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oftenreading · January 2019

Ahh, I remember the days when people laughed and talked about how “no one goes to Canada from the US for health care”, due to the stellar American system.

tempo_n_groove · January 2019

oftenreading said:

Ahh, I remember the days when people laughed and talked about how “no one goes to Canada from the US for health care”, due to the stellar American system.

This would be a rally cry for a bunch of people but unfortunately Paul is bat shit crazy so no one will be yelling that.

jeffbr · January 2019

Yeah, funny how things change. I still wonder why he decided that paying 100% out of pocket in a foreign country was a better plan than using his Cadillac Congressional insurance policy to get it done at home. Maybe this Canadian doctor is really good at minimizing scarring, and Rand has been worrying about bikini season.

rgambs · January 2019

It's just a hernia is the thing, that's a very, very...very routine surgery!

Halifax2TheMax · January 2019

Meltdown99 said:

U.S. Senator Rand Paul to travel to Canada for hernia surgery after neighbour's attack

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sen-rand-paul-scheduled-to-have-hernia-surgery-in-canada?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2dpzFFh720fGNcvpjO7hwzoUqIyt0edzsc5Qo3yLSv8pWJHDzxlTZ0mZU#Echobox=1547490860

Interesting. Just a guess here, but there is a private hernia clinic near Toronto that sees US patients. I know this because a Teacher I worked with had his hernia surgery there and is suppose to be top notch in repairing a hernia and he was surprised that so many Americans were there. Still interesting.

A Paul spokeswoman didn’t immediately explain why Paul is having the surgery in Canada, where medical care is publicly funded and universally provided. Paul touts private-market approaches for U.S. health care problems.

Maybe Randy Paul assumes the Deep State can’t reach into Canada?

Meltdown99 · January 2019

Rand Paul to have hernia surgery in Canada

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425222-rand-paul-to-have-surgery-in-canada

His hernia procedure is likely to cost between $5,000 and $8,000, the newspaper reported, citing court documents.

The hospital where Paul will be treated, the Shouldice Hernia Hospital, is "the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias," according to its website.

It's a private hospital/clinic.

Halifax2TheMax · January 2019

Meltdown99 said:

Rand Paul to have hernia surgery in Canada

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425222-rand-paul-to-have-surgery-in-canada

His hernia procedure is likely to cost between $5,000 and $8,000, the newspaper reported, citing court documents.

The hospital where Paul will be treated, the Shouldice Hernia Hospital, is "the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias," according to its website.

It's a private hospital/clinic.

Yea, we ShouldICE and not let his stupid ass back into the country. Oh Canada, he’ll soon be Treadue’s problem.

Meltdown99 · January 2019

Halifax2TheMax said:

Meltdown99 said:

Rand Paul to have hernia surgery in Canada

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425222-rand-paul-to-have-surgery-in-canada

His hernia procedure is likely to cost between $5,000 and $8,000, the newspaper reported, citing court documents.

The hospital where Paul will be treated, the Shouldice Hernia Hospital, is "the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias," according to its website.

It's a private hospital/clinic.

Yea, we ShouldICE and not let his stupid ass back into the country. Oh Canada, he’ll soon be Treadue’s problem.

lol

mace1229 · January 2019

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

Gern Blansten · January 2019

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

cincybearcat · January 2019

He should stay in Canada

mace1229 · January 2019

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive.
Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.

Gern Blansten · January 2019

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive.
Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.

My deductible is $15,000. If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it. It's only a 6 hour drive for me.

mace1229 · January 2019

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive.
Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.

My deductible is $15,000. If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it. It's only a 6 hour drive for me.

Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.

Gern Blansten · January 2019

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive.
Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.

My deductible is $15,000. If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it. It's only a 6 hour drive for me.

Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.

We pay $1,400/month for four of us. We're relatively healthy so I like the higher deductible.

I was going to ask about your horrible coverage if it would be cheaper for you here. No way Paul is going to Canada for a "well known" doctor....it's a fucking hernia. I could probably fix one myself.

mace1229 · January 2019

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive.
Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.

My deductible is $15,000. If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it. It's only a 6 hour drive for me.

Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.

We pay $1,400/month for four of us. We're relatively healthy so I like the higher deductible.

I was going to ask about your horrible coverage if it would be cheaper for you here. No way Paul is going to Canada for a "well known" doctor....it's a fucking hernia. I could probably fix one myself.

For what we pay all medical expenses should be covered. I don't have a choice in our plan, my employer picks it. They pay about $1000/month and it is about $800 out of pocket for me for the premiums.
A regular dr visit is $30, urgent care is $50, specialist is $100 (which my wife has to go to most of the time), and ER is $200. It can add up fast, we spent $300 over the Christmas break on urgent care. Each of our 2 kids got a sinus infection twice, my wife and I each got it once while traveling. Meds is what makes me really mad. About half the time we don;t use insurance because the "uninsured" or cash price is cheaper than our copay on many prescriptions, which are often $45 or more. Then if they send something off to the lab to test for strep or something else it usually comes to about $100.
A bad month when a few of us get sick like we did, we can spent $800 on copays and meds on top of the $1800 premium for that month. And that isnt anything major, just dr visits for the flu and stuff like that. That is basically what happened in December.
My biggest complain is how expensive monthly premiums are.

oftenreading · January 2019

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.

He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US

I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive.
Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.

My deductible is $15,000. If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it. It's only a 6 hour drive for me.

Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.

We pay $1,400/month for four of us. We're relatively healthy so I like the higher deductible.

I was going to ask about your horrible coverage if it would be cheaper for you here. No way Paul is going to Canada for a "well known" doctor....it's a fucking hernia. I could probably fix one myself.

Any surgical procedure can be problematic if he has other health issues that complicate it. There may be more to it than a straightforward hernia repair.

That clinic advertises that they use a different surgical technique than typical, and that they claim has a lower risk of long term side effects. I don’t know why it wouldn’t be available in the US, but there you go.

Meltdown99 · January 2019

I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there. He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.

cincybearcat · January 2019

Meltdown99 said:

I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there. He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.

This seems like one of those commercials (at&t maybe?)...

They are “one of the clinics” hahahaha

CM189191 · January 2019

weird...health care is expensive...who knew?

How does your health care expenditure compare to your budgets for food, car or home?

For example, if I were to ballpark annual costs :

Health care insurance, Rx, and appointment co-pays : $2500 per year
Car gas & maintenance : $3500
Mortgage, assn dues, & home maintenance : $20000
Grocery/food : $10000
Student loans : paid off
Pearl Jam concerts, merch & travel : $priceless

This is really rough napkin math. But health care isn't so expensive for me when compared to other 'essentials'.

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