BETO for PRESIDENT!
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 The only reason I would vote for him is to get him out of TX politics, lol. Even better would be if Hillary was running against himfoodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards high Post edited by PJPOWER on0 Post edited by PJPOWER on0
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 And this is why you don’t announce your candidacy a year and 11 months out from the election.foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards high09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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            foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.Post edited by mickeyrat on_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.0
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 I agree. Wanted to know where dude I dont recall ever seeing before chooses to get his/her info....mrussel1 said:
 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.
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 Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
 you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
 memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
 another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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 Yeah it kinda matters. It was a state election, so $ coming from out of state is not great. But that’s what elections have become.mrussel1 said:
 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.
 Surely you can see that?hippiemom = goodness0
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 Maybe it's not ideal, but it's in every state. Making it out like it's a Beto thing is ridiculous. Do you consider financial support from the DNC out of state money? What about the RNC? Because I guarantee they helped Cruz as much as Beto.cincybearcat said:
 Yeah it kinda matters. It was a state election, so $ coming from out of state is not great. But that’s what elections have become.mrussel1 said:
 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.
 Surely you can see that?
 Come to think of it, I don't give a shit that it's US money from out of state. These are federal offices. Are just making up goal posts as we go along?0
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            mrussel1 said:
 Maybe it's not ideal, but it's in every state. Making it out like it's a Beto thing is ridiculous. Do you consider financial support from the DNC out of state money? What about the RNC? Because I guarantee they helped Cruz as much as Beto.cincybearcat said:
 Yeah it kinda matters. It was a state election, so $ coming from out of state is not great. But that’s what elections have become.mrussel1 said:
 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.
 Surely you can see that?
 Come to think of it, I don't give a shit that it's US money from out of state. These are federal offices. Are just making up goal posts as we go along?As I understand it , he declined dnc money as well as pac and corporate money.so whats left? individual citizens...._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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 you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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 If that's true, maybe he could have beat Cruz with more money.mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:
 Maybe it's not ideal, but it's in every state. Making it out like it's a Beto thing is ridiculous. Do you consider financial support from the DNC out of state money? What about the RNC? Because I guarantee they helped Cruz as much as Beto.cincybearcat said:
 Yeah it kinda matters. It was a state election, so $ coming from out of state is not great. But that’s what elections have become.mrussel1 said:
 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.
 Surely you can see that?
 Come to think of it, I don't give a shit that it's US money from out of state. These are federal offices. Are just making up goal posts as we go along?As I understand it , he declined dnc money as well as pac and corporate money.so whats left? individual citizens....0
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            all this talk about beto to me just seems like anti-trump desperation.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 It’s definitely not ideal and it’s where our politics are today. So I wasn’t saying him getting that $ was bad, it is what it is. But it does highlight the issue with our politics. And perhaps campaign finance reform should really eliminate $ from out of state donors for local or state positions...and being the elected Senator from a State is a state position in the federal government.mrussel1 said:
 Maybe it's not ideal, but it's in every state. Making it out like it's a Beto thing is ridiculous. Do you consider financial support from the DNC out of state money? What about the RNC? Because I guarantee they helped Cruz as much as Beto.cincybearcat said:
 Yeah it kinda matters. It was a state election, so $ coming from out of state is not great. But that’s what elections have become.mrussel1 said:
 Why does it even matter if x% came from out of state? That's neither illegal or immoral if they didn't violate campaign finance laws. And if there was fraud in TX, why is that more Beto's fault than Cruz, or the governor, or the secy' of state? Geez, I'm not even a Beto fan but if this is the best that the Right has circulating on 4Chan, then Beto is in good shape.mickeyrat said:foodshop65 said:wow, so a guy who is irish pretending to be latino is okay. fleeing from a dui/accident is okay. 90% of his funds came from outside of the state. there were numerous stories of voter fraud in the state. i see you are setting your standards highpretending to be latino? dui/accident? Adjudicated , no?funding. where is your source for that assertion? who were his donors?same for the fraud. source it.
 Surely you can see that?
 Come to think of it, I don't give a shit that it's US money from out of state. These are federal offices. Are just making up goal posts as we go along?
 It just got me thinking about this and it bothers me.hippiemom = goodness0
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 I don't agree. When you think about potential candidates, they tend to be older (Biden, Bernie) and/or women.* I think Beto is the most Obama-like candidate out there. Fresh face. Maybe less-than-ideal experience (but that's a good thing since there's less to criticize him on). Positive. Energetic. Smart.HughFreakingDillon said:all this talk about beto to me just seems like anti-trump desperation.
 Is he the most qualified? Maybe not. But that's never what it's been about. I think if Mitt Romney was sitting in office for his second term, and "Trump-Derangement Syndrome" wasn't a thing, Beto would still have the same momentum.
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 Experience is out the door. The GOP can't use that excuse against any candidate after the tRump debacle.OnWis97 said:
 I don't agree. When you think about potential candidates, they tend to be older (Biden, Bernie) and/or women.* I think Beto is the most Obama-like candidate out there. Fresh face. Maybe less-than-ideal experience (but that's a good thing since there's less to criticism him on). Positive. Energetic. Smart.HughFreakingDillon said:all this talk about beto to me just seems like anti-trump desperation.
 Is he the most qualified? Maybe not. But that's never what it's been about. I think if Mitt Romney was sitting in office for his second term, and "Trump-Derangement Syndrome" wasn't a thing, Beto would still have the same momentum.
 *I don't think a woman can beat Trump.
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 Or ethics... They've lost all the higher ground on presidential character. It's an amazing turn of events.Gern Blansten said:
 Experience is out the door. The GOP can't use that excuse against any candidate after the tRump debacle.OnWis97 said:
 I don't agree. When you think about potential candidates, they tend to be older (Biden, Bernie) and/or women.* I think Beto is the most Obama-like candidate out there. Fresh face. Maybe less-than-ideal experience (but that's a good thing since there's less to criticism him on). Positive. Energetic. Smart.HughFreakingDillon said:all this talk about beto to me just seems like anti-trump desperation.
 Is he the most qualified? Maybe not. But that's never what it's been about. I think if Mitt Romney was sitting in office for his second term, and "Trump-Derangement Syndrome" wasn't a thing, Beto would still have the same momentum.
 *I don't think a woman can beat Trump.0
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            El Beto for Presidento!!!!!
 ”Presidento” not a real Mexican word? That’s okay, Beto is not a real Mexican!
 Campaign slogan: “Beto, por que carajo no!”Post edited by PJPOWER on0
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 So no Hispanics for president? I can get behind that. I don't want none of those eye-talians either. And no fucking pope-lovers either.PJPOWER said:El Beto for Presidento!!!!!
 ”Presidento” not a real Mexican word? That’s okay, Beto is not a real Mexican!
 Campaign slogan: “Beto, por que carajo no!”0
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 why do people keep running with this "fake mexican" shit? Wasn't he given that nickname by someone else down the line? I don't believe he's ever claimed to be hispanic or anything other than he actually is.PJPOWER said:El Beto for Presidento!!!!!
 ”Presidento” not a real Mexican word? That’s okay, Beto is not a real Mexican!
 Campaign slogan: “Beto, por que carajo no!”Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 More so due to the idiots that are voting for him because they think he is (I’ve personally talked to one or two) I don’t think he has ever claimed to be.HughFreakingDillon said:
 why do people keep running with this "fake mexican" shit? Wasn't he given that nickname by someone else down the line? I don't believe he's ever claimed to be hispanic or anything other than he actually is.PJPOWER said:El Beto for Presidento!!!!!
 ”Presidento” not a real Mexican word? That’s okay, Beto is not a real Mexican!
 Campaign slogan: “Beto, por que carajo no!”0
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            I would personally vote for him for the primaries because of the campaign slogans alone; “Up with Beto, down with Cheeto” and so on, lol0
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