What the fans want when it comes to the xmas/holiday single

my_wave
my_wave clearwater, FL Posts: 358
edited December 2018 in The Porch
If this wasn't already decided, and we had the option to continue the xmas/holiday single by voting, what would you say?...


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What the fans want when it comes to the xmas/holiday single 74 votes

Yes
82%
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No
17%
E.Krhinomagicvaggar99Gibsonon2legsPA JammerPB11041brainofeHesCalledDyerTiz10mpar17aurelgugusPJ_Soul 13 votes
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  • J C
    J C Posts: 5
    Living in Australia, the singles were the only reason I paid for a membership. The shirts never fit and the band doesn't hit WA enough to justify priority access to tickets. A bit of a shame but al things must end I suppose. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,930
    Yes
    I think the issue isn’t what the fans wanted. Everyone wanted a single (despite varying expectations). What people complained about is the delays. But the real issue is that the band decided they didn’t want to do it anymore. Maybe it’s because of the complaints. But the issue isn’t lack of interest on our end. 
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    What I would really hope.
    #1. It hasn't been a Christmas single in some time, per notifications from the band and Ten Club. The fans need to stop calling it as such.

    #2. With that said:

    $20/$30 Int.
    All members get, upon their renewal, a 7" record, advance ticket sales for any shows, forum posting, Ten Club Radio and the usual exclusive contests/items/etc.

    Basically, the same as it is now, but make it a truly annual single and have it sent out with the renewal.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    Tim Simmons said:
    I think the issue isn’t what the fans wanted. Everyone wanted a single (despite varying expectations). What people complained about is the delays. But the real issue is that the band decided they didn’t want to do it anymore. Maybe it’s because of the complaints. But the issue isn’t lack of interest on our end. 

    Exactly. There used to be updates about delays with production equipment or whatever the reasons were.

    Now? Nothing.

    But with the vaults coming out like clockwork these past few years, I suppose the writing was on the wall.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    No
    Tim Simmons said:
    I think the issue isn’t what the fans wanted. Everyone wanted a single (despite varying expectations). What people complained about is the delays. But the real issue is that the band decided they didn’t want to do it anymore. Maybe it’s because of the complaints. But the issue isn’t lack of interest on our end. 
    That’s a great way to put it, Tim! Always the voice of reason. I voted no but that’s based on their recent practice of being two years late. If they could’ve delivered on time I’d have been more than happy to continue it.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    Yes
    They could delay it five years if they feel they need to. The delays haven't been a problem for me.

    It's tenclubs inability/arrogance when it comes to communication about it to us.

    "If we don't keep them updated and being straightforward, there is no delay" or whatever their motto is.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    I'll be honest, the delay IS a problem if you paid for it in advance. The situation is still shitty, even now. I hope they deliver what they have to before 2019 ends, and call it a day with this thing, because there's no sense in continuing it if there's no interest (from them). They are not a new band that needs support, they don't need us to pay them in advance for anything.
    A given year they feel like doing a single? Good.
    A given year they don't feel like it? Good, tell us in advance and change the membership fee accordingly.
    That's how it should've always been.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,020
    No
    I like the single but I voted no.  No single means less complaining here which is a good thing.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,020
    No
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    They could delay it five years if they feel they need to. The delays haven't been a problem for me.

    It's tenclubs inability/arrogance when it comes to communication about it to us.

    "If we don't keep them updated and being straightforward, there is no delay" or whatever their motto is.
    I’m pretty sure they’ve responded to people via email and stated that they’re working on it.  People have posted those emails here.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    on2legs said:
    I like the single but I voted no.  No single means less complaining here which is a good thing.  
    C'mon, its the Internet... It's where people come to complain. There will never be less of that.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,020
    No
    MedozK said:
    on2legs said:
    I like the single but I voted no.  No single means less complaining here which is a good thing.  
    C'mon, its the Internet... It's where people come to complain. There will never be less of that.
    True.  But at least it will shift to complaints about other topics.  So there’s that I guess. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    on2legs said:
    MedozK said:
    on2legs said:
    I like the single but I voted no.  No single means less complaining here which is a good thing.  
    C'mon, its the Internet... It's where people come to complain. There will never be less of that.
    True.  But at least it will shift to complaints about other topics.  So there’s that I guess. 
    I'm going to complain that there is no Lego person in your avatar...
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    Yes
    One of the only reasons I pay .. Bloody out of order imo ... They have a whole year tt to sort us out one single... I think this will be the last time... 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,930
    Yes
    on2legs said:
     No single means less complaining
    lol
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,020
    No
    tempo_n_groove said:
    on2legs said:
    MedozK said:
    on2legs said:
    I like the single but I voted no.  No single means less complaining here which is a good thing.  
    C'mon, its the Internet... It's where people come to complain. There will never be less of that.
    True.  But at least it will shift to complaints about other topics.  So there’s that I guess. 
    I'm going to complain that there is no Lego person in your avatar...
    Lol. 

    Now that’s  a legitmate complaint!
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    Yes
    The single is why I got into the vinyl, they are no longer the crusaders for that cause za that has been obvious for a decade.

      Just put a bside you never relased out and everyone would love it, then complain about it, then request it at every show.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    No
    hrd2imgn said:
    The single is why I got into the vinyl, they are no longer the crusaders for that cause za that has been obvious for a decade.

      Just put a bside you never relased out and everyone would love it, then complain about it, then request it at every show.
    :rofl:
    You know everyone is gonna shit their pants when the 2018 single with a studio version of Of The Earth hits their mailbox.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    HesCalledDyer said:
    hrd2imgn said:
    The single is why I got into the vinyl, they are no longer the crusaders for that cause za that has been obvious for a decade.

      Just put a bside you never relased out and everyone would love it, then complain about it, then request it at every show.
    :rofl:
    You know everyone is gonna shit their pants when the 2018 single with a studio version of Of The Earth hits their mailbox.


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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Yes
    on2legs said:
    I like the single but I voted no.  No single means less complaining here which is a good thing.  
    Not true. I'm still going to "complain", if by "complain" you mean provide consumer feedback to a business that lacks the ability to effectively communicate with their customer base, and fails to deliver on its obligations. This issue with the holiday single is actually not the root issue. It is just symptomatic of the real problem.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    Yes
    I loved the annual single.  It's sad that its coming to an end.  I hope they have something different planned but it feels like they just aren't into doing the work to put anything out.  The bands focus just doesn't seem to be on PJ anymore other than on new merch and a short tour here and there.  Hopefully they are in the studio together making a kick ass new record.  But who knows?  How close are they to finishing a new record?  

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