Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
Hey now....Metallica is already a R&R HoF band that does not sing with Cookie Monster tones.
I don't understand the sentiment that AIC isn't worthy, you can't turn a radio dial without hitting an AIC song.
The latter could be said about a lot of bands. Doesn't mean they all belong in the HOF.
Shouldn't they though? What's a hall of fame for if it doesn't represent the most famous?
Most famous being the key phrase. Again, if we just let everyone in who has radio play or touched stardom for a while, it lessens the significance of the Hall of Fame honor. The Hall itself becomes nothing more than a watered down rolodex of music history. I love AIC, easily my 2nd favorite of the "Seattle sound" bands. Sure they had their day in the sun, but it was brief and really inconsequential in the grand scheme of the history of rock & roll.
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
Hey now....Metallica is already a R&R HoF band that does not sing with Cookie Monster tones.
Love that description
I do love Metallica, but Hetfield personifies the Cookie Monster in later Metallica songs.
I don't understand the sentiment that AIC isn't worthy, you can't turn a radio dial without hitting an AIC song.
The latter could be said about a lot of bands. Doesn't mean they all belong in the HOF.
Shouldn't they though? What's a hall of fame for if it doesn't represent the most famous?
Most famous being the key phrase. Again, if we just let everyone in who has radio play or touched stardom for a while, it lessens the significance of the Hall of Fame honor. The Hall itself becomes nothing more than a watered down rolodex of music history. I love AIC, easily my 2nd favorite of the "Seattle sound" bands. Sure they had their day in the sun, but it was brief and really inconsequential in the grand scheme of the history of rock & roll.
I definitely agree that the Hall should be a little more selective, but they have to keep people coming back to keep the doors open, and they made the idiotic mistake of building in Cleveland so that's no easy task. Roxy Music? For real? They sampled Roxy Music's biggest songs on the local (Canton, OH) station and I didn't recognize any of them. At all. No way they belong, but there's room for excluding them and still allowing AIC.
Funny you should post this the day after I revisited Facelift and Dirt on Tidal. I thank Rick Beato for making me decide to listen to them because he did a special on what makes the song Dirt great. The first half of Facelift is awesome, but then it's pretty hit or miss with some of the songs seriously sounding like they belong on a GNR album. Dirt is phenomenal. Unplugged was probably my favorite of all the ones released through the MTV series. Amazing album. I'm with a few others on here and think AIC was the biggest influence for rock that carried over to the early '00s.
They also released some good soundtrack songs and have a pretty deep catalog for a band that really only had about 7 years together. They deserve it. It's a disgrace that both Soundgarden and AIC aren't in yet. They were both around and established well before PJ and Nirvana hit the scene.
Edit: I should also add that they're still around and making great music, arguably more relevant and impactful than PJ. That alone should boost their chances. What they did with Layne was groundbreaking and how they've reestablished themselves with Duvall in the last decade is tremendous.
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
When I think metal, AIC is the last band that comes to mind. Maybe our definition of metal may be different?
To be honest this topic has peaked my interest with influences.
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Ah oh, I thought Mad Season was a television show. Damn, I guess getting old has it's down sides after all.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
When I think metal, AIC is the last band that comes to mind. Maybe our definition of metal may be different?
To be honest this topic has peaked my interest with influences.
That's because of the 80's bands that overtook the "heavy metal" genre with thrashing and Cookie Monster vocals. Sabbath and Deep Purple were the original heavy metal bands. People now associate speed with metal and metal with speed, but the original heavy metal sound was slower and...heavier instead of just louder. Modern thrash metal isn't heavy at all, it doesn't weigh you down, it bounces you up.
AIC, the originals, they can make your very soul feel heavy in a way that Metallica has never even come close to touching.
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
When I think metal, AIC is the last band that comes to mind. Maybe our definition of metal may be different?
To be honest this topic has peaked my interest with influences.
That's because of the 80's bands that overtook the "heavy metal" genre with thrashing and Cookie Monster vocals. Sabbath and Deep Purple were the original heavy metal bands. People now associate speed with metal and metal with speed, but the original heavy metal sound was slower and...heavier instead of just louder. Modern thrash metal isn't heavy at all, it doesn't weigh you down, it bounces you up.
AIC, the originals, they can make your very soul feel heavy in a way that Metallica has never even come close to touching.
I’m surprised Tool hasn’t been nominated and inducted.
The writers at Rollingstone have no idea who they are plus they only vote people in that they know will show up. Hell Kiss almost didn't come to their inauguration so I don't think TOOL would even come.
I’m surprised Tool hasn’t been nominated and inducted.
The writers at Rollingstone have no idea who they are plus they only vote people in that they know will show up. Hell Kiss almost didn't come to their inauguration so I don't think TOOL would even come.
They’re one of the biggest bands around. I’m sure RS knows who they are and I think they’d show up. They’re more rockstar than their image often informs.
Dang, I feel like half of these aren't snubs at all. I also feel like Doobie Brothers should be near the top of this list. I'm sure the Michael McDonald years are counting against them a bit, but the early Tom Johnston Doobie Brothers albums are fantastic.
I’m surprised Tool hasn’t been nominated and inducted.
The writers at Rollingstone have no idea who they are plus they only vote people in that they know will show up. Hell Kiss almost didn't come to their inauguration so I don't think TOOL would even come.
They’re one of the biggest bands around. I’m sure RS knows who they are and I think they’d show up. They’re more rockstar than their image often informs.
You don't know TOOL.
One of the biggest bands around hasn't made an album in 12 years...
Dang, I feel like half of these aren't snubs at all. I also feel like Doobie Brothers should be near the top of this list. I'm sure the Michael McDonald years are counting against them a bit, but the early Tom Johnston Doobie Brothers albums are fantastic.
I definitely agree that Depeche Mode, Iron Maiden, Pixies, Devo and NIN should be in. Others on that list, probably. I will also admit that I am not as familiar with all of them as I should be.
I also think Styx and Kansas are more deserving than some of those as well.
My death metal loving husband went through a Styx phase for a while. I truly wanted to rip my ears off of my head. One of his people stated that Styx was a big influence. (I cannot recall who that would be, but Vinnie in Pantera might be the one.) At any rate, no thank you.
It seems to me that RROH has an m.o. They usually find a big band to nominate, to be the headliners of the event. Then maybe a band from another genre. Then bands that had medium level success. I consider PJ/Nirvana to be the big guns of the Seattle era. Soundgarden/AiC weren't quite as big. I fully expect Soundgarden/AiC to get in one day. It's only that they weren't one of those big guns that gets in on the first ballot.
I'm actually surprised it took this long to induct Def Leppard. They were huge in the day. Sold god knows how many copies of Pyromania, Hysteria, and Adrenalize.
I’m surprised Tool hasn’t been nominated and inducted.
The writers at Rollingstone have no idea who they are plus they only vote people in that they know will show up. Hell Kiss almost didn't come to their inauguration so I don't think TOOL would even come.
They’re one of the biggest bands around. I’m sure RS knows who they are and I think they’d show up. They’re more rockstar than their image often informs.
You don't know TOOL.
One of the biggest bands around hasn't made an album in 12 years...
They don't stream their albums for a reason.
What’s that mean? Yeah, I don’t know them personally but I’ve gleened about as much info on them through the years as a fan could. Maynard and his vineyard is as rock star cliche as it gets, Danny cruises around in a Lambo, and Adam Jones has played the national anthem at big wrestling shows. I’m not saying they some cheesy over the top asshats, but they definitely take advantage of their success.
Hasnt made an album in 12 years and would sell out a tour tomorrow. When their album does come out it will be one of the biggest and best releases of the year.
I don’t get what streaming or not has to do with it.
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Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
When I think metal, AIC is the last band that comes to mind. Maybe our definition of metal may be different?
To be honest this topic has peaked my interest with influences.
facelift was definitely metal. no question about it. then they became sludgier. I callled it (not claiming I coined it) Sludge Metal.
I’m surprised Tool hasn’t been nominated and inducted.
The writers at Rollingstone have no idea who they are plus they only vote people in that they know will show up. Hell Kiss almost didn't come to their inauguration so I don't think TOOL would even come.
They’re one of the biggest bands around. I’m sure RS knows who they are and I think they’d show up. They’re more rockstar than their image often informs.
You don't know TOOL.
One of the biggest bands around hasn't made an album in 12 years...
They don't stream their albums for a reason.
What’s that mean? Yeah, I don’t know them personally but I’ve gleened about as much info on them through the years as a fan could. Maynard and his vineyard is as rock star cliche as it gets, Danny cruises around in a Lambo, and Adam Jones has played the national anthem at big wrestling shows. I’m not saying they some cheesy over the top asshats, but they definitely take advantage of their success.
Hasnt made an album in 12 years and would sell out a tour tomorrow. When their album does come out it will be one of the biggest and best releases of the year.
I don’t get what streaming or not has to do with it.
They sell out every show they do but that doesn't mean that they'd go to a RRHOF performance.
They didn't stream their albums or let them be used in the jukeboxes because they were pretentious.
Ever watch them do interviews with people that they can see that they don't know TOOL very well? Brutal. Maynard has always been a jerk to them and it's fun to watch.
They aren't one for the masses types. This is why I don't think they'd ever do it.
Lastly RS surely knows who they are but they could care less to put them in.
Maybe they wouldn’t. None of us really know. I just don’t think they’re be as against that sorta thing as they once were. I think a lot of their anti mainstream tendencies are overblown when you look at some of the stuff they’ve taken a part in over the last decade or so. Meet and greets, radio edits for all the singles from the last album, and more willingness to do interviews. I think it would be a hard thing for MJK’s ego to turn down.
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Roxy Music? For real? They sampled Roxy Music's biggest songs on the local (Canton, OH) station and I didn't recognize any of them. At all.
No way they belong, but there's room for excluding them and still allowing AIC.
They also released some good soundtrack songs and have a pretty deep catalog for a band that really only had about 7 years together. They deserve it. It's a disgrace that both Soundgarden and AIC aren't in yet. They were both around and established well before PJ and Nirvana hit the scene.
Edit: I should also add that they're still around and making great music, arguably more relevant and impactful than PJ. That alone should boost their chances. What they did with Layne was groundbreaking and how they've reestablished themselves with Duvall in the last decade is tremendous.
To be honest this topic has peaked my interest with influences.
Sabbath and Deep Purple were the original heavy metal bands. People now associate speed with metal and metal with speed, but the original heavy metal sound was slower and...heavier instead of just louder. Modern thrash metal isn't heavy at all, it doesn't weigh you down, it bounces you up.
AIC, the originals, they can make your very soul feel heavy in a way that Metallica has never even come close to touching.
Have Faith No More been inducted?
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2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
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2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
I also feel like Doobie Brothers should be near the top of this list. I'm sure the Michael McDonald years are counting against them a bit, but the early Tom Johnston Doobie Brothers albums are fantastic.
One of the biggest bands around hasn't made an album in 12 years...
They don't stream their albums for a reason.
My death metal loving husband went through a Styx phase for a while. I truly wanted to rip my ears off of my head. One of his people stated that Styx was a big influence. (I cannot recall who that would be, but Vinnie in Pantera might be the one.) At any rate, no thank you.
2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
What’s that mean? Yeah, I don’t know them personally but I’ve gleened about as much info on them through the years as a fan could. Maynard and his vineyard is as rock star cliche as it gets, Danny cruises around in a Lambo, and Adam Jones has played the national anthem at big wrestling shows. I’m not saying they some cheesy over the top asshats, but they definitely take advantage of their success.
Hasnt made an album in 12 years and would sell out a tour tomorrow. When their album does come out it will be one of the biggest and best releases of the year.
I don’t get what streaming or not has to do with it.
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AIC simply because of the unplugged album. That baby got me through some strange trips in my early years.
They didn't stream their albums or let them be used in the jukeboxes because they were pretentious.
Ever watch them do interviews with people that they can see that they don't know TOOL very well? Brutal. Maynard has always been a jerk to them and it's fun to watch.
They aren't one for the masses types. This is why I don't think they'd ever do it.
Lastly RS surely knows who they are but they could care less to put them in.
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do interviews. I think it would be a hard thing for MJK’s ego to turn down.