AIC's Dirt is a masterpiece, but was it groundbreaking? I find Mad Season's Above to be so sonically superior. And Jerry's solo stuff is great, but it's basically AIC without Layne.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
AIC should be in of course. I don't think Mad Season should ever be in. I didn't even know that Cantrell had a solo career...
his first solo record was Boggy Depot (he opened for Metallica on this tour). His second was a double album called Degredation Trip. He also has a couple songs on soundtracks/comp's which are good.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
AIC's Dirt is a masterpiece, but was it groundbreaking? I find Mad Season's Above to be so sonically superior. And Jerry's solo stuff is great, but it's basically AIC without Layne.
It's a hall of fame though, not a hall of sonic superiority. I love Mad Season, but they don't have nearly the clout to make it in for another 10-15 years until every possible pre-90's band is in.
AIC's Dirt is a masterpiece, but was it groundbreaking? I find Mad Season's Above to be so sonically superior. And Jerry's solo stuff is great, but it's basically AIC without Layne.
It's a hall of fame though, not a hall of sonic superiority. I love Mad Season, but they don't have nearly the clout to make it in for another 10-15 years until every possible pre-90's band is in.
Doobie Brothers need their spot!
you don't have to have more than one record to get in. it just has to be an incredible one and leave a mark. I think it did.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
It could take you a couple weeks of walking around New York City to find someone who knows who Mad Season or Jerry Cantrell are. No way they deserve to be in.
Alice in Chains is borderline. It depends on whether the Hall of Fame is for the elite (which it should be). Obviously every band can't be the Beatles or Stones, but I just don't think Alice in Chains should make it.
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None of them, although I think that the first two records and the EP by AIC are brilliant. Just not enough, IMO. Mad Season and Cantrell solo can be things you like but they will never in a million years get R&R HoF consideration, nor should they IMO.
AIC - I certainly think they were groundbreaking, those harmonies man, listen to Down In A Hole and tell me that isn't one of those most beautifully put together songs, they had something very special. As much as I love Dirt, I think Jar Of Flies and their Unplugged show them at their best.
Also, I think they were the most influential Seattle band - all of the post grunge bands sounded most like them, compared to the other big four bands.
AIC is a lock for eventual induction. Short of the initial explosion of Teen Spirit, they’re far an away the most influential band of the early 90s.
Mad Season simply doesn’t have the resume to get in. One great album, but it’s barely a blip on the radar. They won’t get in and they shouldn’t get in.
AIC is a lock for eventual induction. Short of the initial explosion of Teen Spirit, they’re far an away the most influential band of the early 90s.
Mad Season simply doesn’t have the resume to get in. One great album, but it’s barely a blip on the radar. They won’t get in and they shouldn’t get in.
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
AIC is a lock for eventual induction. Short of the initial explosion of Teen Spirit, they’re far an away the most influential band of the early 90s.
Mad Season simply doesn’t have the resume to get in. One great album, but it’s barely a blip on the radar. They won’t get in and they shouldn’t get in.
I personally don't think "clout" or being known should be of consideration. look back historically, how many inductees do you know? I know very few of the early ones. I think it should be artistic merit and influence. But maybe it isn't.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
I always thought Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer did that? Oh and Pantera too...
Nah, AIC reminded the world that heavy music doesn't have to be fast thrashing stuff with Cookie Monster vocals like the bands you mentioned. They took it back to the roots with a sound more reminiscent of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.. A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
Sadly, if Soundgarden isn't getting in, then neither is AIC.
Both will get in.
I'd like to think you're right but I'm not sure. Bands like NIN and Smashing Pumpkins were (arguably) bigger and haven't made it. Smashing Pumpkins have yet to be nominated. Even STP got more radio play and you have to wonder if they'll get in.
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I love Mad Season, but they don't have nearly the clout to make it in for another 10-15 years until every possible pre-90's band is in.
Doobie Brothers need their spot!
-EV 8/14/93
It could take you a couple weeks of walking around New York City to find someone who knows who Mad Season or Jerry Cantrell are. No way they deserve to be in.
Alice in Chains is borderline. It depends on whether the Hall of Fame is for the elite (which it should be). Obviously every band can't be the Beatles or Stones, but I just don't think Alice in Chains should make it.
Mad Season and Cantrell solo can be things you like but they will never in a million years get R&R HoF consideration, nor should they IMO.
Also, I think they were the most influential Seattle band - all of the post grunge bands sounded most like them, compared to the other big four bands.
Mad Season simply doesn’t have the resume to get in. One great album, but it’s barely a blip on the radar. They won’t get in and they shouldn’t get in.
AIC most influential? No way...
You know this is a debate for another thread.
Alice in Chains. They pretty much one-handedly inspired heavy music for the next 20 years. The entire 2000's metal sound (Disturbed, Godsmack, Staind, etc) was ripping off Alice in Chains, and those were huge bands. As far as Alice in Chains themselves, tune in any rock station for an hour and you are likely to hear them.
Mad Season and Jerry solo - I absolutely love Mad Season, and Jerry's cool. Not enough clout to induct those guys. I think ACE FREHLEY gets inducted as a solo artist before Cantrell.
-EV 8/14/93
A much more mature and artistic sound than the thrash stuff that spawned modern metal.
Bands like NIN and Smashing Pumpkins were (arguably) bigger and haven't made it. Smashing Pumpkins have yet to be nominated. Even STP got more radio play and you have to wonder if they'll get in.