Theresa May to face vote of no confidence from Tory MPs

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Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
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Theresa May to face vote of no confidence from Tory MPs

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46535739
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    Why does it seem like this was supposed to happen today? Where are the results? It's now passed dinner time in the UK. Are they burning the midnight oil on this one or what? I'm DYING to find out how this vote goes.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why does it seem like this was supposed to happen today? Where are the results? It's now passed dinner time in the UK. Are they burning the midnight oil on this one or what? I'm DYING to find out how this vote goes.
    The results will be available in an hour or so.  It was 49 MPs who pushed for the vote.  May's people seem nervous, according to reports.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I also read if she only wins slightly, she likely will resign tonight...
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    She wins the confidence vote.  It is now up to her to navigate Brexit somehow...good luck to her.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    Oh. She survived the vote. :neutral:
    Man, I still can't believe the UK voted yes on Brexit, lol.


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    It's a shambles. And a con


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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I am not sure wtf is going on.
    What does the UK want from the EU?
    What does the EU want from the UK?
    Why the roadblock?
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    The UK voters were lied to and voted based upon those non facts . I.e the NHS.  And now the majority  of people if given the facts voted again would  remain. It's all a load of bullshit that will Fuck us up 


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Brexit: Theresa May's deal is voted down in historic Commons defeat
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46885828?ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=facebook&ocid=socialflow_facebook
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    It really is a fascinating and somewhat horrifying situation.

    European media reacts to the news of the deal's defeat:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/16/europe-media-reacts-may-defeat-brexit-deal

    Interesting perspectives from those on the "other" side of the EU issue. 

    And I liked the quote from a Greek paper:

    There is astonishment that a democracy as old as Britain has got itself into such a dead end,” commentator Pantelis Kapsis said. “It’s the sort of mess Greece would get itself into.”
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,404
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    It sounds like they leave March 29th, deal or no deal...
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    They narrowly voted to leave, with a fair amount of opposition. And they are learning that breaking ties with the EU has major costs and inconveniences, which they do not want to bear. Some of this is a cake-and-eat-it-too situation. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    It sounds like they leave March 29th, deal or no deal...
    The update to that is that the deal mentioned  has been rejected, thus leaving no roadmap for the exit, which as you say is almost certainly going ahead. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    It sounds like they leave March 29th, deal or no deal...
    The update to that is that the deal mentioned  has been rejected, thus leaving no roadmap for the exit, which as you say is almost certainly going ahead. 
    Yes, they rejected the deal yesterday.  So it looks like they leave with no deal?  Is that correct?  So, what I read is many said a bad deal is better than no deal.  I will say this, interesting times we are living in these.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    It sounds like they leave March 29th, deal or no deal...
    The update to that is that the deal mentioned  has been rejected, thus leaving no roadmap for the exit, which as you say is almost certainly going ahead. 
    Yes, they rejected the deal yesterday.  So it looks like they leave with no deal?  Is that correct?  So, what I read is many said a bad deal is better than no deal.  I will say this, interesting times we are living in these.
    Leave with no deal unless there is a miracle. 

    It seems that May is expected to survive a no confidence vote, though I don’t fully understand why. Her plan was resoundingly defeated but her MPs are not expected to vote against her.  
     
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

    It sounds like they leave March 29th, deal or no deal...
    The update to that is that the deal mentioned  has been rejected, thus leaving no roadmap for the exit, which as you say is almost certainly going ahead. 
    Yes, they rejected the deal yesterday.  So it looks like they leave with no deal?  Is that correct?  So, what I read is many said a bad deal is better than no deal.  I will say this, interesting times we are living in these.
    Leave with no deal unless there is a miracle. 

    It seems that May is expected to survive a no confidence vote, though I don’t fully understand why. Her plan was resoundingly defeated but her MPs are not expected to vote against her.  
     
    It does make you wonder how she has not lost the confidence of the house.  The only thing I can figure is the UK doesn't want to leave the EU while there is political turmoil as well.  A no-confidence vote would lead to May resigning, the cons having to pick a new leader and if none of the other parties can form a government, then an election...all this and Brexit.  I hope it works out for everyone involved.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,404
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    They narrowly voted to leave, with a fair amount of opposition. And they are learning that breaking ties with the EU has major costs and inconveniences, which they do not want to bear. Some of this is a cake-and-eat-it-too situation. 
    Obviously if it narrowly passed then of course there is opposition.

    I was wondering why they voted for it and now they have a problem actually executing it?

    Either an extremely poor not thought out plan, some serious politics being played or both?

    Tell you the truth I read very little on this but it seems absolutely fascinating.

    I guess I'll school myself on it more.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    May survived the no confidence vote.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    They narrowly voted to leave, with a fair amount of opposition. And they are learning that breaking ties with the EU has major costs and inconveniences, which they do not want to bear. Some of this is a cake-and-eat-it-too situation. 
    Obviously if it narrowly passed then of course there is opposition.

    I was wondering why they voted for it and now they have a problem actually executing it?

    Either an extremely poor not thought out plan, some serious politics being played or both?

    Tell you the truth I read very little on this but it seems absolutely fascinating.

    I guess I'll school myself on it more.
    I think it is more to do with the EU.  The EU does not want the UK to get out easily, in a way I think this is sending a message to EU members who might want to leave at some time.  They are leaving March 29th deal or no deal.
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