Theresa May to face vote of no confidence from Tory MPs

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    They narrowly voted to leave, with a fair amount of opposition. And they are learning that breaking ties with the EU has major costs and inconveniences, which they do not want to bear. Some of this is a cake-and-eat-it-too situation. 
    Obviously if it narrowly passed then of course there is opposition.

    I was wondering why they voted for it and now they have a problem actually executing it?

    Either an extremely poor not thought out plan, some serious politics being played or both?

    Tell you the truth I read very little on this but it seems absolutely fascinating.

    I guess I'll school myself on it more.
    I think it is more to do with the EU.  The EU does not want the UK to get out easily, in a way I think this is sending a message to EU members who might want to leave at some time.  They are leaving March 29th deal or no deal.
    That would be my thought on the "political game" angle.  UK is a big time player in the EU as well as Germany and France.  If they decide to leave too the EU will be no more.

    I'm sure there is plenty for all to gain with UK staying in the EU but I'd think that the UK wouldn't have any worries if they left either?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    They narrowly voted to leave, with a fair amount of opposition. And they are learning that breaking ties with the EU has major costs and inconveniences, which they do not want to bear. Some of this is a cake-and-eat-it-too situation. 
    Obviously if it narrowly passed then of course there is opposition.

    I was wondering why they voted for it and now they have a problem actually executing it?

    Either an extremely poor not thought out plan, some serious politics being played or both?

    Tell you the truth I read very little on this but it seems absolutely fascinating.

    I guess I'll school myself on it more.
    I think it is more to do with the EU.  The EU does not want the UK to get out easily, in a way I think this is sending a message to EU members who might want to leave at some time.  They are leaving March 29th deal or no deal.
    That would be my thought on the "political game" angle.  UK is a big time player in the EU as well as Germany and France.  If they decide to leave too the EU will be no more.

    I'm sure there is plenty for all to gain with UK staying in the EU but I'd think that the UK wouldn't have any worries if they left either?
    The UK will be massively affected if they leave, which is what they are finding out now, and why the negotiations have been so difficult. 
     
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here is something I don't understand so maybe someone can bring me up to speed.

    The UK wants/voted themselves out of the EU.

    Now the country can't get what the people actually voted for?

    Am I right about this?
    They narrowly voted to leave, with a fair amount of opposition. And they are learning that breaking ties with the EU has major costs and inconveniences, which they do not want to bear. Some of this is a cake-and-eat-it-too situation. 
    Obviously if it narrowly passed then of course there is opposition.

    I was wondering why they voted for it and now they have a problem actually executing it?

    Either an extremely poor not thought out plan, some serious politics being played or both?

    Tell you the truth I read very little on this but it seems absolutely fascinating.

    I guess I'll school myself on it more.
    There wasn’t much of a plan at all when the vote occurred. It wasn’t expected to pass. Almost everything since has been scrambling to come up with a plan. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    When you had an empire as great as our's do you need plans?

    I hope when PJ tour next they bring fresh food for us.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    When you had an empire as great as our's do you need plans?

    :lol: 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Final Brexit deal vote today. If it doesn't pass, it seems we're looking at a no-deal Brexit. 

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47533666
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    They should just suck it up and have a second referendum. They can call it the "okay you c*nts, this time use your brains" referendum (remember the c-word is acceptable in the UK, lol).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    She lost again.  What will it take for her to realize she is done as PM...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    She's done whether she realizes it or not, I think. And thank goodness, she's terrible.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rw160510
    rw160510 Posts: 1,083
    PJ_Soul said:
    They should just suck it up and have a second referendum. They can call it the "okay you c*nts, this time use your brains" referendum (remember the c-word is acceptable in the UK, lol).
    II would be OK with this. It feels like my country is in free fall being held to ransom by disaster capitalists on one side and teenage socialists on the other. There is no compromise to be had because the nut bars on both fringes are in control of their parties. Corbyn knows that this is his one chance to get elected and so sits on the fence talking bull shit and offering vague pipe dreams of a different way through. I honestly believe that no matter how someone voted 2 years ago nobody voted for the mess we are in. I don't see what would be so undemocratic about a second vote. Christ, May is trying to get a third vote on her deal. It could be a two part question:

    1 do you want to remain or leave?
    2 if leave wins do you want the deal or no deal?

    Maybe not use a c bomb though, it's only kinda acceptable ;)

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    Looks like May will get her deal after-all...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    Bummer. Not even close.

    Second Brexit referendum rejected by British lawmakers



    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBEwTw8wAaI
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    So...this seems to be going well.

    Theresa May dealt Brexit blow as Parliament seizes control


    https://www.cnn.com/uk/live-news/brexit-latest-gbr-intl/index.html
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    She should resign at this point, seriously. And I don't say that lightly.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    UK government hopes to hold fresh Brexit vote on Friday
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/28/ministers-plan-to-hold-third-brexit-vote-on-friday?fbclid=IwAR3nbAuFGaosLUEmEQauvEMUaVCOob2NLJAqUIskNOzMxfRk75gBnYffK6c

    LMFAOF...the referendum was held, now get your shit together and leave.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Still going well...


    MPs reject Theresa May's Brexit deal by 58 votes

    PM says implications of third Commons defeat for her agreement with EU are ‘grave’


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/29/mps-reject-theresa-mays-brexit-deal-third-time

  • rw160510
    rw160510 Posts: 1,083
    So all is good and going swimmingly here in the UK. Honestly. No really.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    rw160510 said:
    So all is good and going swimmingly here in the UK. Honestly. No really.

    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    May resigns today after again failing to convince anyone to vote for her plan 
     
    https://apple.news/AnfGmsibKR4WQ3aSBC6aX7A
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