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 Don't see what one has to do with the other.Ledbetterman10 said:
 There's something that hasn't been explored yet. You're a Patriots fan, and are obsessed in your distain of Trump. Yet Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are all friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Except what you posted about wasn’t cheating as even Theilin acknowledged in the post game presser. Nothing gets more tired than a bunch of whiners because the pats continue to win. Just STFU and play the game, in the NFL, the bastion of integrity.pjhawks said:
 show me one Eagle fan who defended Lane Johnson and said he shouldn't be suspended. we didn't make excuses or use the tired everyone does it like Pats fans have done on multiple occasions when caught cheating. go ahead ill wait while you try to find one...Poncier said:
 Well not everyone can have the integrity of say a Lane Johnson.pjhawks said:
 it's not against the rules but it shows a lack of integrity. of course the Pats have no integrity so it's not surprising.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Waaaaaaaaaa. Theilin even admitted it’s not a violation of the rules and post outburst he sucked. Like a Team has never “faked” an injury before. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.pjhawks said:
 good to see the Pats are up to their dirty tricks again. fake an injury so you can get more time to review a play to challenge. then Bellicheat has the balls to yell at Thelien for complaining to the ref about it. classy organization still.Halifax2TheMax said:Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, pats have a game tomorrow and the playoffs up ahead. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 Good to see the Pats played another tough road game too...oh wait do they ever?
 sure seems like field goal kickers have been worse this year than previous years. I don't know the official stats but sure seems like there have been more missed kicks.
 He can be a fan of his local sports team and dislike the President regardless of whatever past connection members of the organization had with Trump.
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 You're obviously not familiar with Halifax's posts on the Moving Train forum.Poncier said:
 Don't see what one has to do with the other.Ledbetterman10 said:
 There's something that hasn't been explored yet. You're a Patriots fan, and are obsessed in your distain of Trump. Yet Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are all friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Except what you posted about wasn’t cheating as even Theilin acknowledged in the post game presser. Nothing gets more tired than a bunch of whiners because the pats continue to win. Just STFU and play the game, in the NFL, the bastion of integrity.pjhawks said:
 show me one Eagle fan who defended Lane Johnson and said he shouldn't be suspended. we didn't make excuses or use the tired everyone does it like Pats fans have done on multiple occasions when caught cheating. go ahead ill wait while you try to find one...Poncier said:
 Well not everyone can have the integrity of say a Lane Johnson.pjhawks said:
 it's not against the rules but it shows a lack of integrity. of course the Pats have no integrity so it's not surprising.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Waaaaaaaaaa. Theilin even admitted it’s not a violation of the rules and post outburst he sucked. Like a Team has never “faked” an injury before. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.pjhawks said:
 good to see the Pats are up to their dirty tricks again. fake an injury so you can get more time to review a play to challenge. then Bellicheat has the balls to yell at Thelien for complaining to the ref about it. classy organization still.Halifax2TheMax said:Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, pats have a game tomorrow and the playoffs up ahead. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 Good to see the Pats played another tough road game too...oh wait do they ever?
 sure seems like field goal kickers have been worse this year than previous years. I don't know the official stats but sure seems like there have been more missed kicks.
 He can be a fan of his local sports team and dislike the President regardless of whatever past connection members of the organization had with Trump.
 In fairness to him though, and this thread, I should have just posted this comment in one of the many, many Trump threads that Halifax frequents.
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 I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?Ledbetterman10 said:
 There's something that hasn't been explored yet. You're a Patriots fan, and are obsessed in your distain of Trump. Yet Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are all friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Except what you posted about wasn’t cheating as even Theilin acknowledged in the post game presser. Nothing gets more tired than a bunch of whiners because the pats continue to win. Just STFU and play the game, in the NFL, the bastion of integrity.pjhawks said:
 show me one Eagle fan who defended Lane Johnson and said he shouldn't be suspended. we didn't make excuses or use the tired everyone does it like Pats fans have done on multiple occasions when caught cheating. go ahead ill wait while you try to find one...Poncier said:
 Well not everyone can have the integrity of say a Lane Johnson.pjhawks said:
 it's not against the rules but it shows a lack of integrity. of course the Pats have no integrity so it's not surprising.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Waaaaaaaaaa. Theilin even admitted it’s not a violation of the rules and post outburst he sucked. Like a Team has never “faked” an injury before. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.pjhawks said:
 good to see the Pats are up to their dirty tricks again. fake an injury so you can get more time to review a play to challenge. then Bellicheat has the balls to yell at Thelien for complaining to the ref about it. classy organization still.Halifax2TheMax said:Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, pats have a game tomorrow and the playoffs up ahead. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 Good to see the Pats played another tough road game too...oh wait do they ever?
 sure seems like field goal kickers have been worse this year than previous years. I don't know the official stats but sure seems like there have been more missed kicks.
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 I'll respond over in the "Donald Trump" thread so we don't bother anyone just wanting to talk about football.Halifax2TheMax said:
 I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?Ledbetterman10 said:
 There's something that hasn't been explored yet. You're a Patriots fan, and are obsessed in your distain of Trump. Yet Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are all friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Except what you posted about wasn’t cheating as even Theilin acknowledged in the post game presser. Nothing gets more tired than a bunch of whiners because the pats continue to win. Just STFU and play the game, in the NFL, the bastion of integrity.pjhawks said:
 show me one Eagle fan who defended Lane Johnson and said he shouldn't be suspended. we didn't make excuses or use the tired everyone does it like Pats fans have done on multiple occasions when caught cheating. go ahead ill wait while you try to find one...Poncier said:
 Well not everyone can have the integrity of say a Lane Johnson.pjhawks said:
 it's not against the rules but it shows a lack of integrity. of course the Pats have no integrity so it's not surprising.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Waaaaaaaaaa. Theilin even admitted it’s not a violation of the rules and post outburst he sucked. Like a Team has never “faked” an injury before. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.pjhawks said:
 good to see the Pats are up to their dirty tricks again. fake an injury so you can get more time to review a play to challenge. then Bellicheat has the balls to yell at Thelien for complaining to the ref about it. classy organization still.Halifax2TheMax said:Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, pats have a game tomorrow and the playoffs up ahead. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 Good to see the Pats played another tough road game too...oh wait do they ever?
 sure seems like field goal kickers have been worse this year than previous years. I don't know the official stats but sure seems like there have been more missed kicks.
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            Ledbetterman10 said:
 There's something that hasn't been explored yet. You're a Patriots fan, and are obsessed in your distain of Trump. Yet Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are all friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Except what you posted about wasn’t cheating as even Theilin acknowledged in the post game presser. Nothing gets more tired than a bunch of whiners because the pats continue to win. Just STFU and play the game, in the NFL, the bastion of integrity.pjhawks said:
 show me one Eagle fan who defended Lane Johnson and said he shouldn't be suspended. we didn't make excuses or use the tired everyone does it like Pats fans have done on multiple occasions when caught cheating. go ahead ill wait while you try to find one...Poncier said:
 Well not everyone can have the integrity of say a Lane Johnson.pjhawks said:
 it's not against the rules but it shows a lack of integrity. of course the Pats have no integrity so it's not surprising.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Waaaaaaaaaa. Theilin even admitted it’s not a violation of the rules and post outburst he sucked. Like a Team has never “faked” an injury before. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.pjhawks said:
 good to see the Pats are up to their dirty tricks again. fake an injury so you can get more time to review a play to challenge. then Bellicheat has the balls to yell at Thelien for complaining to the ref about it. classy organization still.Halifax2TheMax said:Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, pats have a game tomorrow and the playoffs up ahead. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 Good to see the Pats played another tough road game too...oh wait do they ever?
 sure seems like field goal kickers have been worse this year than previous years. I don't know the official stats but sure seems like there have been more missed kicks.
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            how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.If I had known then what I know now...
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 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 Kaep isn't that good and the NFL doesn't want the headaches.Halifax2TheMax said:
 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.
 That being said I stand by Kaep though.0
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            tempo_n_groove said:
 Kaep isn't that good and the NFL doesn't want the headaches.Halifax2TheMax said:
 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.
 That being said I stand by Kaep though.
 he’s better than most backups and certainly better than the dude the skins just signed.
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 Since when has the NFL not had a “headache?” It’s a chronic condition. Migraine level.tempo_n_groove said:
 Kaep isn't that good and the NFL doesn't want the headaches.Halifax2TheMax said:
 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.
 That being said I stand by Kaep though.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 Kaep had the one good year when defensive coordinators didn’t know how to stop a run/pass option offense. After that he went 8-8, 2-6, and 1-10. He is 32 and hasn’t played in two years. And that’s not even factoring in the media firestorm that would take place. Not like he is going to be able to salvage the season for them so why put up with the headache if your team is going to suck nuts anyway.Wobbie said:tempo_n_groove said:
 Kaep isn't that good and the NFL doesn't want the headaches.Halifax2TheMax said:
 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.
 That being said I stand by Kaep though.
 he’s better than most backups and certainly better than the dude the skins just signed.
 matt leinhart does the perpetual 5 o’clock shadow, too.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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 Kaep was good under a coach that knew what he was doing and that was Jim Harbaugh.Jason P said:
 Kaep had the one good year when defensive coordinators didn’t know how to stop a run/pass option offense. After that he went 8-8, 2-6, and 1-10. He is 32 and hasn’t played in two years. And that’s not even factoring in the media firestorm that would take place. Not like he is going to be able to salvage the season for them so why put up with the headache if your team is going to suck nuts anyway.Wobbie said:tempo_n_groove said:
 Kaep isn't that good and the NFL doesn't want the headaches.Halifax2TheMax said:
 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.
 That being said I stand by Kaep though.
 he’s better than most backups and certainly better than the dude the skins just signed.
 matt leinhart does the perpetual 5 o’clock shadow, too.
 Once Harbaugh left you can see his numbers dropped, fell off rather, the map when coach left.
 I still believe Harbaugh left because he knew the team wouldn't hold up.0
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            If Goodell was smart (I don’t think he is), he would try to convince Snyder to hire Kaep for the remainder of the season to help against the eventual lawsuit in three years when Kaep sues the NFL for a billion dollars for conspiring.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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 The NFL is a private organization. They don't have to hire Kaep if they don't want to. That is what I don't understand and there being a lawsuit.Jason P said:If Goodell was smart (I don’t think he is), he would try to convince Snyder to hire Kaep for the remainder of the season to help against the eventual lawsuit in three years when Kaep sues the NFL for a billion dollars for conspiring.0
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 3 years?Jason P said:If Goodell was smart (I don’t think he is), he would try to convince Snyder to hire Kaep for the remainder of the season to help against the eventual lawsuit in three years when Kaep sues the NFL for a billion dollars for conspiring.
 Kaepernick is already currently suing the NFL for collusion.
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 I didn’t know a suit had been filed already.Poncier said:
 3 years?Jason P said:If Goodell was smart (I don’t think he is), he would try to convince Snyder to hire Kaep for the remainder of the season to help against the eventual lawsuit in three years when Kaep sues the NFL for a billion dollars for conspiring.
 Kaepernick is already currently suing the NFL for collusion.
 Anyway, the best thing in his collective interest is to never work in the NFL again. He is already one of NIKES best paid spokesperson and never working again will help future book deals, movie deals and paid speaking tours.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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 And I wouldn't be so sure that Kaep would even want to play for them. A man campaigning for social justice suiting up for a team called "Redskins" seems a little counterproductive to his message.tempo_n_groove said:
 Kaep isn't that good and the NFL doesn't want the headaches.Halifax2TheMax said:
 NFL integrity.Wobbie said:how ridiculous are the redskins “reasons” for not even bringing Kaep in for a workkout? instead, they go with a guy who has never won an NFL game, has thrown more INTs than TDs, hasn’t been on a roster in 7 years and sucked when he was.
 That being said I stand by Kaep though.
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