Donald Trump

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

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mrussel1 said:

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curmudgeoness said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

I just noticed you called her, his escort. Classy.

Seems fair. She did marry an old man because he's rich. And she doesn't leave him despite it being well-documented that he cheats on her. Trump himself has said they don't sleep in the same bed. 

That fucking escort Hillary couldn’t win the most winnable election then.

Given that Bill was neither older nor wealthy when they married, I’m not sure your analogy holds.  

no, but it could be argued that the only reason she stays with him is to forward her career just as much as anyone can argue that melania is a gold digger. 

Is there any evidence of that, though? I think there’s actually plenty to the contrary. 

Well she stays with Bill even though he cheats, and she's gone after the women that have accused him of sexual assault. Sounds more like a political partnership than a marriage and it might have led to a perception that she's not a leader since she's so bound to her powerful husband. The thought of divorce had to cross her mind when it became worldwide news that Bill was getting blowjobs from an intern. But it's in her best political interest to be Bill Clinton's wife. 

Because being married to Bill Clinton is was got her elected to the US Senate? Or nominated and confirmed as SOS? What’s Melania’s comparable achievements?
 

you don't think being first lady had ANYTHING to do with her subsequent political success?

I think Hillary accomplished much of what she accomplished because of her hard work and intelligence. Did Bill get her into Yale law school? Did Bill get her appointed to the house staff investigating Watergate? Did Bill write her opinions when she worked for the Rose Law Firm or get her the job? Are any of your wife's accomplishments the result of marrying you? Better tell your daughters to marry well.

Talk about hypocrisy. Hillary gets villified when in fact, if you asked anyone who has worked with her, including repub senators in that most exclusive club of 100, they all say how hard she worked, how much effort she put in in understanding the issues, the complexities, the minutua of policy and yet, its all due to being married to Bill.

And yes, if she divorced Bill and ran for the senate, she'd still get elected.

Behind every great man stands a greater woman.

I think old Bill himself acknowledges that she is smarter and tougher than he is. She got damn far before he became president. Like her or dislike her, pause for a second to think about the obstacles women her age faced back in the day.

of course. she was hugely successful. but no one can say definitively either way that she'd have gotten the nomination with our without being first lady to Bill Clinton. anyone suggesting so is fooling themselves. 

Nor could you say that Bill would have run g president of Hillary didn't push him or keep him on the relative straight and narrow. 

of course. 

Therefore that can be stated for any politician.  So I don't get why it's a point of discussion. 

it was a hypothetical retort mentioned only because of the post about melania being an escort. nothing more. then halifax has to take it to another fucking dimension and somehow I ended up being a sexist and horribly oppressive father. FFS. this place is unreal sometimes. 

Jesus fucking Christ, why does everyone on here get so offended so easily? Did I call you sexist? Did I call you an oppressive father? WTF? I disagreed with your opinion, statement or whatever the fuck you posited. I didn’t attack you. I didn’t call you a name. I responded to your question about whether Hillary being married to bill was responsible or had any bearing on her past or current success. Lighten the fuck up.
 

I don't get offended easily. it's because of how your carry yourself on these forums. I'll leave it at that. 

And you’re always a voice of sane reason and politeness? I’ll leave it at that.
 

no, but I'm not in constant Outrage Mode who attacks anyone as a sexist/racist/misogynist/uneducated who dares disagree with your opinion. try having a normal, calm discussion for once and maybe 75% of your posts won't be you quoting yourself because no one wants to bother. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

curmudgeoness said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

I just noticed you called her, his escort. Classy.

Seems fair. She did marry an old man because he's rich. And she doesn't leave him despite it being well-documented that he cheats on her. Trump himself has said they don't sleep in the same bed. 

That fucking escort Hillary couldn’t win the most winnable election then.

Given that Bill was neither older nor wealthy when they married, I’m not sure your analogy holds.  

no, but it could be argued that the only reason she stays with him is to forward her career just as much as anyone can argue that melania is a gold digger. 

Is there any evidence of that, though? I think there’s actually plenty to the contrary. 

Well she stays with Bill even though he cheats, and she's gone after the women that have accused him of sexual assault. Sounds more like a political partnership than a marriage and it might have led to a perception that she's not a leader since she's so bound to her powerful husband. The thought of divorce had to cross her mind when it became worldwide news that Bill was getting blowjobs from an intern. But it's in her best political interest to be Bill Clinton's wife. 

Because being married to Bill Clinton is was got her elected to the US Senate? Or nominated and confirmed as SOS? What’s Melania’s comparable achievements?
 

you don't think being first lady had ANYTHING to do with her subsequent political success?

I think Hillary accomplished much of what she accomplished because of her hard work and intelligence. Did Bill get her into Yale law school? Did Bill get her appointed to the house staff investigating Watergate? Did Bill write her opinions when she worked for the Rose Law Firm or get her the job? Are any of your wife's accomplishments the result of marrying you? Better tell your daughters to marry well.

Talk about hypocrisy. Hillary gets villified when in fact, if you asked anyone who has worked with her, including repub senators in that most exclusive club of 100, they all say how hard she worked, how much effort she put in in understanding the issues, the complexities, the minutua of policy and yet, its all due to being married to Bill.

And yes, if she divorced Bill and ran for the senate, she'd still get elected.

Behind every great man stands a greater woman.

I think old Bill himself acknowledges that she is smarter and tougher than he is. She got damn far before he became president. Like her or dislike her, pause for a second to think about the obstacles women her age faced back in the day.

of course. she was hugely successful. but no one can say definitively either way that she'd have gotten the nomination with our without being first lady to Bill Clinton. anyone suggesting so is fooling themselves. 

Nor could you say that Bill would have run g president of Hillary didn't push him or keep him on the relative straight and narrow. 

of course. 

Therefore that can be stated for any politician.  So I don't get why it's a point of discussion. 

it was a hypothetical retort mentioned only because of the post about melania being an escort. nothing more. then halifax has to take it to another fucking dimension and somehow I ended up being a sexist and horribly oppressive father. FFS. this place is unreal sometimes. 

Jesus fucking Christ, why does everyone on here get so offended so easily? Did I call you sexist? Did I call you an oppressive father? WTF? I disagreed with your opinion, statement or whatever the fuck you posited. I didn’t attack you. I didn’t call you a name. I responded to your question about whether Hillary being married to bill was responsible or had any bearing on her past or current success. Lighten the fuck up.
 

I don't get offended easily. it's because of how your carry yourself on these forums. I'll leave it at that. 

And you’re always a voice of sane reason and politeness? I’ll leave it at that.
 

no, but I'm not in constant Outrage Mode who attacks anyone as a sexist/racist/misogynist/uneducated who dares disagree with your opinion. try having a normal, calm discussion for once and maybe 75% of your posts won't be you quoting yourself because no one wants to bother. 

Did I call you any of those things? And I don’t quote myself. I’m not outraged, just calling it as I see it. Sorry that bothers you but you post your way, and I’ll post mine. Okay?
 

we all call it like we see it. you aren't special. 

Cheeto eating, basement dwelling, keyboard warrior, internet tough guy, pompous liberal bully elitist who’s not the smartest guy in the room and aren’t special punk asshole

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

curmudgeoness said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

I just noticed you called her, his escort. Classy.

Seems fair. She did marry an old man because he's rich. And she doesn't leave him despite it being well-documented that he cheats on her. Trump himself has said they don't sleep in the same bed. 

That fucking escort Hillary couldn’t win the most winnable election then.

Given that Bill was neither older nor wealthy when they married, I’m not sure your analogy holds.  

no, but it could be argued that the only reason she stays with him is to forward her career just as much as anyone can argue that melania is a gold digger. 

Is there any evidence of that, though? I think there’s actually plenty to the contrary. 

Well she stays with Bill even though he cheats, and she's gone after the women that have accused him of sexual assault. Sounds more like a political partnership than a marriage and it might have led to a perception that she's not a leader since she's so bound to her powerful husband. The thought of divorce had to cross her mind when it became worldwide news that Bill was getting blowjobs from an intern. But it's in her best political interest to be Bill Clinton's wife. 

Because being married to Bill Clinton is was got her elected to the US Senate? Or nominated and confirmed as SOS? What’s Melania’s comparable achievements?
 

you don't think being first lady had ANYTHING to do with her subsequent political success?

I think Hillary accomplished much of what she accomplished because of her hard work and intelligence. Did Bill get her into Yale law school? Did Bill get her appointed to the house staff investigating Watergate? Did Bill write her opinions when she worked for the Rose Law Firm or get her the job? Are any of your wife's accomplishments the result of marrying you? Better tell your daughters to marry well.

Talk about hypocrisy. Hillary gets villified when in fact, if you asked anyone who has worked with her, including repub senators in that most exclusive club of 100, they all say how hard she worked, how much effort she put in in understanding the issues, the complexities, the minutua of policy and yet, its all due to being married to Bill.

And yes, if she divorced Bill and ran for the senate, she'd still get elected.

Behind every great man stands a greater woman.

I think old Bill himself acknowledges that she is smarter and tougher than he is. She got damn far before he became president. Like her or dislike her, pause for a second to think about the obstacles women her age faced back in the day.

of course. she was hugely successful. but no one can say definitively either way that she'd have gotten the nomination with our without being first lady to Bill Clinton. anyone suggesting so is fooling themselves. 

Nor could you say that Bill would have run g president of Hillary didn't push him or keep him on the relative straight and narrow. 

of course. 

Therefore that can be stated for any politician.  So I don't get why it's a point of discussion. 

it was a hypothetical retort mentioned only because of the post about melania being an escort. nothing more. then halifax has to take it to another fucking dimension and somehow I ended up being a sexist and horribly oppressive father. FFS. this place is unreal sometimes. 

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

curmudgeoness said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

I just noticed you called her, his escort. Classy.

Seems fair. She did marry an old man because he's rich. And she doesn't leave him despite it being well-documented that he cheats on her. Trump himself has said they don't sleep in the same bed. 

That fucking escort Hillary couldn’t win the most winnable election then.

Given that Bill was neither older nor wealthy when they married, I’m not sure your analogy holds.  

no, but it could be argued that the only reason she stays with him is to forward her career just as much as anyone can argue that melania is a gold digger. 

Is there any evidence of that, though? I think there’s actually plenty to the contrary. 

Well she stays with Bill even though he cheats, and she's gone after the women that have accused him of sexual assault. Sounds more like a political partnership than a marriage and it might have led to a perception that she's not a leader since she's so bound to her powerful husband. The thought of divorce had to cross her mind when it became worldwide news that Bill was getting blowjobs from an intern. But it's in her best political interest to be Bill Clinton's wife. 

Because being married to Bill Clinton is was got her elected to the US Senate? Or nominated and confirmed as SOS? What’s Melania’s comparable achievements?
 

you don't think being first lady had ANYTHING to do with her subsequent political success?

I think Hillary accomplished much of what she accomplished because of her hard work and intelligence. Did Bill get her into Yale law school? Did Bill get her appointed to the house staff investigating Watergate? Did Bill write her opinions when she worked for the Rose Law Firm or get her the job? Are any of your wife's accomplishments the result of marrying you? Better tell your daughters to marry well.

Talk about hypocrisy. Hillary gets villified when in fact, if you asked anyone who has worked with her, including repub senators in that most exclusive club of 100, they all say how hard she worked, how much effort she put in in understanding the issues, the complexities, the minutua of policy and yet, its all due to being married to Bill.

And yes, if she divorced Bill and ran for the senate, she'd still get elected.

Behind every great man stands a greater woman.

I think old Bill himself acknowledges that she is smarter and tougher than he is. She got damn far before he became president. Like her or dislike her, pause for a second to think about the obstacles women her age faced back in the day.

of course. she was hugely successful. but no one can say definitively either way that she'd have gotten the nomination with our without being first lady to Bill Clinton. anyone suggesting so is fooling themselves. 

Nor could you say that Bill would have run g president of Hillary didn't push him or keep him on the relative straight and narrow. 

of course. 

Therefore that can be stated for any politician.  So I don't get why it's a point of discussion. 

it was a hypothetical retort mentioned only because of the post about melania being an escort. nothing more. then halifax has to take it to another fucking dimension and somehow I ended up being a sexist and horribly oppressive father. FFS. this place is unreal sometimes. 

More often then not anymore. 

You setting someone up with that comment?

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

curmudgeoness said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

I just noticed you called her, his escort. Classy.

Seems fair. She did marry an old man because he's rich. And she doesn't leave him despite it being well-documented that he cheats on her. Trump himself has said they don't sleep in the same bed. 

That fucking escort Hillary couldn’t win the most winnable election then.

Given that Bill was neither older nor wealthy when they married, I’m not sure your analogy holds.  

no, but it could be argued that the only reason she stays with him is to forward her career just as much as anyone can argue that melania is a gold digger. 

Is there any evidence of that, though? I think there’s actually plenty to the contrary. 

Well she stays with Bill even though he cheats, and she's gone after the women that have accused him of sexual assault. Sounds more like a political partnership than a marriage and it might have led to a perception that she's not a leader since she's so bound to her powerful husband. The thought of divorce had to cross her mind when it became worldwide news that Bill was getting blowjobs from an intern. But it's in her best political interest to be Bill Clinton's wife. 

Because being married to Bill Clinton is was got her elected to the US Senate? Or nominated and confirmed as SOS? What’s Melania’s comparable achievements?
 

you don't think being first lady had ANYTHING to do with her subsequent political success?

I think Hillary accomplished much of what she accomplished because of her hard work and intelligence. Did Bill get her into Yale law school? Did Bill get her appointed to the house staff investigating Watergate? Did Bill write her opinions when she worked for the Rose Law Firm or get her the job? Are any of your wife's accomplishments the result of marrying you? Better tell your daughters to marry well.

Talk about hypocrisy. Hillary gets villified when in fact, if you asked anyone who has worked with her, including repub senators in that most exclusive club of 100, they all say how hard she worked, how much effort she put in in understanding the issues, the complexities, the minutua of policy and yet, its all due to being married to Bill.

And yes, if she divorced Bill and ran for the senate, she'd still get elected.

Behind every great man stands a greater woman.

I think old Bill himself acknowledges that she is smarter and tougher than he is. She got damn far before he became president. Like her or dislike her, pause for a second to think about the obstacles women her age faced back in the day.

of course. she was hugely successful. but no one can say definitively either way that she'd have gotten the nomination with our without being first lady to Bill Clinton. anyone suggesting so is fooling themselves. 

Nor could you say that Bill would have run g president of Hillary didn't push him or keep him on the relative straight and narrow. 

of course. 

Therefore that can be stated for any politician.  So I don't get why it's a point of discussion. 

it was a hypothetical retort mentioned only because of the post about melania being an escort. nothing more. then halifax has to take it to another fucking dimension and somehow I ended up being a sexist and horribly oppressive father. FFS. this place is unreal sometimes. 

More often then not anymore. 

You setting someone up with that comment?

Ummm no. Just agreeing with the comment I quoted.

So the bad grammar and syntax was unintentional? I do not buy that. 

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Some posters can’t own their shit.

Nah come on.  I really just thought he was messing with us