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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    Nothing is going to change.
    She's up by 122 votes.  Your clairvoyance is impressive.  
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm talking about daily life.  And thank you.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    She hasn't been declared a winner, right?  The race is uncalled, but nice try.  
    I'm sure more votes will be found under the bed like AZ and Florida which all are for Democrats, right?

    But every vote must be counted, right?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    She hasn't been declared a winner, right?  The race is uncalled, but nice try.  
    I'm sure more votes will be found under the bed like AZ and Florida which all are for Democrats, right?

    But every vote must be counted, right?
    You speak like someone who has no idea about the mechanics of an election.  In AZ, on election night, the mail in/drop off ballots had not been counted.  That's why only 75% of the votes were in.  There's a Republican gov and Sec'y of State in AZ and neither has claimed any malfeasance, nor has McSally.  But you know better right...  you just know there's a bunch of Mexicans changing their clothes in their portable adobes and going back into vote.  
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    no man...huge conspiracy.  She must be getting indicted
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    edited November 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    She hasn't been declared a winner, right?  The race is uncalled, but nice try.  
    I had no idea who Young Kim was.
    So I googled it.
    Note the first response...


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    And down goes another Republican...  This is another pickup seat.  
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/414309-democrat-defeats-gop-lawmaker-bruce-poliquin-in-maine

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,810
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,653
    edited November 2018
    cincybearcat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
    State elections should be left up to the states. Federal elections should be left up to the feds. That is how it works in Canada. Canada Elections doesn't run provincial elections. In BC, Elections BC runs the elections. Meltdown was only talking about federal elections. But of course, we have a different system of government altogether, so I get what he means. Like, while midterms in the US also involve selecting Governors, which is state level, it also elects federal senate and congress members. So the lines are way more blurred during the midterms than they are in Canadian provincial elections, which are completely separate from anything on the federal level, and then federal and provincial governments just do their best to work with one another. Which, humbly, make way, way, way more sense.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    funny that Ed and the other members of the band have little to no social media presence given the state of our humble country.  I keep hearing Ticketmaster in my head...Help me @RichardMarx
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
    State elections should be left up to the states. Federal elections should be left up to the feds. That is how it works in Canada. Canada Elections doesn't run provincial elections. In BC, Elections BC runs the elections. Meltdown was only talking about federal elections. But of course, we have a different system of government altogether, so I get what he means. Like, while midterms in the US also involve selecting Governors, which is state level, it also elects federal senate and congress members. So the lines are way more blurred during the midterms than they are in Canadian provincial elections, which are completely separate from anything on the federal level, and then federal and provincial governments just do their best to work with one another. Which, humbly, make way, way, way more sense.
    That is correct.  I was thinking of federal.  Still might not be a bad idea to somehow have the same rules in every state, oversaw by the federal government.  our elections are different that way, we never vote the same day for 2 different levels of government, or at least in Ontario we don't.  If it wasn't for Wynn moving the provincial election date to earlier in the year, Ford might not be premier...lol
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
    State elections should be left up to the states. Federal elections should be left up to the feds. That is how it works in Canada. Canada Elections doesn't run provincial elections. In BC, Elections BC runs the elections. Meltdown was only talking about federal elections. But of course, we have a different system of government altogether, so I get what he means. Like, while midterms in the US also involve selecting Governors, which is state level, it also elects federal senate and congress members. So the lines are way more blurred during the midterms than they are in Canadian provincial elections, which are completely separate from anything on the federal level, and then federal and provincial governments just do their best to work with one another. Which, humbly, make way, way, way more sense.
    That is correct.  I was thinking of federal.  Still might not be a bad idea to somehow have the same rules in every state, oversaw by the federal government.  our elections are different that way, we never vote the same day for 2 different levels of government, or at least in Ontario we don't.  If it wasn't for Wynn moving the provincial election date to earlier in the year, Ford might not be premier...lol
    Just to give you guys two very unique examples of states controlling the federal process, that just cropped this election:

    In the Maine congressional, each voter ranks their selection of candidates.  If no one gets 50%+1 voter, the top two candidates receive the #2 ranked votes on the ballots where the top two weren't number one.  Then they move on to number 3 and so on until someone gets over 50%.  So it matters who you rank #2.  The Democratic candidate won the election this week based on the number of #2 votes he received, because no one won 50% in the straight ballot.

    In the Mississippi Senate, they have to do a run off with the top 2 because no one got 50% in the direct.  That's next week I think.  So yeah, there are some unique systems in place, based on the formation of the original gov't. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
    State elections should be left up to the states. Federal elections should be left up to the feds. That is how it works in Canada. Canada Elections doesn't run provincial elections. In BC, Elections BC runs the elections. Meltdown was only talking about federal elections. But of course, we have a different system of government altogether, so I get what he means. Like, while midterms in the US also involve selecting Governors, which is state level, it also elects federal senate and congress members. So the lines are way more blurred during the midterms than they are in Canadian provincial elections, which are completely separate from anything on the federal level, and then federal and provincial governments just do their best to work with one another. Which, humbly, make way, way, way more sense.
    That is correct.  I was thinking of federal.  Still might not be a bad idea to somehow have the same rules in every state, oversaw by the federal government.  our elections are different that way, we never vote the same day for 2 different levels of government, or at least in Ontario we don't.  If it wasn't for Wynn moving the provincial election date to earlier in the year, Ford might not be premier...lol
    Just to give you guys two very unique examples of states controlling the federal process, that just cropped this election:

    In the Maine congressional, each voter ranks their selection of candidates.  If no one gets 50%+1 voter, the top two candidates receive the #2 ranked votes on the ballots where the top two weren't number one.  Then they move on to number 3 and so on until someone gets over 50%.  So it matters who you rank #2.  The Democratic candidate won the election this week based on the number of #2 votes he received, because no one won 50% in the straight ballot.

    In the Mississippi Senate, they have to do a run off with the top 2 because no one got 50% in the direct.  That's next week I think.  So yeah, there are some unique systems in place, based on the formation of the original gov't. 
    As the courts become more political, I would not be surprised to see both of these challenged in federal court given their impact on left wing third party spoilers.

    The process has already started in Maine. 
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/15/jared-golden-maine-election-993293
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
    State elections should be left up to the states. Federal elections should be left up to the feds. That is how it works in Canada. Canada Elections doesn't run provincial elections. In BC, Elections BC runs the elections. Meltdown was only talking about federal elections. But of course, we have a different system of government altogether, so I get what he means. Like, while midterms in the US also involve selecting Governors, which is state level, it also elects federal senate and congress members. So the lines are way more blurred during the midterms than they are in Canadian provincial elections, which are completely separate from anything on the federal level, and then federal and provincial governments just do their best to work with one another. Which, humbly, make way, way, way more sense.
    That is correct.  I was thinking of federal.  Still might not be a bad idea to somehow have the same rules in every state, oversaw by the federal government.  our elections are different that way, we never vote the same day for 2 different levels of government, or at least in Ontario we don't.  If it wasn't for Wynn moving the provincial election date to earlier in the year, Ford might not be premier...lol
    Just to give you guys two very unique examples of states controlling the federal process, that just cropped this election:

    In the Maine congressional, each voter ranks their selection of candidates.  If no one gets 50%+1 voter, the top two candidates receive the #2 ranked votes on the ballots where the top two weren't number one.  Then they move on to number 3 and so on until someone gets over 50%.  So it matters who you rank #2.  The Democratic candidate won the election this week based on the number of #2 votes he received, because no one won 50% in the straight ballot.

    In the Mississippi Senate, they have to do a run off with the top 2 because no one got 50% in the direct.  That's next week I think.  So yeah, there are some unique systems in place, based on the formation of the original gov't. 
    As the courts become more political, I would not be surprised to see both of these challenged in federal court given their impact on left wing third party spoilers.

    The process has already started in Maine. 
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/15/jared-golden-maine-election-993293
    I don't know anything about the Maine state constitution, but I don't understand where in the federal one, this would be illegal.  The article isn't specific enough to identify why he is suing.  Should be interesting.  
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    She hasn't been declared a winner, right?  The race is uncalled, but nice try.  
    I'm sure more votes will be found under the bed like AZ and Florida which all are for Democrats, right?

    But every vote must be counted, right?
    You speak like someone who has no idea about the mechanics of an election.  In AZ, on election night, the mail in/drop off ballots had not been counted.  That's why only 75% of the votes were in.  There's a Republican gov and Sec'y of State in AZ and neither has claimed any malfeasance, nor has McSally.  But you know better right...  you just know there's a bunch of Mexicans changing their clothes in their portable adobes and going back into vote.  
    @unsung? Care to respond? A meme, perhaps?
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    vaggar99 said:
    funny that Ed and the other members of the band have little to no social media presence given the state of our humble country.  I keep hearing Ticketmaster in my head...Help me @RichardMarx
    What good does a social media presence do? It's a cesspool, they are wise for avoiding the toxic pit
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    She hasn't been declared a winner, right?  The race is uncalled, but nice try.  
    I'm sure more votes will be found under the bed like AZ and Florida which all are for Democrats, right?

    But every vote must be counted, right?
    You speak like someone who has no idea about the mechanics of an election.  In AZ, on election night, the mail in/drop off ballots had not been counted.  That's why only 75% of the votes were in.  There's a Republican gov and Sec'y of State in AZ and neither has claimed any malfeasance, nor has McSally.  But you know better right...  you just know there's a bunch of Mexicans changing their clothes in their portable adobes and going back into vote.  
    @unsung? Care to respond? A meme, perhaps?
    Young Kim lost, so she will not be in the picture. She would not appear in a freshman House picture even if she were elected as she was running as the incumbent. 

    Orange County - red to blue.
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited November 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada we have elections Canada who runs the elections, people vote the same way no matter where they live.  How come the US does not create consistency in how people vote?  Also, we just had municipal elections and I was not registered on the voting list ... I went to the polling station, showed my drivers licence, voted and was gone in less than 5 minutes...
    Yeah, it’s cause it’s left up to the states. States rights and all. Personally I’d be for a federal program...and that’s saying a lot :)
    State elections should be left up to the states. Federal elections should be left up to the feds. That is how it works in Canada. Canada Elections doesn't run provincial elections. In BC, Elections BC runs the elections. Meltdown was only talking about federal elections. But of course, we have a different system of government altogether, so I get what he means. Like, while midterms in the US also involve selecting Governors, which is state level, it also elects federal senate and congress members. So the lines are way more blurred during the midterms than they are in Canadian provincial elections, which are completely separate from anything on the federal level, and then federal and provincial governments just do their best to work with one another. Which, humbly, make way, way, way more sense.
    That is correct.  I was thinking of federal.  Still might not be a bad idea to somehow have the same rules in every state, oversaw by the federal government.  our elections are different that way, we never vote the same day for 2 different levels of government, or at least in Ontario we don't.  If it wasn't for Wynn moving the provincial election date to earlier in the year, Ford might not be premier...lol
    Just to give you guys two very unique examples of states controlling the federal process, that just cropped this election:

    In the Maine congressional, each voter ranks their selection of candidates.  If no one gets 50%+1 voter, the top two candidates receive the #2 ranked votes on the ballots where the top two weren't number one.  Then they move on to number 3 and so on until someone gets over 50%.  So it matters who you rank #2.  The Democratic candidate won the election this week based on the number of #2 votes he received, because no one won 50% in the straight ballot.

    In the Mississippi Senate, they have to do a run off with the top 2 because no one got 50% in the direct.  That's next week I think.  So yeah, there are some unique systems in place, based on the formation of the original gov't. 
    As the courts become more political, I would not be surprised to see both of these challenged in federal court given their impact on left wing third party spoilers.

    The process has already started in Maine. 
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/15/jared-golden-maine-election-993293
    I don't know anything about the Maine state constitution, but I don't understand where in the federal one, this would be illegal.  The article isn't specific enough to identify why he is suing.  Should be interesting.  
    My response would be that he is suing because he lost. If he were the second choice of the majority of the voters; or he won with a clear majority I would bet there would be no lawsuit.

    I like the idea of third party candidates having a second choice in case there is not a clear winner with over 50% of the vote. I hate to see someone lose by 1,000 votes when there are 20,000 votes that are just thrown away. It would solve the problem of people wanting to run as a third party and the desire for people to vote for people that are not in 'the two party system'. People get to vote their conscious and then have a second choice when that person, most times, loses. 

    It's a more structured version of caucuses. 
    Post edited by njnancy on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    njnancy said:
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure where to put this....


    Young Kim isn't there.  Simple mistake, I am sure.
    She hasn't been declared a winner, right?  The race is uncalled, but nice try.  
    I'm sure more votes will be found under the bed like AZ and Florida which all are for Democrats, right?

    But every vote must be counted, right?
    You speak like someone who has no idea about the mechanics of an election.  In AZ, on election night, the mail in/drop off ballots had not been counted.  That's why only 75% of the votes were in.  There's a Republican gov and Sec'y of State in AZ and neither has claimed any malfeasance, nor has McSally.  But you know better right...  you just know there's a bunch of Mexicans changing their clothes in their portable adobes and going back into vote.  
    @unsung? Care to respond? A meme, perhaps?
    Young Kim lost, so she will not be in the picture. She would not appear in a freshman House picture even if she were elected as she was running as the incumbent. 

    Orange County - red to blue.
    Woohoo!  Keep the blue wave a crashin'!

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