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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,536
    So we can get drone deliveries to our homes but keep relying on outdated voting machines across the country, how long was Scott the Governor of Florida and they still can’t count votes can’t trust Scott !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    There’s nothing misleading at all.  She comes from the Bernie Sanders School of Economics, everything is FREE!!!!!!  It’s cheaper so we just pay for it, lol.  Completely clueless.

    I see the latest GOP bogeyman has been determined.

    We get it, she's a woman.  And a minority.  (gasp)

    Are we going to have to listen to you blow this dog whistle for the next 4 years?  It's not even subtle anymore. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,390
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    There’s nothing misleading at all.  She comes from the Bernie Sanders School of Economics, everything is FREE!!!!!!  It’s cheaper so we just pay for it, lol.  Completely clueless.

    I see the latest GOP bogeyman has been determined.

    We get it, she's a woman.  And a minority.  (gasp)

    Are we going to have to listen to you blow this dog whistle for the next 4 years?  It's not even subtle anymore. 
    The white supremacist, white nationalist, racist incels are scared shitless of an educated, Hispanic woman with her own thoughts, goals, and ideas.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Pretty sure unsung is more focused on the democratic socialist thing than race and sex 

    Not everything is racism or sexism, good god

    Same reason fox has been focused on her, socialism is the boogeyman, not her race
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited November 2018
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure unsung is more focused on the democratic socialist thing than race and sex 

    Not everything is racism or sexism, good god

    Same reason fox has been focused on her, socialism is the boogeyman, not her race
    You seemed to be saying something somewhat opposite of this in previous posts.

    So which is it, man? Are people focused on policy or personality?

    https://youtu.be/1ikGDg_JWWU
    Post edited by dankind on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    unsung said:
    There’s nothing misleading at all.  She comes from the Bernie Sanders School of Economics, everything is FREE!!!!!!  It’s cheaper so we just pay for it, lol.  Completely clueless.
    Medicare for all isn't clueless....there is no logical argument that you could make that would lead anyone with a brain larger than a pea to believe that it wouldn't be cheaper.  That's easy logic.  
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    unsung said:
    The next two years are going to have great comedic value.
    this is so stupid. she never said she didn't know how to pay for it just that she couldn't afford it right now. you know since her high paying job in DC doesn't start until January.  nice effort though.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dankind said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure unsung is more focused on the democratic socialist thing than race and sex 

    Not everything is racism or sexism, good god

    Same reason fox has been focused on her, socialism is the boogeyman, not her race
    You seemed to be saying something somewhat opposite of this in previous posts.

    So which is it, man? Are people focused on policy or personality?

    https://youtu.be/1ikGDg_JWWU
    It's exhausting trying to have a debate with someone who says something, disagrees with it when it's summarized, and then says it again.  WTF.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    And it is officially called!  Congrats to Senator Sinema! 
     https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/414604-sinema-defeats-mcsally-in-key-arizona-senate-race
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,390
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mrussel1 said:
    And it is officially called!  Congrats to Senator Sinema! 
     https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/414604-sinema-defeats-mcsally-in-key-arizona-senate-race
    You just beat me to it! That's Jeff Flake's seat, right? They put someone in McCain's seat when he passed away? I could google but the Giants are about to start playing. :worried:
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
    This isn't about what anyone is rooting for, these are facts.  You don't cut taxes and increase the deficit and debt during a bull market, one that was 8 years long.  This was the time we should have been reducing the debt load and dealing with entitlements. But that window has closed now.  Remember that the Dow is a leading indicator.  Unemployment numbers are lagging.   
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
    This isn't about what anyone is rooting for, these are facts.  You don't cut taxes and increase the deficit and debt during a bull market, one that was 8 years long.  This was the time we should have been reducing the debt load and dealing with entitlements. But that window has closed now.  Remember that the Dow is a leading indicator.  Unemployment numbers are lagging.   
    I think a lot of people are rooting for this. A lot. Maybe not you, but there are a ton of people that would gladly see the economy burn if it somehow hurt Trumps chances. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
    This isn't about what anyone is rooting for, these are facts.  You don't cut taxes and increase the deficit and debt during a bull market, one that was 8 years long.  This was the time we should have been reducing the debt load and dealing with entitlements. But that window has closed now.  Remember that the Dow is a leading indicator.  Unemployment numbers are lagging.   
    I think a lot of people are rooting for this. A lot. Maybe not you, but there are a ton of people that would gladly see the economy burn if it somehow hurt Trumps chances. 
    I made a hundred dollar bet with someone that the market would be recessionary by end of Q2 2019.   We made the bet right when the tax cuts were passed.  So maybe I'm hoping for a little recession so I don't lose a whole hundred dollars.  

    Fortunately the fed has maintained its independence despite Trump and his public pronouncements against raising the discount rate.  They have rightly raised them so at least we can possibly control the depths.  I don't imagine it will come close to 2009 but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Dow move back towards 20.  We are absolutely due for a Bear. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,981
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
    This isn't about what anyone is rooting for, these are facts.  You don't cut taxes and increase the deficit and debt during a bull market, one that was 8 years long.  This was the time we should have been reducing the debt load and dealing with entitlements. But that window has closed now.  Remember that the Dow is a leading indicator.  Unemployment numbers are lagging.   
    I think a lot of people are rooting for this. A lot. Maybe not you, but there are a ton of people that would gladly see the economy burn if it somehow hurt Trumps chances. 
    Most of us realize the economy is cyclical and that nothing lasts forever. We also know it’s been 96 months of sustained growth, unprecedented, and that GDP growth needs to be 4% or better, quarter over quarter for 10 years to pay for the tax cuts. Again, unprecedented. Some people are stupid. Some people are not.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
    This isn't about what anyone is rooting for, these are facts.  You don't cut taxes and increase the deficit and debt during a bull market, one that was 8 years long.  This was the time we should have been reducing the debt load and dealing with entitlements. But that window has closed now.  Remember that the Dow is a leading indicator.  Unemployment numbers are lagging.   
    I think a lot of people are rooting for this. A lot. Maybe not you, but there are a ton of people that would gladly see the economy burn if it somehow hurt Trumps chances. 
    Most of us realize the economy is cyclical and that nothing lasts forever. We also know it’s been 96 months of sustained growth, unprecedented, and that GDP growth needs to be 4% or better, quarter over quarter for 10 years to pay for the tax cuts. Again, unprecedented. Some people are stupid. Some people are not.
    And that is exactly it.  
    Think about that.. 4% QOQ, there's a multiplying effect to that number.  It's unsustainable.  
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sinema up by 1.7%.  Lead is growing.  She's up by 4%!! in Maricopa, and that's with a Green candidate on the ballot.  I'm really not sure how McSally closes the gap in the small counties that are left.  And Trump is busy blaming the Democrats for the 600 pt Dow drop.  

    The ride is ending.  By 2020, we'll be in a recession and Trump will have zero levers to pull to get us out of it. That's what happens when you cut taxes during a Bull market.  Doi...
    Joy. Economy will be in the crapper, but at least it hurts Trump?
    This isn't about what anyone is rooting for, these are facts.  You don't cut taxes and increase the deficit and debt during a bull market, one that was 8 years long.  This was the time we should have been reducing the debt load and dealing with entitlements. But that window has closed now.  Remember that the Dow is a leading indicator.  Unemployment numbers are lagging.   
    I think a lot of people are rooting for this. A lot. Maybe not you, but there are a ton of people that would gladly see the economy burn if it somehow hurt Trumps chances. 
    Most of us realize the economy is cyclical and that nothing lasts forever. We also know it’s been 96 months of sustained growth, unprecedented, and that GDP growth needs to be 4% or better, quarter over quarter for 10 years to pay for the tax cuts. Again, unprecedented. Some people are stupid. Some people are not.
    And that is exactly it.  
    Think about that.. 4% QOQ, there's a multiplying effect to that number.  It's unsustainable.  
    Economics has always been my weakness. I understand on a basic level but by no means understand the market, etc. And I'm not invested in anything so there is no reason for me to be on top of it. Perhaps I should I educate myself, but I remember macro and micro in college and it was the one thing that I never really got. Oh, and architecture. 

    Anyway, these posts help because longer articles on the economy lose my interest. 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure unsung is more focused on the democratic socialist thing than race and sex 

    Not everything is racism or sexism, good god

    Same reason fox has been focused on her, socialism is the boogeyman, not her race
    You seemed to be saying something somewhat opposite of this in previous posts.

    So which is it, man? Are people focused on policy or personality?

    https://youtu.be/1ikGDg_JWWU
    It's exhausting trying to have a debate with someone who says something, disagrees with it when it's summarized, and then says it again.  WTF.  
    Easy answer... socialism is the bumper sticker that describes the candidate to most... it's the same noose around Bernies neck... the bumper sticker isnt always a good thing, it can be a bad thing. 

    No matter what she does, or what Bernie does, the immediate label (bumper sticker) in most peoples heads applied to them will be "Socialist"

    Why do you think Trump gives opponents names mocking them? They are bumper stickers and they work. He's branding his oppenents, and it sticks. Just ask Pocahontas 

    Does anybody remember Hillary's policy platform? I dont, and i voted for her. That tells me most dont remember or never really knew. Her platform was "i'm not him".... but EVERYBODY remembers Crooked Hillary, and always will

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