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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,163
    Ah, Team Trump Treason, sir? Repubs don’t vote for the opposing party’s speaker.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060162807960870913
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    OnWis97 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Please please please dems, pick someone besides Pelosi for Speaker of the House.
    I am with you.  She’s the boogyman.  I have no beef with her but it’s time to move on.
    Won’t whoever’s next simply become the boogeyman? 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,203
    tbergs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Please please please dems, pick someone besides Pelosi for Speaker of the House.
    I am with you.  She’s the boogyman.  I have no beef with her but it’s time to move on.
    She’s Team Trump Treason’s boogeyman but I tend to agree. Time to move on but she knows her way around congress and rounding up votes. Be tough for someone else to beat her for the speakership and Dems need unity.
     
    I don't know that I've heard anyone say they want Pelosi in charge, but it seems that is how it's going to be. Why does the House Speaker always have to be a complete doof?
    I want some new leadership and direction.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    oftenreading said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Please please please dems, pick someone besides Pelosi for Speaker of the House.
    I am with you.  She’s the boogyman.  I have no beef with her but it’s time to move on.
    Won’t whoever’s next simply become the boogeyman? 
    This is true, but it will take some time to make the boogeyman.  

    I do agree that Pelosi should not be speaker.  Her run was too long ago.  I respect her immensely, in fundraising, organizing, etc.  
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ah, Team Trump Treason, sir? Repubs don’t vote for the opposing party’s speaker.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060162807960870913
    Trump wants Pelosi because he knows her name is poison and helps the GOP in 2020

     Democrats will fuck this up, no doubt
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Democrats +6 in the Gov race, including 3 states that voted for Trump in 16.  This is a good sign for 2020.  
    FL and OH are gone me thinks.  But they aren't required anymore, yet slims the margin of error for them.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,203


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/takeaways-split-decision-trump-democrats-083338371--election.html

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats didn't catch a blue wave. But they managed the next best thing: Divided government in the Trump era.

    House Democrats won back the majority for the first time since the 2010 elections. Helped by President Donald Trump, Republicans captured Senate seats in Indiana, Missouri and North Dakota to maintain a narrow advantage.

    In the Great Lakes region, Democrats secured governors' offices in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, complicating the president's re-election campaign in an area that propelled him to victory in 2016. But Trump helped Republicans claim governors' seats in Ohio and in Florida, where his hand-picked choice, Ron DeSantis, edged Andrew Gillum in the state's high-profile governors' race.

    Tuesday's midterm elections offered something for everyone. Democrats will control the House, but Trump will point to GOP success in the Senate as proof that he defied the odds and avoided the type of midterm wipeout that afflicted his predecessor, former President Barack Obama.

    Yet Trump's administration will now face intense scrutiny from House Democrats and a slew of subpoenas and document requests of his Cabinet — not to mention a renewed push for the president's tax returns. And as special counsel Robert Mueller presses forward with the Russia investigation, the most liberal members of the Democratic caucus are expected to sound the alarm for the president's impeachment.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    On a more dour note,  the losses in Florida and Ohio,  in a democratic year,  tells me these states may be lost.  Turning into Missouri...

    Cordray hasn't lost yet,  but it's not looking great. 
    no official totals yet but turnout was 50% or so..... wwhich for Ohio means approx 4 million stayed home.
    My polling place was not busy at all and I’m in Franklin county which Cordray won. Cordray is the first Democrat I’ve voted for Governor. I’ve never been a fan of Mike Dewine
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Holy shit.  Pelosi Is 78 and Feinstein is 85.  Not to mention those olds republicans who have been there forever, highlights the need for term limits.
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  • my2hands
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    Some of those dems in the house are in purple or more rural districts, i wouldn't expect them to all be in lockstep. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,163
    Meltdown99 said:
    Holy shit.  Pelosi Is 78 and Feinstein is 85.  Not to mention those olds republicans who have been there forever, highlights the need for term limits.
    Why?
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  • mrussel1
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    KC138045 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    On a more dour note,  the losses in Florida and Ohio,  in a democratic year,  tells me these states may be lost.  Turning into Missouri...

    Cordray hasn't lost yet,  but it's not looking great. 
    no official totals yet but turnout was 50% or so..... wwhich for Ohio means approx 4 million stayed home.
    My polling place was not busy at all and I’m in Franklin county which Cordray won. Cordray is the first Democrat I’ve voted for Governor. I’ve never been a fan of Mike Dewine
    I grew up in Cleveland and I just don't understand what has happened to Ohio.  My guess is that so many young people grew up, went to school and left the state for good.  That's what I did.  It's been fading redder and redder for several years so I'm guessing it's an aging state.
     
    BTW, as a Democrat, I probably would have voted for Kasich too.  I have a lot of respect for the guy, even if I don't agree with him on everything.  
  • my2hands
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    mrussel1 said:
    KC138045 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    On a more dour note,  the losses in Florida and Ohio,  in a democratic year,  tells me these states may be lost.  Turning into Missouri...

    Cordray hasn't lost yet,  but it's not looking great. 
    no official totals yet but turnout was 50% or so..... wwhich for Ohio means approx 4 million stayed home.
    My polling place was not busy at all and I’m in Franklin county which Cordray won. Cordray is the first Democrat I’ve voted for Governor. I’ve never been a fan of Mike Dewine
    I grew up in Cleveland and I just don't understand what has happened to Ohio.  My guess is that so many young people grew up, went to school and left the state for good.  That's what I did.  It's been fading redder and redder for several years so I'm guessing it's an aging state.
     
    BTW, as a Democrat, I probably would have voted for Kasich too.  I have a lot of respect for the guy, even if I don't agree with him on everything.  
    Kasich would have beaten Trump in a heads up primary... Trump benefitted from 10 names being on the ballot so he could win states with his "outsider" support of 30% while the rest of the field split the moderate/establishment vote
  • mrussel1
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    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    KC138045 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    On a more dour note,  the losses in Florida and Ohio,  in a democratic year,  tells me these states may be lost.  Turning into Missouri...

    Cordray hasn't lost yet,  but it's not looking great. 
    no official totals yet but turnout was 50% or so..... wwhich for Ohio means approx 4 million stayed home.
    My polling place was not busy at all and I’m in Franklin county which Cordray won. Cordray is the first Democrat I’ve voted for Governor. I’ve never been a fan of Mike Dewine
    I grew up in Cleveland and I just don't understand what has happened to Ohio.  My guess is that so many young people grew up, went to school and left the state for good.  That's what I did.  It's been fading redder and redder for several years so I'm guessing it's an aging state.
     
    BTW, as a Democrat, I probably would have voted for Kasich too.  I have a lot of respect for the guy, even if I don't agree with him on everything.  
    Kasich would have beaten Trump in a heads up primary... Trump benefitted from 10 names being on the ballot so he could win states with his "outsider" support of 30% while the rest of the field split the moderate/establishment vote
    Maybe, maybe not.  I have no faith in the Republican base to be rational and reasonable.  Now if they ran against each other in a general (without a 3rd party) it would be a thumping of epic proportions I believe.  Kasich is a true right of center moderate.  
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Holy shit.  Pelosi Is 78 and Feinstein is 85.  Not to mention those olds republicans who have been there forever, highlights the need for term limits.
    Why?
    The only thing worse than a politician are career politicians...
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,203
    Meltdown99 said:
    Holy shit.  Pelosi Is 78 and Feinstein is 85.  Not to mention those olds republicans who have been there forever, highlights the need for term limits.
    Time for them to retire.  Terms limits are key.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Holy shit.  Pelosi Is 78 and Feinstein is 85.  Not to mention those olds republicans who have been there forever, highlights the need for term limits.
    Time for them to retire.  Terms limits are key.
    Elections are term limits. You see the repub house these last two years? That’s what inexperience gets you.
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  • OnWis97
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    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ah, Team Trump Treason, sir? Repubs don’t vote for the opposing party’s speaker.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060162807960870913
    Trump wants Pelosi because he knows her name is poison and helps the GOP in 2020

     Democrats will fuck this up, no doubt
    Probably.  Many seem to want to hand it to her like they did with Hillary.  But there are some that want a change.
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  • ConorKavanagh
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    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
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  • Jason P
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    I think each party having control of Congress is a preferred outcome, at least for those in the middle that don’t obsess over a wall or impeachment. 
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