Is America the greatest country in the world?

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    my2hands said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Would the greatest country in the world have serious problems with voter supression and a thing called "gerrymandering" ?
    Sure, why not? Humans do human type of shit 
    Maybe try a bit harder with being "humane" than "human" then.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    my2hands said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Would the greatest country in the world have serious problems with voter supression and a thing called "gerrymandering" ?
    Sure, why not? Humans do human type of shit 
    Maybe try a bit harder with being "humane" than "human" then.
    Well humans on all continents are pretty inhumane.

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  • brianlux
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    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    It might help if we chose one definition:

    great
    adjective
    1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average
    2. of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above the normal or average.



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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    Total GDP is highest, but as per capital GDP it’s only the 19th.

    As with everything, there are many ways to look at an issue.  
     
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    Total GDP is highest, but as per capital GDP it’s only the 19th.

    As with everything, there are many ways to look at an issue.  
     
    I concur.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    It might help if we chose one definition:

    great
    adjective
    1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average
    2. of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above the normal or average.



    Exactly :)
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    It might help if we chose one definition:

    great
    adjective
    1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average
    2. of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above the normal or average.



    Are we talking weight, then? 
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  • rgambs
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    Yeah, we are absolutely the greatest then!
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    40 freaking percent!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,519
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    yeah, but I assume we're talking about overall, not just one category. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    yeah, but I assume we're talking about overall, not just one category. 
    Oh, didn’t realize I was the only one pointing out specific things that make a country great...or not. 
    /s
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    By what measure OP?
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  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    Seeing all the twitter stories (which may not be true) about voting machines not having power and places not having paper ballots on election day I am starting to think America may be the greatest at corruption? 
    Or at least would be better when it becomes a democracy?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    When do the results start coming in...

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Meltdown99 said:
    When do the results start coming in...

    5pm Pacific I think?
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  • pjhawks
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    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited November 2018
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Because America makes it so damned easy to live there without documentation, compared to other first world nations. Also, it's the closest 1st world nation to Mexico and central and south America.
    The rhetoric against this caravan is HORRIFIC. l actually think it's fucking sadistic, no shit. And now there are apparently 100s of gun toting Trumpsters calling themselves a militia and camping out at the fucking border. I can't even think of a way to adequately express how sickened I am about these disgusting pieces of shit rallying against the caravan the way they are.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Geography? Oceans and land mass?
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