Canadian Politics Redux

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So weed is legal or decriminalized? If legal what are the restrictions? I know I can google it but I like engaging in conversation. 
    Fully legal. The restrictions differ by province. The federal government gave the basic foundation, and all provinces must honor that, but as far as where you can smoke it outside of your home, whether or not you can grow it at home, who can sell it (i.e. government stores only or private retail stores as well as government stores allowed), and stuff like that were determined by each provincial government as they saw fit.
    I'm happy about BC's laws surrounding it. They are all reasonable and serve the economy well IMO, and not overly restrictive.
    So where can you buy it in bc? Province run shops?
    Both government and private retailers who meet the requirements for the licenses - things like being far enough away from schools and shit like that, and obviously there are licensing fees. Plus online purchases (so obviously it is now legal to mail weed via Canada Post).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,142
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So weed is legal or decriminalized? If legal what are the restrictions? I know I can google it but I like engaging in conversation. 
    Fully legal. The restrictions differ by province. The federal government gave the basic foundation, and all provinces must honor that, but as far as where you can smoke it outside of your home, whether or not you can grow it at home, who can sell it (i.e. government stores only or private retail stores as well as government stores allowed), and stuff like that were determined by each provincial government as they saw fit.
    I'm happy about BC's laws surrounding it. They are all reasonable and serve the economy well IMO, and not overly restrictive.
    So where can you buy it in bc? Province run shops?
    Both government and private retailers (who meet the requirements for the licenses - things like being far enough away from schools and shit like that, and obviously there are licensing fees), plus online purchases (so obviously it is now legal to mail weed via Canada Post).
    Do you need to be a Canadian resident or can a 40 year old guy from new jersey head to bc and smoke? 21 or 18?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So weed is legal or decriminalized? If legal what are the restrictions? I know I can google it but I like engaging in conversation. 
    Fully legal. The restrictions differ by province. The federal government gave the basic foundation, and all provinces must honor that, but as far as where you can smoke it outside of your home, whether or not you can grow it at home, who can sell it (i.e. government stores only or private retail stores as well as government stores allowed), and stuff like that were determined by each provincial government as they saw fit.
    I'm happy about BC's laws surrounding it. They are all reasonable and serve the economy well IMO, and not overly restrictive.
    So where can you buy it in bc? Province run shops?
    Both government and private retailers (who meet the requirements for the licenses - things like being far enough away from schools and shit like that, and obviously there are licensing fees), plus online purchases (so obviously it is now legal to mail weed via Canada Post).
    Do you need to be a Canadian resident or can a 40 year old guy from new jersey head to bc and smoke? 21 or 18?
    No, people from anywhere can legally buy and smoke within Canada, following the rules particular to each province (and some other rules may exist within certain municipalities, namely surrounding where you're allowed to smoke in public, although some provinces have allowed individual municipalities to bail out, basically - apparently some aren't allowing any stores within their boundaries. We'll see how that pans out. Most are not doing that, fortunately, and they aren't allowed to keep people from using as far as I know). The age limits ended up matching the drinking age limits in every province I think. So in BC that's 19. In Alberta I think it's 18.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    Here is BC's first government weed store, in Kamloops. Lol, nice and to the point I think. Many more are gearing up to open over the coming weeks and months (and in Vancouver all the grey zone pot shops are still operating while they move towards being legally licensed (or not). And the government online weed store opened at 12:01AM this morning.


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So weed is legal or decriminalized? If legal what are the restrictions? I know I can google it but I like engaging in conversation. 
    Fully legal. The restrictions differ by province. The federal government gave the basic foundation, and all provinces must honor that, but as far as where you can smoke it outside of your home, whether or not you can grow it at home, who can sell it (i.e. government stores only or private retail stores as well as government stores allowed), and stuff like that were determined by each provincial government as they saw fit.
    I'm happy about BC's laws surrounding it. They are all reasonable and serve the economy well IMO, and not overly restrictive.
    So where can you buy it in bc? Province run shops?
    Both government and private retailers (who meet the requirements for the licenses - things like being far enough away from schools and shit like that, and obviously there are licensing fees), plus online purchases (so obviously it is now legal to mail weed via Canada Post).
    Do you need to be a Canadian resident or can a 40 year old guy from new jersey head to bc and smoke? 21 or 18?
    No, people from anywhere can legally buy and smoke within Canada, following the rules particular to each province (and some other rules may exist within certain municipalities, namely surrounding where you're allowed to smoke in public, although some provinces have allowed individual municipalities to bail out, basically - apparently some aren't allowing any stores within their boundaries. We'll see how that pans out. Most are not doing that, fortunately, and they aren't allowed to keep people from using as far as I know). The age limits ended up matching the drinking age limits in every province I think. So in BC that's 19. In Alberta I think it's 18.
    Yup, 18 here in Alberta. I went to https://albertacannabis.org/ last night at midnight and ordered some. Will be here by Friday via Canada Post. Everything went quite smoothly, I was impressed.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    edited October 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Here is BC's first government weed store, in Kamloops. Lol, nice and to the point I think. Many more are gearing up to open over the coming weeks and months (and in Vancouver all the grey zone pot shops are still operating while they move towards being legally licensed (or not). And the government online weed store opened at 12:01AM this morning.


    I don't know if you have 7-Eleven stores up there (they may call them something different due to the metric system), but I know a prime location for one
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    Jason P said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Here is BC's first government weed store, in Kamloops. Lol, nice and to the point I think. Many more are gearing up to open over the coming weeks and months (and in Vancouver all the grey zone pot shops are still operating while they move towards being legally licensed (or not). And the government online weed store opened at 12:01AM this morning.


    I don't know if you have 7-Eleven stores up there (they may call them something different due to the metric system), but I know a prime location for one
    Haha! Yes, we have 7-11, and that's a good idea, lol.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada is moving to ban all forms of bestiality??  I did not realize this was such a big problem?  Who knew.  But it makes sense, Canada has a lot of farms and pet owners...good move Mr Government.  I am assuming the wild animals can fend for themselves.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    Canada is moving to ban all forms of bestiality??  I did not realize this was such a big problem?  Who knew.  But it makes sense, Canada has a lot of farms and pet owners...good move Mr Government.  I am assuming the wild animals can fend for themselves.
    Really? I'm surprised it wasn't banned already.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Canada is moving to ban all forms of bestiality??  I did not realize this was such a big problem?  Who knew.  But it makes sense, Canada has a lot of farms and pet owners...good move Mr Government.  I am assuming the wild animals can fend for themselves.
    Really? I'm surprised it wasn't banned already.
    I guess not.  I never would have thought bestiality was an issue.  But there are a lot of pervs out pervs out there.  
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    PJ_Soul said:
    Canada is moving to ban all forms of bestiality??  I did not realize this was such a big problem?  Who knew.  But it makes sense, Canada has a lot of farms and pet owners...good move Mr Government.  I am assuming the wild animals can fend for themselves.
    Really? I'm surprised it wasn't banned already.
    I guess not.  I never would have thought bestiality was an issue.  But there are a lot of pervs out pervs out there.  
    There are tons of bestiality porn vids on the internet apparently, so yeah, it's happening.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Canada is moving to ban all forms of bestiality??  I did not realize this was such a big problem?  Who knew.  But it makes sense, Canada has a lot of farms and pet owners...good move Mr Government.  I am assuming the wild animals can fend for themselves.
    Really? I'm surprised it wasn't banned already.
    I guess not.  I never would have thought bestiality was an issue.  But there are a lot of pervs out pervs out there.  
    There are tons of bestiality porn vids on the internet apparently, so yeah, it's happening.
    Really?  Wow... Some people are just twisted.  
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I see former PM Mulroney is hopping on the Cannabis bandwagon.  As PM he likely fought tooth and nail to keep it legal, of course, his campaign likely received money from big pharma ...  now he sees an opportunity to profit off cannabis...lol...a true politician, following the money.  The Ontario Cannabis Store start at 7.95/ gram taxes included...cheaper than I expected and inline with pricing through my medicinal supplier.  The store also has everything you need from bongs to cleaners...however, that stuff is pricier through them than my local head shop.  No physical stores until April 1.  Then I expect there will plenty of stores after that.  I guess NB has the most expensive Cannabis, $13/gram.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited October 2018
    I see former PM Mulroney is hopping on the Cannabis bandwagon.  As PM he likely fought tooth and nail to keep it legal, of course, his campaign likely received money from big pharma ...  now he sees an opportunity to profit off cannabis...lol...a true politician, following the money.  The Ontario Cannabis Store start at 7.95/ gram taxes included...cheaper than I expected and inline with pricing through my medicinal supplier.  The store also has everything you need from bongs to cleaners...however, that stuff is pricier through them than my local head shop.  No physical stores until April 1.  Then I expect there will plenty of stores after that.  I guess NB has the most expensive Cannabis, $13/gram.
    I don't remember Mulroney fighting legalization tooth and nail. It really wasn't a big topic of conversation at that time either way. Wasn't he the PM who brokered NAFTA? At that time, I doubt the Canadian government was about to touch the legalization issue with a 10 foot pole because of that. Luckily, times have changed since then, and the issue naturally rose to a more prominent position in the political discussion.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    I see former PM Mulroney is hopping on the Cannabis bandwagon.  As PM he likely fought tooth and nail to keep it legal, of course, his campaign likely received money from big pharma ...  now he sees an opportunity to profit off cannabis...lol...a true politician, following the money.  The Ontario Cannabis Store start at 7.95/ gram taxes included...cheaper than I expected and inline with pricing through my medicinal supplier.  The store also has everything you need from bongs to cleaners...however, that stuff is pricier through them than my local head shop.  No physical stores until April 1.  Then I expect there will plenty of stores after that.  I guess NB has the most expensive Cannabis, $13/gram.
    I don't remember Mulroney fighting legalization tooth and nail. It really wasn't a big topic of conversation at that time either way. Wasn't he the PM who brokered NAFTA? At that time, I doubt the Canadian government was about to touch the legalization issue with a 10 foot pole because of that. Luckily, times have changed since then, and the issue naturally rose to a more prominent position in the political discussion.
    The point is he is a douche.  He was likely taking Big Pharma money to keep it illegal.  Now he wants to capitalise on legalization.  The man has no principles...and NAFTA lead to us adding Mexico, so the original free trade was just the beginning of the gutting of Ontario's manufacturing.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited October 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    I see former PM Mulroney is hopping on the Cannabis bandwagon.  As PM he likely fought tooth and nail to keep it legal, of course, his campaign likely received money from big pharma ...  now he sees an opportunity to profit off cannabis...lol...a true politician, following the money.  The Ontario Cannabis Store start at 7.95/ gram taxes included...cheaper than I expected and inline with pricing through my medicinal supplier.  The store also has everything you need from bongs to cleaners...however, that stuff is pricier through them than my local head shop.  No physical stores until April 1.  Then I expect there will plenty of stores after that.  I guess NB has the most expensive Cannabis, $13/gram.
    I don't remember Mulroney fighting legalization tooth and nail. It really wasn't a big topic of conversation at that time either way. Wasn't he the PM who brokered NAFTA? At that time, I doubt the Canadian government was about to touch the legalization issue with a 10 foot pole because of that. Luckily, times have changed since then, and the issue naturally rose to a more prominent position in the political discussion.
    The point is he is a douche.  He was likely taking Big Pharma money to keep it illegal.  Now he wants to capitalise on legalization.  The man has no principles...and NAFTA lead to us adding Mexico, so the original free trade was just the beginning of the gutting of Ontario's manufacturing.
    Whatever. I was responding to your guess that he fought legalization tooth and nail. I have never seen anything suggesting that's true. If you have evidence of that, I would be interested in seeing it. Because if he didn't, then he can't be called a hypocrite just for investing in the industry (I have no interest in defending Mulroney btw).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJ_Soul said:
    I see former PM Mulroney is hopping on the Cannabis bandwagon.  As PM he likely fought tooth and nail to keep it legal, of course, his campaign likely received money from big pharma ...  now he sees an opportunity to profit off cannabis...lol...a true politician, following the money.  The Ontario Cannabis Store start at 7.95/ gram taxes included...cheaper than I expected and inline with pricing through my medicinal supplier.  The store also has everything you need from bongs to cleaners...however, that stuff is pricier through them than my local head shop.  No physical stores until April 1.  Then I expect there will plenty of stores after that.  I guess NB has the most expensive Cannabis, $13/gram.
    I don't remember Mulroney fighting legalization tooth and nail. It really wasn't a big topic of conversation at that time either way. Wasn't he the PM who brokered NAFTA? At that time, I doubt the Canadian government was about to touch the legalization issue with a 10 foot pole because of that. Luckily, times have changed since then, and the issue naturally rose to a more prominent position in the political discussion.
    The point is he is a douche.  He was likely taking Big Pharma money to keep it illegal.  Now he wants to capitalise on legalization.  The man has no principles...and NAFTA lead to us adding Mexico, so the original free trade was just the beginning of the gutting of Ontario's manufacturing.
    You think it “likely” that he took money to keep pot illegal, and so call him a hypocrite based on this? Seems a pretty big leap without any proof. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    PJ_Soul said:
    I see former PM Mulroney is hopping on the Cannabis bandwagon.  As PM he likely fought tooth and nail to keep it legal, of course, his campaign likely received money from big pharma ...  now he sees an opportunity to profit off cannabis...lol...a true politician, following the money.  The Ontario Cannabis Store start at 7.95/ gram taxes included...cheaper than I expected and inline with pricing through my medicinal supplier.  The store also has everything you need from bongs to cleaners...however, that stuff is pricier through them than my local head shop.  No physical stores until April 1.  Then I expect there will plenty of stores after that.  I guess NB has the most expensive Cannabis, $13/gram.
    I don't remember Mulroney fighting legalization tooth and nail. It really wasn't a big topic of conversation at that time either way. Wasn't he the PM who brokered NAFTA? At that time, I doubt the Canadian government was about to touch the legalization issue with a 10 foot pole because of that. Luckily, times have changed since then, and the issue naturally rose to a more prominent position in the political discussion.
    The point is he is a douche.  He was likely taking Big Pharma money to keep it illegal.  Now he wants to capitalise on legalization.  The man has no principles...and NAFTA lead to us adding Mexico, so the original free trade was just the beginning of the gutting of Ontario's manufacturing.
    You think it “likely” that he took money to keep pot illegal, and so call him a hypocrite based on this? Seems a pretty big leap without any proof. 
    Yeah, agreed. Meltdown, I hope this isn't how you always form your opinions. Just with guesses and random assumptions.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    '(It's) the way to go': Brian Mulroney explains his about-face on cannabis


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mulroney-pot-marijuana-investment-1.4868995?cmp=rss?cmp=FB_Post_News&fbclid=IwAR2AwOV3FQzGLSS7FsMJpj8_bygFYFgCWevRHkI8rm4D8d4J_siwtjjqzzo

    Former prime minister Brian Mulroney, whose government once introduced legislation to keep marijuana in the same legal category as heroin.

    I guess I was wrong.  Cannabis was never on Mulroney's radar as PM ...
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