Canadian Politics Redux

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 48,066

    Yes, it's amazing! And apparently anything can be political. I saw someone mad about it on facebook, because they think not putting Terry Fox on the coin, and choosing a First Nations artist instead, is politically correct pandering by the government. And of course, when someone pointed out that Terry Fox was already on a loonie in 2005, the idiot didn't respond, lol.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
    PJ_Soul said:

    Yes, it's amazing! And apparently anything can be political. I saw someone mad about it on facebook, because they think not putting Terry Fox on the coin, and choosing a First Nations artist instead, is politically correct pandering by the government. And of course, when someone pointed out that Terry Fox was already on a loonie in 2005, the idiot didn't respond, lol.
    Ha!

    As I was reading your post, I was thinking “wasn’t Terry Fox already on a coin.....?”
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,016
    Thoughts on Trump's imposed tariffs?  

    I think you're going to see opinions on both sides but ultimately it's hard not to see what is 100% obvious... and that is that Trump is desperate for any kind of talking point that makes him look better before the election.  He is throwing shit against a wall and hoping it sticks. 

    If they change their mind before August 16th, which is what Canada is hoping for.... Trump is going to look dumber than he already does.. which is astonishing.  If the tariffs go through ... we enter a harmful trade war which again... makes Trump look dumb for harming his people during a pandemic that slowed down the economy to a crawl.  Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. 

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,555

  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,320
    Haven’t been following this thread but this news regarding our Governor General is troubling. I believe that constitutional monarchies are stronger democracies and therefore the GG is an important position. However, the reports on frivolous spending and horrible treatment of staff at Rideau Hall is unacceptable and quite frankly very un-Canadian. 
    Trudeau must act quickly and remove her from her post.  It’s another question of ethics within his government. 
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  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,320
    Parksy said:
    Thoughts on Trump's imposed tariffs?  

    I think you're going to see opinions on both sides but ultimately it's hard not to see what is 100% obvious... and that is that Trump is desperate for any kind of talking point that makes him look better before the election.  He is throwing shit against a wall and hoping it sticks. 

    If they change their mind before August 16th, which is what Canada is hoping for.... Trump is going to look dumber than he already does.. which is astonishing.  If the tariffs go through ... we enter a harmful trade war which again... makes Trump look dumb for harming his people during a pandemic that slowed down the economy to a crawl.  Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. 

    Probably more to do with this:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OMNSQzK883s
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin TorontoPosts: 1,412
    So clearly some within the administration actually do understand how to manage conflicts of interest (or the appearance of one, which is just as damning to many).  It begs the question, was Trudeau advised to step aside on the WE file and if so did he ignore his advisers?

    https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-government-paying-84m-to-firm-employing-katie-telfords-husband-to-manage-rent-assistance-aid-program/wcm/51a746f9-45ba-48ac-b22c-4abdbfb9349f/
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
    Haven’t been following this thread but this news regarding our Governor General is troubling. I believe that constitutional monarchies are stronger democracies and therefore the GG is an important position. However, the reports on frivolous spending and horrible treatment of staff at Rideau Hall is unacceptable and quite frankly very un-Canadian. 
    Trudeau must act quickly and remove her from her post.  It’s another question of ethics within his government. 
    I don’t actually think he can. She’s the Queen’s representative - I think that only the Queen can remove her, correct? 

    Or she can quit, of course 
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  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,320
    edited August 10
    Haven’t been following this thread but this news regarding our Governor General is troubling. I believe that constitutional monarchies are stronger democracies and therefore the GG is an important position. However, the reports on frivolous spending and horrible treatment of staff at Rideau Hall is unacceptable and quite frankly very un-Canadian. 
    Trudeau must act quickly and remove her from her post.  It’s another question of ethics within his government. 
    I don’t actually think he can. She’s the Queen’s representative - I think that only the Queen can remove her, correct? 

    Or she can quit, of course 
    That is correct, however, the GG is appointed by the Queen on the advice of the PM. Removal would be the same.

    From the Act approved by the Senate:
    Procedure for removal
    5. The Prime Minister of Canada may only advise Her Majesty to remove the Governor General from office in accordance with the procedure set out in Schedule 2.
    Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
    Haven’t been following this thread but this news regarding our Governor General is troubling. I believe that constitutional monarchies are stronger democracies and therefore the GG is an important position. However, the reports on frivolous spending and horrible treatment of staff at Rideau Hall is unacceptable and quite frankly very un-Canadian. 
    Trudeau must act quickly and remove her from her post.  It’s another question of ethics within his government. 
    I don’t actually think he can. She’s the Queen’s representative - I think that only the Queen can remove her, correct? 

    Or she can quit, of course 
    That is correct, however, the GG is appointed by the Queen on the advice of the PM. Removal would be the same.

    From the Act approved by the Senate:
    Procedure for removal
    5. The Prime Minister of Canada may only advise Her Majesty to remove the Governor General from office in accordance with the procedure set out in Schedule 2.

    I disagree with actually removing her from her post until an investigation has been completed, and would also suspect that Trudeau would be loath to approach the Queen to do so unless he had as much information as is reasonably possible to get. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
    I also suspect that the usual strategies and work ethic of an astronaut don’t mesh all that well with the civil service. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,555
    As far as I’m concerned it’s time to decolonize and tell The Queen to go fuck herself...

    the Governor General position is wasted tax $$$.


  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,320
    As far as I’m concerned it’s time to decolonize and tell The Queen to go fuck herself...

    the Governor General position is wasted tax $$$.


    Yeah that’s right. It would be a lot better if Trudeau had the same level of power as Trump **eyes rolling**. There is never any problems in the Republics of the world. 

    Constitutional Monarchies are far better systems. Not perfect (nothing is) but better. 
    “We’re keepin it loose, maybe not Grateful Dead loose... but like Rolling Stones loose”
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,320
    Haven’t been following this thread but this news regarding our Governor General is troubling. I believe that constitutional monarchies are stronger democracies and therefore the GG is an important position. However, the reports on frivolous spending and horrible treatment of staff at Rideau Hall is unacceptable and quite frankly very un-Canadian. 
    Trudeau must act quickly and remove her from her post.  It’s another question of ethics within his government. 
    I don’t actually think he can. She’s the Queen’s representative - I think that only the Queen can remove her, correct? 

    Or she can quit, of course 
    That is correct, however, the GG is appointed by the Queen on the advice of the PM. Removal would be the same.

    From the Act approved by the Senate:
    Procedure for removal
    5. The Prime Minister of Canada may only advise Her Majesty to remove the Governor General from office in accordance with the procedure set out in Schedule 2.

    I disagree with actually removing her from her post until an investigation has been completed, and would also suspect that Trudeau would be loath to approach the Queen to do so unless he had as much information as is reasonably possible to get. 
    There would have to be a full investigation of course. I would assume that is happening already. 
    Of course Trudeau doesn’t WANT to do this, my point was he was his selection (advises the Queen to appoint her) and she appears to be a train wreck. Therefore, she is linked to him and it’s another ethical black eye on his government. 

    It’s not going to look good either way, but Trudeau seems to be able to apologize to everyone or shift blame where it doesn’t really belong. If he advised the Queen to remove her, he may get away unscathed again. 
    “We’re keepin it loose, maybe not Grateful Dead loose... but like Rolling Stones loose”
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
    Haven’t been following this thread but this news regarding our Governor General is troubling. I believe that constitutional monarchies are stronger democracies and therefore the GG is an important position. However, the reports on frivolous spending and horrible treatment of staff at Rideau Hall is unacceptable and quite frankly very un-Canadian. 
    Trudeau must act quickly and remove her from her post.  It’s another question of ethics within his government. 
    I don’t actually think he can. She’s the Queen’s representative - I think that only the Queen can remove her, correct? 

    Or she can quit, of course 
    That is correct, however, the GG is appointed by the Queen on the advice of the PM. Removal would be the same.

    From the Act approved by the Senate:
    Procedure for removal
    5. The Prime Minister of Canada may only advise Her Majesty to remove the Governor General from office in accordance with the procedure set out in Schedule 2.

    I disagree with actually removing her from her post until an investigation has been completed, and would also suspect that Trudeau would be loath to approach the Queen to do so unless he had as much information as is reasonably possible to get. 
    There would have to be a full investigation of course. I would assume that is happening already. 
    Of course Trudeau doesn’t WANT to do this, my point was he was his selection (advises the Queen to appoint her) and she appears to be a train wreck. Therefore, she is linked to him and it’s another ethical black eye on his government. 

    It’s not going to look good either way, but Trudeau seems to be able to apologize to everyone or shift blame where it doesn’t really belong. If he advised the Queen to remove her, he may get away unscathed again. 
    So, if an investigation supports the allegations then I agree he needs to request her removal. I understood from your comment that you want her removed immediately, before an investigation is complete. 
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