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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Common sense prevails:

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/refugee-board-orders-deportation-of-isis-supporter-who-targeted-ontario-bridge/ar-BBOWMjQ?ocid=spartanntp
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Monika Schaefer, Ex-Green Candidate And Alberta Holocaust Denier, Convicted In Germany
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/27/monika-schaefer-germany_a_23573291/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000008&fbclid=IwAR0wpoJCDxp-T_07sGx1pHuOl458E70gjNpDIee-_OarnjdDRkt80Vl6c68
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    Good.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Locked up for her beliefs? 

    God Bless America lol
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,141
    my2hands said:
    Locked up for her beliefs? 

    God Bless America lol
    That is crazy to me.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    Monika Schaefer, Ex-Green Candidate And Alberta Holocaust Denier, Convicted In Germany
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/27/monika-schaefer-germany_a_23573291/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000008&fbclid=IwAR0wpoJCDxp-T_07sGx1pHuOl458E70gjNpDIee-_OarnjdDRkt80Vl6c68
    Germany is right to approach antisemitism and hate speech/inciting hatred in this fashion. Not that it will change her views, but if it helps prevent this from being spewed in a way that puts others at risk, then it’s worth it. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I never heard of her until today.  I am more curious as to why these political parties do not vet their candidates better...
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    I never heard of her until today.  I am more curious as to why these political parties do not vet their candidates better...

    I had not either, but she has been in the news over the past 3 or 4 years. It seems she came to her Holocaust-denying views later in life. I believe she first posted about them in 2015. The Green party disavowed her right away, but she had in fact already quit them a few months prior. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    And we are ok with locking up someone strictly for their beliefs?

    Yeah, not me. 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited October 2018
    my2hands said:
    And we are ok with locking up someone strictly for their beliefs?

    Yeah, not me. 
    You'll have to take that up with Germany.   I was more curious as to why these political don't vet their candidates better.  I am not OK with locking people up for their beliefs...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    my2hands said:
    And we are ok with locking up someone strictly for their beliefs?

    Yeah, not me. 
    You'll have to take that up with Germany.   I was more curious as to why these political don't vet their candidates better.  I am not OK with locking people up for their beliefs...
    “Beliefs” are only just beliefs if you’re not acting on them.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    my2hands said:
    And we are ok with locking up someone strictly for their beliefs?

    Yeah, not me. 
    Depends what those beliefs are.

    If those beliefs are to commit mass murder at soft targets in the name of some hokey pokey religion... then yes. For sure.

    I take it you'd prefer them to be able to play their hand first? Then lock them up?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Tories’ motion to ‘serve justice’ against returning Canadian ISIS members passes 280-1


    https://globalnews.ca/news/4588414/tories-motion-canadian-isis-members/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=980CKNW&fbclid=IwAR34agQF8ZGi-B9hB7VomDzXqmO0KJL_tfkQty__J0xBggmIxmzRtJdWOCM
    Common sense prevails!

    One idiot. One stupid idiot in opposition. Lol. What an idiot.

    Give her another drink...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited October 2018
    my2hands said:
    Locked up for her beliefs? 

    God Bless America lol
    She wasn't in America.... But there are (crappy, ill-defined) laws against incitement of hate in America too. Are you defending hate speech? Because what she was doing was hate speech under German law.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Locked up for her beliefs? 

    God Bless America lol
    She wasn't in America.... But there are (crappy, ill-defined) laws against incitement of hate in America too. Are you defending hate speech? Because what she was doing was hate speech under German law.
    I'm not defending hate speech, but I'm definitely defending the right to hate speech

    There are laws in the US against inciting violence,  but that is not what is considered hate speech, and that is not what this woman did

    You have a right to free speech, as long as you're not dumb to actually try it......

    No way in hell that woman should be in prison... AMT folks are now fans of the thought police? Interesting development :)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    And we are ok with locking up someone strictly for their beliefs?

    Yeah, not me. 
    Depends what those beliefs are.

    If those beliefs are to commit mass murder at soft targets in the name of some hokey pokey religion... then yes. For sure.

    I take it you'd prefer them to be able to play their hand first? Then lock them up?
    threatening violence is a crime,  and is different than hate speech... and this woman did neither

    You can walk around saying you hate me all day... you cant say you're going to kill me... big difference
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Chatham-born man shares family's Syrian ordeal

    https://www.chathamdailynews.ca/news/local-news/chatham-born-man-shares-familys-syrian-ordeal

    Hopefully, the Kurds do the world a favour and delete this scum from the planet...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,748
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Locked up for her beliefs? 

    God Bless America lol
    She wasn't in America.... But there are (crappy, ill-defined) laws against incitement of hate in America too. Are you defending hate speech? Because what she was doing was hate speech under German law.
    I'm not defending hate speech, but I'm definitely defending the right to hate speech

    There are laws in the US against inciting violence,  but that is not what is considered hate speech, and that is not what this woman did

    You have a right to free speech, as long as you're not dumb to actually try it......

    No way in hell that woman should be in prison... AMT folks are now fans of the thought police? Interesting development :)
    depends on the language of the laws in germany and what she actually said in those videos. the link that was posted didn't give much detail. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Residents who admit to pot use turned away at U.S. border, says Estevan, Sask., mayor

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/estevan-cannabis-smoke-border-u-s-1.4883091?fbclid=IwAR3gABDvW39jNMYeTQhnFnKeDuKlcO0KSWxSBJIITZy-GLulZdVFsN0FwWI
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Locked up for her beliefs? 

    God Bless America lol
    She wasn't in America.... But there are (crappy, ill-defined) laws against incitement of hate in America too. Are you defending hate speech? Because what she was doing was hate speech under German law.
    I'm not defending hate speech, but I'm definitely defending the right to hate speech

    There are laws in the US against inciting violence,  but that is not what is considered hate speech, and that is not what this woman did

    You have a right to free speech, as long as you're not dumb to actually try it......

    No way in hell that woman should be in prison... AMT folks are now fans of the thought police? Interesting development :)
    WTF? I'm sure you know that's not the case.

    I support German laws about this, that's all, because they are in a very unique position when it comes to this kind of thing. I feel that those who refuse to acknowledge that are refusing to admit that they really don't understand how the holocaust affected that nation on a psychological level.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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