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lolobugg · October 2018

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #

EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

tempo_n_groove · October 2018

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

You should have jumped on that tube amp!

lolobugg · October 2018

tempo_n_groove said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

You should have jumped on that tube amp!

Chris, I had it in my possession and it's what I always wanted but it was high maintenance, man. The guy that owned it built it himself for a kit in the 60s. I just settled for a phono tube preamp. almost as good.

mrussel1 · October 2018

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Thanks! That's a beauty. 60 wpc is pretty strong for back then. What is it powering today, towers or books? I need them to power some large towers with 90db of sensitivity. They were powered by my Yamaha which 'claims' 140 wpc (2 ch driven), but they didn't really sing until I hooked the Outlaw 5000 to them, which is a monster.

lolobugg · October 2018

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have   http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Thanks! That's a beauty. 60 wpc is pretty strong for back then. What is it powering today, towers or books? I need them to power some large towers with 90db of sensitivity. They were powered by my Yamaha which 'claims' 140 wpc (2 ch driven), but they didn't really sing until I hooked the Outlaw 5000 to them, which is a monster.

mine are pushing some dual 8" towers. and it is sensitive has hell. You are right about those old amps. They kicked out some power. I would grab that 3000/a if it is for the right price. try it and see. I bet it will handle those towers just fine.

dudeman · October 2018

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Nice amp, that is. Something to consider here in the specs: 60 wpc into 8 ohms, 80 wpc into 4 ohms, yet they describe this unit as a 200 watt amplifier? Maybe at 2 ohms, if it can safely drive that load. I'd be interested to see THD numbers with all channels driven at higher levels. Marketing has always been a little out of hand for audio companies.

That said, even with 0.3% THD, a number not particularly impressive by today's standards, it likely sounds better than a lot of modern amps with tighter stats.

Sound is so subjective but it seems like a lot of people prefer a little distortion, if it's pleasant. Otherwise, CD would still be the preferred format over vinyl. On paper, CD outperforms vinyl in every category, but records still sound better to me.

Go figure.

tempo_n_groove · October 2018

lolobugg said:

tempo_n_groove said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

You should have jumped on that tube amp!

Chris, I had it in my possession and it's what I always wanted but it was high maintenance, man. The guy that owned it built it himself for a kit in the 60s. I just settled for a phono tube preamp. almost as good.

My uncle made one himself too. He keeps telling me that he needs to give it to me. So when I do get it I'll let you know..

mrussel1 · October 2018

dudeman said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Nice amp, that is. Something to consider here in the specs: 60 wpc into 8 ohms, 80 wpc into 4 ohms, yet they describe this unit as a 200 watt amplifier? Maybe at 2 ohms, if it can safely drive that load. I'd be interested to see THD numbers with all channels driven at higher levels. Marketing has always been a little out of hand for audio companies.

That said, even with 0.3% THD, a number not particularly impressive by today's standards, it likely sounds better than a lot of modern amps with tighter stats.

Sound is so subjective but it seems like a lot of people prefer a little distortion, if it's pleasant. Otherwise, CD would still be the preferred format over vinyl. On paper, CD outperforms vinyl in every category, but records still sound better to me.

Go figure.

So do you believe that 45 wpc into 8ohm on a vintage Sansui would drive my 683s effectively? I know using today's ratings, that would be terribly under powered.

mrussel1 · October 2018

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have   http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Thanks! That's a beauty. 60 wpc is pretty strong for back then. What is it powering today, towers or books? I need them to power some large towers with 90db of sensitivity. They were powered by my Yamaha which 'claims' 140 wpc (2 ch driven), but they didn't really sing until I hooked the Outlaw 5000 to them, which is a monster.

mine are pushing some dual 8" towers. and it is sensitive has hell. You are right about those old amps. They kicked out some power. I would grab that 3000/a if it is for the right price. try it and see. I bet it will handle those towers just fine.

I think I may. The good news is that it's in a local shop, a place where I have spent too much money. They always let me take stuff home. Bad news is that it's a little bit of an ugly duckling

https://store.audio-exchange.com/listing/sansui-3000a-stereo-receiver-45-watts-per-channel/14487806

dudeman · October 2018

mrussel1 said:

dudeman said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have   http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Nice amp, that is. Something to consider here in the specs: 60 wpc into 8 ohms, 80 wpc into 4 ohms, yet they describe this unit as a 200 watt amplifier? Maybe at 2 ohms, if it can safely drive that load. I'd be interested to see THD numbers with all channels driven at higher levels. Marketing has always been a little out of hand for audio companies.

That said, even with 0.3% THD, a number not particularly impressive by today's standards, it likely sounds better than a lot of modern amps with tighter stats.

Sound is so subjective but it seems like a lot of people prefer a little distortion, if it's pleasant. Otherwise, CD would still be the preferred format over vinyl. On paper, CD outperforms vinyl in every category, but records still sound better to me.

Go figure.

So do you believe that 45 wpc into 8ohm on a vintage Sansui would drive my 683s effectively? I know using today's ratings, that would be terribly under powered.

I'm not terribly familiar with your speakers but I think you might be surprised by that 45 watts.

My CVs are pretty efficient and get uncomfortably loud being driven by the 15 WPC from my Marantz 2215b.

lolobugg · October 2018

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have   http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Thanks! That's a beauty. 60 wpc is pretty strong for back then. What is it powering today, towers or books? I need them to power some large towers with 90db of sensitivity. They were powered by my Yamaha which 'claims' 140 wpc (2 ch driven), but they didn't really sing until I hooked the Outlaw 5000 to them, which is a monster.

mine are pushing some dual 8" towers. and it is sensitive has hell. You are right about those old amps. They kicked out some power. I would grab that 3000/a if it is for the right price. try it and see. I bet it will handle those towers just fine.

I think I may. The good news is that it's in a local shop, a place where I have spent too much money. They always let me take stuff home. Bad news is that it's a little bit of an ugly duckling

https://store.audio-exchange.com/listing/sansui-3000a-stereo-receiver-45-watts-per-channel/14487806

it looks like something from post-war Japan. I dig the old tuners. let me know if you try it out!

dudeman · October 2018

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have   http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Thanks! That's a beauty. 60 wpc is pretty strong for back then. What is it powering today, towers or books? I need them to power some large towers with 90db of sensitivity. They were powered by my Yamaha which 'claims' 140 wpc (2 ch driven), but they didn't really sing until I hooked the Outlaw 5000 to them, which is a monster.

mine are pushing some dual 8" towers. and it is sensitive has hell. You are right about those old amps. They kicked out some power. I would grab that 3000/a if it is for the right price. try it and see. I bet it will handle those towers just fine.

I think I may. The good news is that it's in a local shop, a place where I have spent too much money. They always let me take stuff home. Bad news is that it's a little bit of an ugly duckling

https://store.audio-exchange.com/listing/sansui-3000a-stereo-receiver-45-watts-per-channel/14487806

A little funky looking for sure. Looks like a clean example of that model, though.

mrussel1 · October 2018

dudeman said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

mrussel1 said:

lolobugg said:

I like the pure mode for Yamaha's newer amps.
Personally I love my Sansui vintage receiver/amp over every "modern" receiver that I have ever owned. it is def more "musical" and you can't beat the raw power for pushing my Klipsch towers

What Sansui do you have? My local shop has a 3000A for sale which looks like it's in good shape. I'm struggling a bit translating how 45 wpc RMS in 70's terms translates into today's numbers.

damn, I knew you were gonna ask me. I will have to check. I got 2 Sansui's from an Estate sale. this guy was a audio engineer so he had some good stuff. I actually passed on a tube amp for the Sansui. I know it was the first solid state that Sansui release back in the early 70s. I tested it along side a "tank" from the early 80s and the older one sounded better even though it had less watts. I will try to get the model number for you when I get home. kicking myself that I don't remember the model #
EDIT: this is the model I have   http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/eight.html

Thanks! That's a beauty. 60 wpc is pretty strong for back then. What is it powering today, towers or books? I need them to power some large towers with 90db of sensitivity. They were powered by my Yamaha which 'claims' 140 wpc (2 ch driven), but they didn't really sing until I hooked the Outlaw 5000 to them, which is a monster.

mine are pushing some dual 8" towers. and it is sensitive has hell. You are right about those old amps. They kicked out some power. I would grab that 3000/a if it is for the right price. try it and see. I bet it will handle those towers just fine.

I think I may. The good news is that it's in a local shop, a place where I have spent too much money. They always let me take stuff home. Bad news is that it's a little bit of an ugly duckling

https://store.audio-exchange.com/listing/sansui-3000a-stereo-receiver-45-watts-per-channel/14487806

A little funky looking for sure. Looks like a clean example of that model, though.

I found out that these models are a fire hazard if they haven't had a specific Sansui modification. They will also fry your speakers. So now I'm probably heading up to DC this weekend to look at a Sansui 771 and Pioneer 750. They are in the same house and look clean. They are more traditional looking 70s.

dudeman · October 2018

Whoa. I hadn't heard that. Good looking out.

IIRC, the Sansui 771, and its various wattage counterparts in the same line, were marketed as the first generation of receivers that used PCBs. They were supposedly more inherently reliable than other amps of the day.

I don't know if that's really the case but I have quite a bit of experience with the smaller 661. A former colleague had one and he brought it to me to try to make it sound better. Flat and thin are how I would describe it. Not really anything I could do for him as the design doesn't lend itself well to modification.

Never heard a 771 in person but they sure are pretty with that green glow.

mrussel1 · October 2018

dudeman said:

Whoa. I hadn't heard that. Good looking out.

IIRC, the Sansui 771, and its various wattage counterparts in the same line, were marketed as the first generation of receivers that used PCBs. They were supposedly more inherently reliable than other amps of the day.

I don't know if that's really the case but I have quite a bit of experience with the smaller 661. A former colleague had one and he brought it to me to try to make it sound better. Flat and thin are how I would describe it. Not really anything I could do for him as the design doesn't lend itself well to modification.

Never heard a 771 in person but they sure are pretty with that green glow.

The 661 should be just slightly lower in power than the 771, but configured the same way, is that right? Flat and thin is not really the sound I'm going for! So you weren't a fan, eh?

dudeman · October 2018

mrussel1 said:

dudeman said:

Whoa. I hadn't heard that. Good looking out.

IIRC, the Sansui 771, and its various wattage counterparts in the same line, were marketed as the first generation of receivers that used PCBs. They were supposedly more inherently reliable than other amps of the day.

I don't know if that's really the case but I have quite a bit of experience with the smaller 661. A former colleague had one and he brought it to me to try to make it sound better. Flat and thin are how I would describe it. Not really anything I could do for him as the design doesn't lend itself well to modification.

Never heard a 771 in person but they sure are pretty with that green glow.

The 661 should be just slightly lower in power than the 771, but configured the same way, is that right? Flat and thin is not really the sound I'm going for! So you weren't a fan, eh?

Not of the one I have experience with. I assume the 771 is similar sounding.

It was a good deal for him though. He was looking at replacing a Marantz 2226b that he was pushing in-wall speakers with. The Marantz sounded great and got very loud, he just thought he needed more than 26 WPC.

After trying the 661, he went back to the 2226b and it is still using it.

FWIW, given the choice, I would take an SX-750 over the 661 I heard every single time.

The SX-750 is very similar performance-wise to the, then top of the line, SX-1250.

mrussel1 · October 2018

dudeman said:

mrussel1 said:

dudeman said:

Whoa. I hadn't heard that. Good looking out.

IIRC, the Sansui 771, and its various wattage counterparts in the same line, were marketed as the first generation of receivers that used PCBs. They were supposedly more inherently reliable than other amps of the day.

I don't know if that's really the case but I have quite a bit of experience with the smaller 661. A former colleague had one and he brought it to me to try to make it sound better. Flat and thin are how I would describe it. Not really anything I could do for him as the design doesn't lend itself well to modification.

Never heard a 771 in person but they sure are pretty with that green glow.

The 661 should be just slightly lower in power than the 771, but configured the same way, is that right? Flat and thin is not really the sound I'm going for! So you weren't a fan, eh?

Not of the one I have experience with. I assume the 771 is similar sounding.

It was a good deal for him though. He was looking at replacing a Marantz 2226b that he was pushing in-wall speakers with. The Marantz sounded great and got very loud, he just thought he needed more than 26 WPC.

After trying the 661, he went back to the 2226b and it is still using it.

FWIW, given the choice, I would take an SX-750 over the 661 I heard every single time.

The SX-750 is very similar performance-wise to the, then top of the line, SX-1250.

Thanks a lot. I also read the sonic signature of the 750 is close to the 1250. People were raving about it. The one in the area appears to be clean, but not recapped and probably not serviced. Also have the option of an SX-780. Any experience with that?

dudeman · October 2018

Yes. The SX-780 is badass. Much more powerful sounding than it's 45 WPC would suggest. High quality parts inside. Excellent amp layout.

The Phono pre is excellent too.

mrussel1 · October 2018

mrussel1 · October 2018

I bought this yesterday in Yorktown from a retired military guy. You guys wouldn't believe what he has going on. I ended up demoing a number of stereos. He had an entire closet full of silver face classics, Pioneer, Sansui, Marantz, Macintosh, everything. There were probably 40 of them on his shelves. All of them were for sale, but he only lists a few at a time. And his personal system was out of this world, all vintage and it blew my mind.
Anyway, I bought this sx-780 and it really is fantastic. So much power in the 45 wpc that I can't get it above probably 15% and that's powering my B&W 683's which are monsters, rated up to 200 watts. I will say it's not quite as detailed as my prior setup (Yamaha 2030 into Outlaw 5000 (~120 wpc), but it's definitely more musical. A good way to describe it is that the imaging is not as precise, but the soundstage is wider. I'm not using phono amp, as I really like my Emotiva and I didn't think the Pioneer sounded as good. I'm sure the age has a bit to do with that.

@dudeman, thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I have both the AVR and the Pioneer now hooked to the same speakers. I can't believe I was laboring over an RCA switch. I just used an OSD speaker selector that I have, which has 2 amp inputs. Works perfectly.

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