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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

    I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    edited October 2018
    bootlegger10 said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

    I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 
    I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted.  AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style). 
    Post edited by Milestone on
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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    I'll take it even a step further.  Most "Bill Graham Presents" events (fillmore, warfield, and the old Grateful Dead world) were/are given away free as each concert-goer leaves the venue.  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,531
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    Value - supply/demand
    Appeal - limited works of art that commemorate an event
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,959
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    Can’t you say that about just about any antique or collectible?

    Baseball cards, stamps, vintage toys?  None were initially produced to be collectible. 
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  • tubes10s
    tubes10s Posts: 544
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    That would be pretty rough if any item could only have the appeal that it originally had when it was first made and/or used.  Phones would be seriously out of luck and have no value or appeal whatsoever!  :)
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    -i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band
     

    Agree 100%.  There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs".  I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.
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  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    rrivers said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    -i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band
     

    Agree 100%.  There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs".  I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.
    Only 2 Stone songs on Lightning Bolt.  Maybe that was the problem!
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  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Milestone said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

    I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 
    I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted.  AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style). 
    Yeah I could imagine a massive GNR vs MLB rivalry had Andy survived too. I wonder how much Cobain hated MLB if he thought PJ were too commercial.

    Stars are suns to other people.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited October 2018
    I don't agree with that. One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal, especially compared to GnR. Also, GnR's music was simply superior and had way more mass appeal for several reasons - skill, vocals, lyrics, style ... pretty much everything. I think suggesting that MLB might have reached GnR levels of success probably demonstrates a pretty serious bias for MLB, no offense.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    bobby dazzlers said:
    crookedcross said:
    Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 
    Same with Pitt 2013.
     :o 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited October 2018
    rummy said:
    bobby dazzlers said:
    crookedcross said:
    Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 
    Same with Pitt 2013.
     :o 
    I finally saw the Pitt '13 poster in person at MoPop .... It's fucking awesome. I believe it to be PJ's greatest poster of all time.
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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

    Er, I meant as a band.
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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    PJ_Soul said:
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

    Er, I meant as a band.
    Haha! Stone disagrees.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

    Er, I meant as a band.
    Haha! Stone disagrees.
    :lol:
    No, but really... what I mean isn't related to the subjective sexiness or hotness of each band member. It's more about the overall vibe of the group together and their sound. That rock "sex appeal" that record labels drool over because it sells millions of records to fans, the majority of whom are men, lol.

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  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,200
    Setting Forth is in thr bottom 10 songs live: luckily only 1 1/2 mins
  • iwantmypie
    iwantmypie Posts: 48
    edited October 2018
    Boom Gaspar doesn't do it for me at all.







    jk he's the friggin man  =)
    Post edited by iwantmypie on
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