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tbergs

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 

Ditto.

I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

bootlegger10

tbergs said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 

Ditto.

I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 

Milestone

bootlegger10 said:

tbergs said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 

Ditto.

I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 

I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted.  AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style). 

riley540

The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 

Milestone

riley540 said:

The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 

I'll take it even a step further.  Most "Bill Graham Presents" events (fillmore, warfield, and the old Grateful Dead world) were/are given away free as each concert-goer leaves the venue.  

pjl44

riley540 said:

The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 

Value - supply/demand
Appeal - limited works of art that commemorate an event

on2legs

riley540 said:

The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 

Can’t you say that about just about any antique or collectible?

Baseball cards, stamps, vintage toys?  None were initially produced to be collectible. 

tubes10s

riley540 said:

The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 

That would be pretty rough if any item could only have the appeal that it originally had when it was first made and/or used.  Phones would be seriously out of luck and have no value or appeal whatsoever! 

rrivers

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

-i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band

 

Agree 100%.  There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs".  I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.

Milestone

rrivers said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

-i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band

 

Agree 100%.  There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs".  I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.

Only 2 Stone songs on Lightning Bolt.  Maybe that was the problem!

JT167846

Milestone said:

bootlegger10 said:

tbergs said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 

Ditto.

I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 

I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted.  AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style). 

Yeah I could imagine a massive GNR vs MLB rivalry had Andy survived too. I wonder how much Cobain hated MLB if he thought PJ were too commercial.

PJ_Soul

I don't agree with that. One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal, especially compared to GnR. Also, GnR's music was simply superior and had way more mass appeal for several reasons - skill, vocals, lyrics, style ... pretty much everything. I think suggesting that MLB might have reached GnR levels of success probably demonstrates a pretty serious bias for MLB, no offense.

rummy

bobby dazzlers said:

crookedcross said:

Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 

Same with Pitt 2013.

  

PJ_Soul

rummy said:

bobby dazzlers said:

crookedcross said:

Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 

Same with Pitt 2013.

  

I finally saw the Pitt '13 poster in person at MoPop .... It's fucking awesome. I believe it to be PJ's greatest poster of all time.

SmallestOceans

PJ_Soul said:

One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

PJ_Soul

SmallestOceans said:

PJ_Soul said:

One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

Er, I meant as a band.

SmallestOceans

PJ_Soul said:

SmallestOceans said:

PJ_Soul said:

One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

Er, I meant as a band.

Haha! Stone disagrees.

PJ_Soul

SmallestOceans said:

PJ_Soul said:

SmallestOceans said:

PJ_Soul said:

One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

Er, I meant as a band.

Haha! Stone disagrees.

No, but really... what I mean isn't related to the subjective sexiness or hotness of each band member. It's more about the overall vibe of the group together and their sound. That rock "sex appeal" that record labels drool over because it sells millions of records to fans, the majority of whom are men, lol.

KN219077

Setting Forth is in thr bottom 10 songs live: luckily only 1 1/2 mins

iwantmypie

Boom Gaspar doesn't do it for me at all.







jk he's the friggin man