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Trump gives himself an A+ rating, the best president in history.
he is so delusional it's not even funny.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Yeah it’s all a bit confusing for me. I thought (listening to the radio) that the biggest problem would be where the $ came from and the fact they didn’t disclose it. But I see I must go read and listen some more. One person on CNN states how this was far from a slam dunk case against trump. Even though the same person thinks he’s a liar, etc. so it wasn’t a biased political opinion.HughFreakingDillon said:
I found it to be a bit of a reach as well. But I clearly don't know as much about campaign laws as others, so we'll see.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.hippiemom = goodness0 -
They would be indicting trump is he wasn’t president. For sure. That’s not to say he would or wouldn’t be convicted.dignin said:
I don't think you quite understand what's going on here. Cohen has pled guilty to this as a crime. He, the prosecution and the judge also agreed that this was a crime. He committed this crime under the direction of Trump, he stated so under oath with no benefits from cooperation. This is no small thing and can't be compared to eating some fast food. Trump, if he wasn't currently president, would be charged as a co-conspirator.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.hippiemom = goodness0 -
So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.Post edited by PJPOWER on0
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I haven’t read up on everything about it, but of course the prosecution says it is a crime, and if Cohen can get a deal by saying it is a crime and Lowe his sentence on the tax evasion matters than he will have no problem saying it is a crime. I guess I am saying that the criminality has not been challenged in court yet. That Cohen agreed to reduce his sentence does not mean that it is automatically a crime for Trump. The prosecution still needs to prove it is a crime in court under the law and the facts to convict trump.dignin said:
I don't think you quite understand what's going on here. Cohen has pled guilty to this as a crime. He, the prosecution and the judge also agreed that this was a crime. He committed this crime under the direction of Trump, he stated so under oath with no benefits from cooperation. This is no small thing and can't be compared to eating some fast food. Trump, if he wasn't currently president, would be charged as a co-conspirator.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.0 -
it would end up with coathangers in back alleys and a bible in every school desk, that's how it will end up.PJPOWER said:So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Okay, but he would still be charged with a crime. If we all just sit back and take that in.....your president should be in court fighting a criminal charge. That's a huge deal. And as I'm sure we all know, this is only the beginning.bootlegger10 said:
I haven’t read up on everything about it, but of course the prosecution says it is a crime, and if Cohen can get a deal by saying it is a crime and Lowe his sentence on the tax evasion matters than he will have no problem saying it is a crime. I guess I am saying that the criminality has not been challenged in court yet. That Cohen agreed to reduce his sentence does not mean that it is automatically a crime for Trump. The prosecution still needs to prove it is a crime in court under the law and the facts to convict trump.dignin said:
I don't think you quite understand what's going on here. Cohen has pled guilty to this as a crime. He, the prosecution and the judge also agreed that this was a crime. He committed this crime under the direction of Trump, he stated so under oath with no benefits from cooperation. This is no small thing and can't be compared to eating some fast food. Trump, if he wasn't currently president, would be charged as a co-conspirator.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.0 -
haha, the jury system is so absurd.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/23/manafort-juror-reveals-lone-holdout-prevented-mueller-team-from-winning-conviction-on-all-counts.html
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Pence isn’t electable as the head of a national ticket. Although our national security would be increased as he wouldn’t meet any female heads of state alone.PJPOWER said:So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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If that’s the case, is it better/worse than the status quo? Do people think that once Trump is out of office that they will be raising victory flags? I think it will be bittersweet for the ones trying so hard to get Trump out if/when it happens. I wonder if the odds of an incumbent win will be better or worse if Pence is the incumbent president...HughFreakingDillon said:
it would end up with coathangers in back alleys and a bible in every school desk, that's how it will end up.PJPOWER said:So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.0 -
Duncan described herself as an avid supporter of President Trump.Spiritual_Chaos said:
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What system do you prefer? The jury system works pretty well...Spiritual_Chaos said:Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Pretty amazing and we haven’t even got to the dooshy kids yet.dignin said:
Okay, but he would still be charged with a crime. If we all just sit back and take that in.....your president should be in court fighting a criminal charge. That's a huge deal. And as I'm sure we all know, this is only the beginning.bootlegger10 said:
I haven’t read up on everything about it, but of course the prosecution says it is a crime, and if Cohen can get a deal by saying it is a crime and Lowe his sentence on the tax evasion matters than he will have no problem saying it is a crime. I guess I am saying that the criminality has not been challenged in court yet. That Cohen agreed to reduce his sentence does not mean that it is automatically a crime for Trump. The prosecution still needs to prove it is a crime in court under the law and the facts to convict trump.dignin said:
I don't think you quite understand what's going on here. Cohen has pled guilty to this as a crime. He, the prosecution and the judge also agreed that this was a crime. He committed this crime under the direction of Trump, he stated so under oath with no benefits from cooperation. This is no small thing and can't be compared to eating some fast food. Trump, if he wasn't currently president, would be charged as a co-conspirator.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.
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depends on the balance of power in the two houses. I think a lot of people on the left are outraged at Trump's past and how he conducts himself towards women and minorities; it's kind of disgraceful to have that type of person as a president, especially one that seems to utterly unaware of their own idiocy.PJPOWER said:
If that’s the case, is it better/worse than the status quo? Do people think that once Trump is out of office that they will be raising victory flags? I think it will be bittersweet for the ones trying so hard to get Trump out if/when it happens. I wonder if the odds of an incumbent win will be better or worse if Pence is the incumbent president...HughFreakingDillon said:
it would end up with coathangers in back alleys and a bible in every school desk, that's how it will end up.PJPOWER said:So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.
the fear is what trump says/said he will do, and that he has the power in the executive branch to get these things done. luckily so far some of those human rights issues have been overturned by the courts.
he is making it embarassing to be an american to those who care about that image. he is making it proud to be an american by those who have the attitude of "fuck everyone else, we are AMERICA".
pence won't tweet. he will give occasional unemotional, uncomfortable speeches that look like he's being spoken through by an alien race. he will say things that will harken back to the early to mid 1900's. but he ultimately may get nothing done.
and then in 2024 the pendulum will swing back the other way and Alyssa Milano will be president.
#whostheboss2024Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
That makes a lot of sense. Alyssa Milano, lol? I’d be lying if I said that would surprise me. I don’t know if I would be surprised if Snapchat won the presidency in 2024, though,HughFreakingDillon said:
depends on the balance of power in the two houses. I think a lot of people on the left are outraged at Trump's past and how he conducts himself towards women and minorities; it's kind of disgraceful to have that type of person as a president, especially one that seems to utterly unaware of their own idiocy.PJPOWER said:
If that’s the case, is it better/worse than the status quo? Do people think that once Trump is out of office that they will be raising victory flags? I think it will be bittersweet for the ones trying so hard to get Trump out if/when it happens. I wonder if the odds of an incumbent win will be better or worse if Pence is the incumbent president...HughFreakingDillon said:
it would end up with coathangers in back alleys and a bible in every school desk, that's how it will end up.PJPOWER said:So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.
the fear is what trump says/said he will do, and that he has the power in the executive branch to get these things done. luckily so far some of those human rights issues have been overturned by the courts.
he is making it embarassing to be an american to those who care about that image. he is making it proud to be an american by those who have the attitude of "fuck everyone else, we are AMERICA".
pence won't tweet. he will give occasional unemotional, uncomfortable speeches that look like he's being spoken through by an alien race. he will say things that will harken back to the early to mid 1900's. but he ultimately may get nothing done.
and then in 2024 the pendulum will swing back the other way and Alyssa Milano will be president.
#whostheboss2024
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I think professional judges who have studied law should be involved.Meltdown99 said:
What system do you prefer? The jury system works pretty well...Spiritual_Chaos said:
In Sweden we have professional judges involved (1 out of 4 in district courts, 3 lay judges) and I think 3 in the second tier courts where they are the majority."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I think the age of a career politician at the highest level might be coming to a close. we're now in the "who has the most twitter followers" or "who is the most famous" age.PJPOWER said:
That makes a lot of sense. Alyssa Milano, lol? I’d be lying if I said that would surprise me. I don’t know if I would be surprised if Snapchat won the presidency in 2024, though,HughFreakingDillon said:
depends on the balance of power in the two houses. I think a lot of people on the left are outraged at Trump's past and how he conducts himself towards women and minorities; it's kind of disgraceful to have that type of person as a president, especially one that seems to utterly unaware of their own idiocy.PJPOWER said:
If that’s the case, is it better/worse than the status quo? Do people think that once Trump is out of office that they will be raising victory flags? I think it will be bittersweet for the ones trying so hard to get Trump out if/when it happens. I wonder if the odds of an incumbent win will be better or worse if Pence is the incumbent president...HughFreakingDillon said:
it would end up with coathangers in back alleys and a bible in every school desk, that's how it will end up.PJPOWER said:So has the official countdown to the Pence train rolling into station started yet? Sure looks like that’s the direction things are heading! Sure are a lot of people eager to make Pence the incumbent in the next election, not sure how that would end up.
the fear is what trump says/said he will do, and that he has the power in the executive branch to get these things done. luckily so far some of those human rights issues have been overturned by the courts.
he is making it embarassing to be an american to those who care about that image. he is making it proud to be an american by those who have the attitude of "fuck everyone else, we are AMERICA".
pence won't tweet. he will give occasional unemotional, uncomfortable speeches that look like he's being spoken through by an alien race. he will say things that will harken back to the early to mid 1900's. but he ultimately may get nothing done.
and then in 2024 the pendulum will swing back the other way and Alyssa Milano will be president.
#whostheboss2024
lol
I mean, jesus, when trump got elected who did many on the left look to? Oprah Freaking Winfrey. at least she had enough sense to say "uh, yeah, no".
This would have made a good slogan though:
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I guess no system is perfect ... I still have plenty of faith that the system get it right most of the time. It's better than China and Saudi Arabia system ...Spiritual_Chaos said:
I think professional judges who have studied law should be involved.Meltdown99 said:
What system do you prefer? The jury system works pretty well...Spiritual_Chaos said:
In Sweden we have professional judges involved (1 out of 4 in district courts, 3 lay judges) and I think 3 in the second tier courts where they are the majority.
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Is this a "Chris Cuomo is hot" post?JC29856 said:"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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