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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964
    Meanwhile, a valuable lesson
    could be taught in simply employing water
    cannons and dogs in concert with arrests,
    fines and confinement. 
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964
    That letter to the editor of my local weekly was pre-Brett.

    I got a letter from the government 
    The other day 
    I opened and read it 
    It said they were suckers…

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,814

    I guess I just don’t see your beef with the whole thing.  To me it’s nothing new, a campaign is as much about selling your candidate as it it about trashing your oponent these days.  If I knew that someone had trash about my opponent in a race as dirty as politics I’d shut my mouth and let it hit the streets.  Shit,Clinton’s campaign paid for a fake dossier so they could legally spy on the oppositions campaign and you’re pissed that hackers found some dirty shit and trumps camp didn’t try to stop them? Come on.
    Two points on that..  

    1. Dossier - first, it was not obtained through a criminal act on US soil, nor was it obtained from an adversarial gov't.  Last, I do not believe the Clinton campaign used any part of it.  If I'm wrong on the last point, please correct me.  

    2. There are guardrails and lines that should not be crossed.  Remember in 08 when that women in the McCain town hall tried to say that Obama wasn't an American?  McCain shut that down because he felt it was over the line and beneath the dignity of the office which he sought.  Trump should have reacted the same way.  He has no moral compass and you know this.  Everyone knows this.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,814
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,959
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 14,655
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    Obama would have been seen a fucking with the election and you know it. Talk to Mitch. THAT fucker got what he wanted......
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,267
    mrussel1 said:

    I guess I just don’t see your beef with the whole thing.  To me it’s nothing new, a campaign is as much about selling your candidate as it it about trashing your oponent these days.  If I knew that someone had trash about my opponent in a race as dirty as politics I’d shut my mouth and let it hit the streets.  Shit,Clinton’s campaign paid for a fake dossier so they could legally spy on the oppositions campaign and you’re pissed that hackers found some dirty shit and trumps camp didn’t try to stop them? Come on.
    Two points on that..  

    1. Dossier - first, it was not obtained through a criminal act on US soil, nor was it obtained from an adversarial gov't.  Last, I do not believe the Clinton campaign used any part of it.  If I'm wrong on the last point, please correct me.  

    2. There are guardrails and lines that should not be crossed.  Remember in 08 when that women in the McCain town hall tried to say that Obama wasn't an American?  McCain shut that down because he felt it was over the line and beneath the dignity of the office which he sought.  Trump should have reacted the same way.  He has no moral compass and you know this.  Everyone knows this.  
    But it's okay if he and his regime have no moral compass. It's okay if their acts are un-American and un-constitutional. It's okay if the current occupants of the white house are racist xenophobes.

    As long as....

    Peoples 401k are going up up up
    People think they are paying less taxes
    That the top 1% pay little or no taxes
    That the White House is pro-life and anti-gun control
    And that a wall gets built with American taxpayers dollars to keep out the invading criminals and terrorists. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,814
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,959
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    Obama would have been seen a fucking with the election and you know it. Talk to Mitch. THAT fucker got what he wanted......
    Perhaps, but as president that doesn't matter. You need to deal with a threat, despite the political backlash. Making a political decision to ignore a threat from a foreign government is bullshit.  Very disappointing.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,884
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 
    Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
     
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    Obama would have been seen a fucking with the election and you know it. Talk to Mitch. THAT fucker got what he wanted......


    this started happening well before 2016 and they knew it.... they even told intelligence agencies to stand down... because Obama wanted/needed Russia to play nice on the Iran deal and Syria... also, the POTUS didn't need Mitch's blessing to protect the country and the election

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 
    Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
     

    I tend to agree.... if the actions are worthy of impeachment you go for it and do the right thing, not what is convenient politically
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,678
    I tend to think Obama's administration dropped the ball on that.  Of course, I tend to think talking about Obama in the Trump thread is a deflection.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,479
    Tiki said:
    This is what you sound like...

    To the Editor:
    They say a watched pot never boils.However,
    Americans are currently witnessing
    one that’s boiling over. And it’s not some
    lovingly prepared sumptuous meal, but,
    rather, a concocted array of elements unfit
    for human partaking. This flaming pot is
    cleverly prepared with ingredients blended
    to effect radical leftist’s political agenda by
    any means possible.Its recipe comprises: a
    generous measure of continuous fake news
    and half-truth news stirred with the ultraleft
    leaning undercover work of select high
    governmental officials, dashed with very
    frequent vile rants of pseudo intellectual
    Hollywood make-believers and blended
    with unsavory spices of committed Socialists.
    Voila, we now have the intentionally
    crafted fanatical product - hate. And hate
    characteristically manifests itself via the
    baser sort.
    Not since Abe Lincoln has our United
    States experienced the presence of hate
    such as that manifested nowadays towards
    our serving American President. And it’s
    rabidly done so at the hands of committed
    leftists/Socialists of our own country.Their
    hate transcends our president, deviously
    berating our First Lady, suggesting harm
    to his pre-teen aged son and denigration
    of other family members and extends to
    our VP and select cabinet members et al.
    We can now number multiple members
    of his cabinet and staff who’ve recently
    been targeted by haters up front, close
    and extremely personal. One conservative
    woman’s tormentor was so close so as to
    have his loud mouth spew spit onto her
    hair, reportedly before her security detail.
    That’s three female and two male victims
    purposely and maliciously sought out to
    receive verbal terrorism, ill-willed taunts,
    cursing rebukes and personal antagonism
    at the hands of those now fully committed
    to hate. Strangely, as two victims were
    so confronted in restaurants, management
    never bothered to step in and insist haters
    take their stink outside their place of business.
    Agreeing with haters or no, you’d
    think management would prefer to please
    all its customers, make money and grow
    more business while remaining neutral of
    their political views publicly.
    At least one Democrat politician is calling
    on fellow haters to torment those with
    whom they disagree in requesting leftists
    to mobilize and shout down conservatives
    wherever spotted via pronouncing their
    fellow Americans not welcomed at gas
    stations or elsewhere. Then, leftist newspapers,
    others, declare select conservative
    staffers deserve to have their lives so adversely
    affected and should expect such
    warranted verbal domestic torment. All
    because said conservatives seek to uphold
    America’s Rule of Law.Same Rule of Law,
    BTW, as was upheld by former administrations
    with no public frenzy via agenda
    driven antagonistic hate filled media.
    There are those of every stripe who are
    quick to move, determined to resist torment,
    threats and purposed invasion of
    their personal space. And sooner or later,
    somewhere, the mannered and seated conservative
    diner/victim will respond with
    sudden and surprising fury to the standing
    overbearing hater as he/she bellow their
    personal rebuke often laced with vulgarity
    and innuendo. It’s coming, you can bet the
    farm on it.
    If the legal election of America’s 45th
    President were not enough in itself to warrant
    hate in the hearts of those preferring
    her continued fundamental transformation,
    consider the additional ire caused of this
    president as he announces his conservative
    SCOTUS nominee. With the likelihood of
    an allow life judge being so named, democrat
    politicos, Hollywood nuts, leftist news
    purveyors and committed America despising
    ground pounders will be so enraged
    their hair may self-ignite.That is, as the nation
    again likely experiences more rioting
    in her streets.
    While protesting, carrying signs, employing
    bull horns etc. are in keeping with
    the law and our First Amendment, other
    conditions are not. We may very well
    again note all too familiar storefront glass
    breakage, cars torched, firebombs, projectiles
    hurled at those of opposing views,
    people bring spit on, threatened, personally
    attacked (mostly girls and the elderly) roads
    blocked to traffic and pedestrians and personal
    and private property destroyed at
    will And, we wonder if law enforcement
    will again be ordered to stand down as savages
    destroy what they will, all at taxpayer
    expense. Meanwhile, a valuable lesson
    could be taught in simply employing water
    cannons and dogs in concert with arrests,
    fines and confinement. Who wouldn’t
    think twice before committing such acts
    of violence and destruction a second time.
     Things continuing as they are, America
    is in for one long, hot, tumultuous Summer
    of bitterness, ill-will, and self-inflicted
    destruction. Hate is bad for America as it
    divides her citizens, stifles her productivity
    and degrades her international image. And
    hate is altogether unwarranted. The left enjoyed
    nearly a decade of ultra-liberalism,
    yet, for some reason, they cannot permit
    the customary success of subsequent conservative
    governance.
    America will never attain greatness
    to the degree she could achieve if she
    continues on this very troubled broad
    path. And the only solution is national
    repentance. However, that smacks of religion
    and haters demand America separate
    herself from the good Lord. So, we continue
    walking our guilty distance, rejecting
    God’s proven providential blessings and
    the safety and well being of our beloved
    USA.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,423
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 
    Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
     
    agree 100%.  you can't let his actions slide. make the republicans in the senate go down on record as siding with Trump.  For sure  you have to hold hearings.  make some of these fuckers go down on record, with the penalty of perjury hanging over them if they lie before Congress.  

     
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 12,318
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:

    And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?


    So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?
    Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

    But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.
    We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 
    Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
     

    I tend to agree.... if the actions are worthy of impeachment you go for it and do the right thing, not what is convenient politically
    Yep. 

    And also not look back at the few instances of impeachments in the past for some guidelines on political fallout. Seems rather pointless.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,884
    CM189191 said:
    Tiki said:
    This is what you sound like...

    To the Editor:
    They say a watched pot never boils.However,
    Americans are currently witnessing
    one that’s boiling over. And it’s not some
    lovingly prepared sumptuous meal, but,
    rather, a concocted array of elements unfit
    for human partaking. This flaming pot is
    cleverly prepared with ingredients blended
    to effect radical leftist’s political agenda by
    any means possible.Its recipe comprises: a
    generous measure of continuous fake news
    and half-truth news stirred with the ultraleft
    leaning undercover work of select high
    governmental officials, dashed with very
    frequent vile rants of pseudo intellectual
    Hollywood make-believers and blended
    with unsavory spices of committed Socialists.
    Voila, we now have the intentionally
    crafted fanatical product - hate. And hate
    characteristically manifests itself via the
    baser sort.
    Not since Abe Lincoln has our United
    States experienced the presence of hate
    such as that manifested nowadays towards
    our serving American President. And it’s
    rabidly done so at the hands of committed
    leftists/Socialists of our own country.Their
    hate transcends our president, deviously
    berating our First Lady, suggesting harm
    to his pre-teen aged son and denigration
    of other family members and extends to
    our VP and select cabinet members et al.
    We can now number multiple members
    of his cabinet and staff who’ve recently
    been targeted by haters up front, close
    and extremely personal. One conservative
    woman’s tormentor was so close so as to
    have his loud mouth spew spit onto her
    hair, reportedly before her security detail.
    That’s three female and two male victims
    purposely and maliciously sought out to
    receive verbal terrorism, ill-willed taunts,
    cursing rebukes and personal antagonism
    at the hands of those now fully committed
    to hate. Strangely, as two victims were
    so confronted in restaurants, management
    never bothered to step in and insist haters
    take their stink outside their place of business.
    Agreeing with haters or no, you’d
    think management would prefer to please
    all its customers, make money and grow
    more business while remaining neutral of
    their political views publicly.
    At least one Democrat politician is calling
    on fellow haters to torment those with
    whom they disagree in requesting leftists
    to mobilize and shout down conservatives
    wherever spotted via pronouncing their
    fellow Americans not welcomed at gas
    stations or elsewhere. Then, leftist newspapers,
    others, declare select conservative
    staffers deserve to have their lives so adversely
    affected and should expect such
    warranted verbal domestic torment. All
    because said conservatives seek to uphold
    America’s Rule of Law.Same Rule of Law,
    BTW, as was upheld by former administrations
    with no public frenzy via agenda
    driven antagonistic hate filled media.
    There are those of every stripe who are
    quick to move, determined to resist torment,
    threats and purposed invasion of
    their personal space. And sooner or later,
    somewhere, the mannered and seated conservative
    diner/victim will respond with
    sudden and surprising fury to the standing
    overbearing hater as he/she bellow their
    personal rebuke often laced with vulgarity
    and innuendo. It’s coming, you can bet the
    farm on it.
    If the legal election of America’s 45th
    President were not enough in itself to warrant
    hate in the hearts of those preferring
    her continued fundamental transformation,
    consider the additional ire caused of this
    president as he announces his conservative
    SCOTUS nominee. With the likelihood of
    an allow life judge being so named, democrat
    politicos, Hollywood nuts, leftist news
    purveyors and committed America despising
    ground pounders will be so enraged
    their hair may self-ignite.That is, as the nation
    again likely experiences more rioting
    in her streets.
    While protesting, carrying signs, employing
    bull horns etc. are in keeping with
    the law and our First Amendment, other
    conditions are not. We may very well
    again note all too familiar storefront glass
    breakage, cars torched, firebombs, projectiles
    hurled at those of opposing views,
    people bring spit on, threatened, personally
    attacked (mostly girls and the elderly) roads
    blocked to traffic and pedestrians and personal
    and private property destroyed at
    will And, we wonder if law enforcement
    will again be ordered to stand down as savages
    destroy what they will, all at taxpayer
    expense. Meanwhile, a valuable lesson
    could be taught in simply employing water
    cannons and dogs in concert with arrests,
    fines and confinement. Who wouldn’t
    think twice before committing such acts
    of violence and destruction a second time.
     Things continuing as they are, America
    is in for one long, hot, tumultuous Summer
    of bitterness, ill-will, and self-inflicted
    destruction. Hate is bad for America as it
    divides her citizens, stifles her productivity
    and degrades her international image. And
    hate is altogether unwarranted. The left enjoyed
    nearly a decade of ultra-liberalism,
    yet, for some reason, they cannot permit
    the customary success of subsequent conservative
    governance.
    America will never attain greatness
    to the degree she could achieve if she
    continues on this very troubled broad
    path. And the only solution is national
    repentance. However, that smacks of religion
    and haters demand America separate
    herself from the good Lord. So, we continue
    walking our guilty distance, rejecting
    God’s proven providential blessings and
    the safety and well being of our beloved
    USA.
    Cxxxxxx Sxxxxx
    Mechanicsville, MD
    “Verbal terrorism?” Pretty snowflakey.
    stochastic terrorism[stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uh m]
    WORD ORIGIN
    noun
    the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
    The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.
    You mean like this?

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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964
    The House is derelict in duty by not starting the wheels rolling toward impeachment.

    It's like Joe Deputy saying I chose not to pull over that drunk driver even though I see him WEAVING ALL OVER THE ROAD, 'cause of all the lawyers and judges and all the binge drinking alcoholic behavior that I do every weekend.  Law is law.  Or it isn't.

    History will not be kind to Mitch the snitch OR Jim Jordan.  

    Why all the ENABLING?
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    At least CENSURE the idiot.  Holy shit.
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964
    When they get back...next week.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 21,079
    Tiki said:
    When they get back...next week.
    GOP party of cowards spineless individuals !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964

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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,267
    Tiki said:
    When they get back...next week.
    GOP party of cowards spineless individuals !
    As well as their supporters/voters
  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 6,964
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,814
    I understand and empathize the desire to address it and put it on the record.  My opinion may change after hearing the testimony of McGahn and Mueller.  For now,  I'm loathe to do anything that increases his chances of reelection,  and using history as a guide,  this might.  

    I hate to sound like a politician,  but I am data driven,  so I'd like to see where independent Americans stand as well.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,884
    Meanwhile 


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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,959
    mrussel1 said:
    I understand and empathize the desire to address it and put it on the record.  My opinion may change after hearing the testimony of McGahn and Mueller.  For now,  I'm loathe to do anything that increases his chances of reelection,  and using history as a guide,  this might.  

    I hate to sound like a politician,  but I am data driven,  so I'd like to see where independent Americans stand as well.  
    I personally think it's their elected duty to start impeachment proceedings based on what they are all saying they believe.  To allow politics to keep you from doing your elected duty ... that's exactly part of what Trump is certainly guilty of.  
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