Donald Trump

ikiT

Meanwhile, a valuable lesson

could be taught in simply employing water

cannons and dogs in concert with arrests,

fines and confinement. 

ikiT

That letter to the editor of my local weekly was pre-Brett.

I got a letter from the government 
The other day 
I opened and read it 
It said they were suckers…

mrussel1

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I guess I just don’t see your beef with the whole thing.  To me it’s nothing new, a campaign is as much about selling your candidate as it it about trashing your oponent these days.  If I knew that someone had trash about my opponent in a race as dirty as politics I’d shut my mouth and let it hit the streets.  Shit,Clinton’s campaign paid for a fake dossier so they could legally spy on the oppositions campaign and you’re pissed that hackers found some dirty shit and trumps camp didn’t try to stop them? Come on.

Two points on that..  

1. Dossier - first, it was not obtained through a criminal act on US soil, nor was it obtained from an adversarial gov't.  Last, I do not believe the Clinton campaign used any part of it.  If I'm wrong on the last point, please correct me.  

2. There are guardrails and lines that should not be crossed.  Remember in 08 when that women in the McCain town hall tried to say that Obama wasn't an American?  McCain shut that down because he felt it was over the line and beneath the dignity of the office which he sought.  Trump should have reacted the same way.  He has no moral compass and you know this.  Everyone knows this.  

mrussel1

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

mickeyrat

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

Obama would have been seen a fucking with the election and you know it. Talk to Mitch. THAT fucker got what he wanted......

Bentleyspop

mrussel1 said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I guess I just don’t see your beef with the whole thing.  To me it’s nothing new, a campaign is as much about selling your candidate as it it about trashing your oponent these days.  If I knew that someone had trash about my opponent in a race as dirty as politics I’d shut my mouth and let it hit the streets.  Shit,Clinton’s campaign paid for a fake dossier so they could legally spy on the oppositions campaign and you’re pissed that hackers found some dirty shit and trumps camp didn’t try to stop them? Come on.

Two points on that..  

1. Dossier - first, it was not obtained through a criminal act on US soil, nor was it obtained from an adversarial gov't.  Last, I do not believe the Clinton campaign used any part of it.  If I'm wrong on the last point, please correct me.  

2. There are guardrails and lines that should not be crossed.  Remember in 08 when that women in the McCain town hall tried to say that Obama wasn't an American?  McCain shut that down because he felt it was over the line and beneath the dignity of the office which he sought.  Trump should have reacted the same way.  He has no moral compass and you know this.  Everyone knows this.  

But it's okay if he and his regime have no moral compass. It's okay if their acts are un-American and un-constitutional. It's okay if the current occupants of the white house are racist xenophobes.

As long as....

Peoples 401k are going up up up
People think they are paying less taxes
That the top 1% pay little or no taxes
That the White House is pro-life and anti-gun control
And that a wall gets built with American taxpayers dollars to keep out the invading criminals and terrorists. 

mrussel1

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 

cincybearcat

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

Obama would have been seen a fucking with the election and you know it. Talk to Mitch. THAT fucker got what he wanted......

Perhaps, but as president that doesn't matter. You need to deal with a threat, despite the political backlash. Making a political decision to ignore a threat from a foreign government is bullshit.  Very disappointing.

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 

Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
 

my2hands

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

Obama would have been seen a fucking with the election and you know it. Talk to Mitch. THAT fucker got what he wanted......

this started happening well before 2016 and they knew it.... they even told intelligence agencies to stand down... because Obama wanted/needed Russia to play nice on the Iran deal and Syria... also, the POTUS didn't need Mitch's blessing to protect the country and the election

my2hands

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 

Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
 

I tend to agree.... if the actions are worthy of impeachment you go for it and do the right thing, not what is convenient politically

OnWis97

I tend to think Obama's administration dropped the ball on that.  Of course, I tend to think talking about Obama in the Trump thread is a deflection.

CM189191

Halifax2TheMax said:

Tiki said:

This is what you sound like...

To the Editor:

They say a watched pot never boils.However,

Americans are currently witnessing

one that’s boiling over. And it’s not some

lovingly prepared sumptuous meal, but,

rather, a concocted array of elements unfit

for human partaking. This flaming pot is

cleverly prepared with ingredients blended

to effect radical leftist’s political agenda by

any means possible.Its recipe comprises: a

generous measure of continuous fake news

and half-truth news stirred with the ultraleft

leaning undercover work of select high

governmental officials, dashed with very

frequent vile rants of pseudo intellectual

Hollywood make-believers and blended

with unsavory spices of committed Socialists.

Voila, we now have the intentionally

crafted fanatical product - hate. And hate

characteristically manifests itself via the

baser sort.

Not since Abe Lincoln has our United

States experienced the presence of hate

such as that manifested nowadays towards

our serving American President. And it’s

rabidly done so at the hands of committed

leftists/Socialists of our own country.Their

hate transcends our president, deviously

berating our First Lady, suggesting harm

to his pre-teen aged son and denigration

of other family members and extends to

our VP and select cabinet members et al.

We can now number multiple members

of his cabinet and staff who’ve recently

been targeted by haters up front, close

and extremely personal. One conservative

woman’s tormentor was so close so as to

have his loud mouth spew spit onto her

hair, reportedly before her security detail.

That’s three female and two male victims

purposely and maliciously sought out to

receive verbal terrorism, ill-willed taunts,

cursing rebukes and personal antagonism

at the hands of those now fully committed

to hate. Strangely, as two victims were

so confronted in restaurants, management

never bothered to step in and insist haters

take their stink outside their place of business.

Agreeing with haters or no, you’d

think management would prefer to please

all its customers, make money and grow

more business while remaining neutral of

their political views publicly.

At least one Democrat politician is calling

on fellow haters to torment those with

whom they disagree in requesting leftists

to mobilize and shout down conservatives

wherever spotted via pronouncing their

fellow Americans not welcomed at gas

stations or elsewhere. Then, leftist newspapers,

others, declare select conservative

staffers deserve to have their lives so adversely

affected and should expect such

warranted verbal domestic torment. All

because said conservatives seek to uphold

America’s Rule of Law.Same Rule of Law,

BTW, as was upheld by former administrations

with no public frenzy via agenda

driven antagonistic hate filled media.

There are those of every stripe who are

quick to move, determined to resist torment,

threats and purposed invasion of

their personal space. And sooner or later,

somewhere, the mannered and seated conservative

diner/victim will respond with

sudden and surprising fury to the standing

overbearing hater as he/she bellow their

personal rebuke often laced with vulgarity

and innuendo. It’s coming, you can bet the

farm on it.

If the legal election of America’s 45th

President were not enough in itself to warrant

hate in the hearts of those preferring

her continued fundamental transformation,

consider the additional ire caused of this

president as he announces his conservative

SCOTUS nominee. With the likelihood of

an allow life judge being so named, democrat

politicos, Hollywood nuts, leftist news

purveyors and committed America despising

ground pounders will be so enraged

their hair may self-ignite.That is, as the nation

again likely experiences more rioting

in her streets.

While protesting, carrying signs, employing

bull horns etc. are in keeping with

the law and our First Amendment, other

conditions are not. We may very well

again note all too familiar storefront glass

breakage, cars torched, firebombs, projectiles

hurled at those of opposing views,

people bring spit on, threatened, personally

attacked (mostly girls and the elderly) roads

blocked to traffic and pedestrians and personal

and private property destroyed at

will And, we wonder if law enforcement

will again be ordered to stand down as savages

destroy what they will, all at taxpayer

expense. Meanwhile, a valuable lesson

could be taught in simply employing water

cannons and dogs in concert with arrests,

fines and confinement. Who wouldn’t

think twice before committing such acts

of violence and destruction a second time.

 Things continuing as they are, America

is in for one long, hot, tumultuous Summer

of bitterness, ill-will, and self-inflicted

destruction. Hate is bad for America as it

divides her citizens, stifles her productivity

and degrades her international image. And

hate is altogether unwarranted. The left enjoyed

nearly a decade of ultra-liberalism,

yet, for some reason, they cannot permit

the customary success of subsequent conservative

governance.

America will never attain greatness

to the degree she could achieve if she

continues on this very troubled broad

path. And the only solution is national

repentance. However, that smacks of religion

and haters demand America separate

herself from the good Lord. So, we continue

walking our guilty distance, rejecting

God’s proven providential blessings and

the safety and well being of our beloved

USA.

Cxxxxxx Sxxxxx

Mechanicsville, MD

“Verbal terrorism?” Pretty snowflakey.

stochastic terrorism[stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uh m]

WORD ORIGIN

noun

the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:

The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.

pjhawks

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 

Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
 

agree 100%.  you can't let his actions slide. make the republicans in the senate go down on record as siding with Trump.  For sure  you have to hold hearings.  make some of these fuckers go down on record, with the penalty of perjury hanging over them if they lie before Congress.  

 

Spiritual_Chaos

my2hands said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

And when that took place, for a few YEARS leading up to the election, what did the administration actually in power at the time do about it to stop it?

So not doing enough or otherwise being ineffective at stopping the hacking is the same thing as exploiting it for your political benefit?

Certainly not the same thing and not equal.  But disturbing to me that Obama did so little.  Maybe disturbing isn't right...disappointing?

But it is disturbing to me that we now have had 2 administrations either mostly ignore, ignore, or accept this.  Sickening.  Trump should be impeached, not for collusion but for failing to fulfill his duty as president to protect the republic from foreign attacks of all kinds.  Not fit for duty if you look out for yourself over country.  Of course...I'm no politician so I have no idea if what I am saying could even happen...just how I feel.

We're on the same page here.  I don't think Pelosi should start impeachment hearings because of the practical reality of the Senate,  but he deserves to bre impeached. 

Disagree. The house should impeach and the senate repubs should forever be on record for having sold their souls, no longer able to claim the preciousness of the constitution or being the party of law and order. Fuck them and the political consequences. I’d rather we be on the right side of what is moral and just and on the right side of history. Besmirch the Team Trump Treason name.
 

I tend to agree.... if the actions are worthy of impeachment you go for it and do the right thing, not what is convenient politically

Yep. 

And also not look back at the few instances of impeachments in the past for some guidelines on political fallout. Seems rather pointless.

Halifax2TheMax

CM189191 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Tiki said:

This is what you sound like...

To the Editor:

They say a watched pot never boils.However,

Americans are currently witnessing

one that’s boiling over. And it’s not some

lovingly prepared sumptuous meal, but,

rather, a concocted array of elements unfit

for human partaking. This flaming pot is

cleverly prepared with ingredients blended

to effect radical leftist’s political agenda by

any means possible.Its recipe comprises: a

generous measure of continuous fake news

and half-truth news stirred with the ultraleft

leaning undercover work of select high

governmental officials, dashed with very

frequent vile rants of pseudo intellectual

Hollywood make-believers and blended

with unsavory spices of committed Socialists.

Voila, we now have the intentionally

crafted fanatical product - hate. And hate

characteristically manifests itself via the

baser sort.

Not since Abe Lincoln has our United

States experienced the presence of hate

such as that manifested nowadays towards

our serving American President. And it’s

rabidly done so at the hands of committed

leftists/Socialists of our own country.Their

hate transcends our president, deviously

berating our First Lady, suggesting harm

to his pre-teen aged son and denigration

of other family members and extends to

our VP and select cabinet members et al.

We can now number multiple members

of his cabinet and staff who’ve recently

been targeted by haters up front, close

and extremely personal. One conservative

woman’s tormentor was so close so as to

have his loud mouth spew spit onto her

hair, reportedly before her security detail.

That’s three female and two male victims

purposely and maliciously sought out to

receive verbal terrorism, ill-willed taunts,

cursing rebukes and personal antagonism

at the hands of those now fully committed

to hate. Strangely, as two victims were

so confronted in restaurants, management

never bothered to step in and insist haters

take their stink outside their place of business.

Agreeing with haters or no, you’d

think management would prefer to please

all its customers, make money and grow

more business while remaining neutral of

their political views publicly.

At least one Democrat politician is calling

on fellow haters to torment those with

whom they disagree in requesting leftists

to mobilize and shout down conservatives

wherever spotted via pronouncing their

fellow Americans not welcomed at gas

stations or elsewhere. Then, leftist newspapers,

others, declare select conservative

staffers deserve to have their lives so adversely

affected and should expect such

warranted verbal domestic torment. All

because said conservatives seek to uphold

America’s Rule of Law.Same Rule of Law,

BTW, as was upheld by former administrations

with no public frenzy via agenda

driven antagonistic hate filled media.

There are those of every stripe who are

quick to move, determined to resist torment,

threats and purposed invasion of

their personal space. And sooner or later,

somewhere, the mannered and seated conservative

diner/victim will respond with

sudden and surprising fury to the standing

overbearing hater as he/she bellow their

personal rebuke often laced with vulgarity

and innuendo. It’s coming, you can bet the

farm on it.

If the legal election of America’s 45th

President were not enough in itself to warrant

hate in the hearts of those preferring

her continued fundamental transformation,

consider the additional ire caused of this

president as he announces his conservative

SCOTUS nominee. With the likelihood of

an allow life judge being so named, democrat

politicos, Hollywood nuts, leftist news

purveyors and committed America despising

ground pounders will be so enraged

their hair may self-ignite.That is, as the nation

again likely experiences more rioting

in her streets.

While protesting, carrying signs, employing

bull horns etc. are in keeping with

the law and our First Amendment, other

conditions are not. We may very well

again note all too familiar storefront glass

breakage, cars torched, firebombs, projectiles

hurled at those of opposing views,

people bring spit on, threatened, personally

attacked (mostly girls and the elderly) roads

blocked to traffic and pedestrians and personal

and private property destroyed at

will And, we wonder if law enforcement

will again be ordered to stand down as savages

destroy what they will, all at taxpayer

expense. Meanwhile, a valuable lesson

could be taught in simply employing water

cannons and dogs in concert with arrests,

fines and confinement. Who wouldn’t

think twice before committing such acts

of violence and destruction a second time.

 Things continuing as they are, America

is in for one long, hot, tumultuous Summer

of bitterness, ill-will, and self-inflicted

destruction. Hate is bad for America as it

divides her citizens, stifles her productivity

and degrades her international image. And

hate is altogether unwarranted. The left enjoyed

nearly a decade of ultra-liberalism,

yet, for some reason, they cannot permit

the customary success of subsequent conservative

governance.

America will never attain greatness

to the degree she could achieve if she

continues on this very troubled broad

path. And the only solution is national

repentance. However, that smacks of religion

and haters demand America separate

herself from the good Lord. So, we continue

walking our guilty distance, rejecting

God’s proven providential blessings and

the safety and well being of our beloved

USA.

Cxxxxxx Sxxxxx

Mechanicsville, MD

“Verbal terrorism?” Pretty snowflakey.

stochastic terrorism[stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uh m]

WORD ORIGIN

noun

the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:

The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.

You mean like this?

https://apple.news/AcgdSROCFSrqK_K_Lg9-DRw

ikiT

The House is derelict in duty by not starting the wheels rolling toward impeachment.

It's like Joe Deputy saying I chose not to pull over that drunk driver even though I see him WEAVING ALL OVER THE ROAD, 'cause of all the lawyers and judges and all the binge drinking alcoholic behavior that I do every weekend.  Law is law.  Or it isn't.

History will not be kind to Mitch the snitch OR Jim Jordan.  

Why all the ENABLING?

ikiT

At least CENSURE the idiot.  Holy shit.

ikiT

When they get back...next week.

josevolution

Tiki said:

When they get back...next week.

GOP party of cowards spineless individuals !

ikiT

https://instagram.com/p/BwlDwTAhGJj/embed/

brianlux

ikiT

https://instagram.com/p/BwmeTOzDtro/embed/

ikiT

https://instagram.com/p/Bwk2RuvAIz5/embed/

Bentleyspop

josevolution said:

Tiki said:

When they get back...next week.

GOP party of cowards spineless individuals !

As well as their supporters/voters

ikiT

so weak
https://splinternews.com/mitch-mcconnell-promises-to-block-progressive-legislati-1834227884

mrussel1

I understand and empathize the desire to address it and put it on the record.  My opinion may change after hearing the testimony of McGahn and Mueller.  For now,  I'm loathe to do anything that increases his chances of reelection,  and using history as a guide,  this might.  

I hate to sound like a politician,  but I am data driven,  so I'd like to see where independent Americans stand as well.  

Halifax2TheMax

Meanwhile 

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

I understand and empathize the desire to address it and put it on the record.  My opinion may change after hearing the testimony of McGahn and Mueller.  For now,  I'm loathe to do anything that increases his chances of reelection,  and using history as a guide,  this might.  

I hate to sound like a politician,  but I am data driven,  so I'd like to see where independent Americans stand as well.  

I personally think it's their elected duty to start impeachment proceedings based on what they are all saying they believe.  To allow politics to keep you from doing your elected duty ... that's exactly part of what Trump is certainly guilty of.