Donald Trump
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Tiki said:
NOTHING to SEE HERE.bootlegger10 said:
He made a deal. I am no legal expert. Celebrities and politicians make payments all the time to avoid embarrassment.OnWis97 said:
So he plead guilty to something that may not have been illegal?bootlegger10 said:
A billion dollars gets spent on campaigns. All of Washington is about money and winning elections. Cohen plead guilty and no jury had to decide whether this was illegal. Reporters are paid to write articles to influence elections.rgambs said:
It is illegal to pay someone in an attempt to influence an election.bootlegger10 said:I am skeptical that these payoffs would be ruled illegal when challenged in court. He could have paid off those women for any number of reasons. Is it illegal to pay a woman not to tell your wife you cheated with her? Hopefully Cohen has more stuff on Trump that is an actual crime/harm instead of sleaze.
no collusion
First, this had nothing to do with collusion, but paying off women he had affairs with. He is a sleaze and I'm sure colluded on Russia. But, in this particular instance I don't think paying off the women is going to create any criminal issues for Trump (unless it came out of campaign funds). Just typing my thoughts on a message board.0 -
It’s not about the affairs. It’s about the money. How it moves, how it’s hidden, whether it’s declared, taxes are paid and where it comes from and from whom. It’s always been about the money and Team Mueller is tracking it down. Laundering money, not declaring income, and not paying taxes, as well as accepting money from sources that you know or SHOULD have known (burden is on the receiver to do due diligence to determine this) to have come from illgotten mean, is illegal. Covering all of that up is obstruction of justice,bootlegger10 said:Tiki said:
NOTHING to SEE HERE.bootlegger10 said:
He made a deal. I am no legal expert. Celebrities and politicians make payments all the time to avoid embarrassment.OnWis97 said:
So he plead guilty to something that may not have been illegal?bootlegger10 said:
A billion dollars gets spent on campaigns. All of Washington is about money and winning elections. Cohen plead guilty and no jury had to decide whether this was illegal. Reporters are paid to write articles to influence elections.rgambs said:
It is illegal to pay someone in an attempt to influence an election.bootlegger10 said:I am skeptical that these payoffs would be ruled illegal when challenged in court. He could have paid off those women for any number of reasons. Is it illegal to pay a woman not to tell your wife you cheated with her? Hopefully Cohen has more stuff on Trump that is an actual crime/harm instead of sleaze.
no collusion
First, this had nothing to do with collusion, but paying off women he had affairs with. He is a sleaze and I'm sure colluded on Russia. But, in this particular instance I don't think paying off the women is going to create any criminal issues for Trump (unless it came out of campaign funds). Just typing my thoughts on a message board.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Maybe the head of the IRS could fast track the audit of Team Trump Treason’s tax returns so he’ll release them? You know, shed a little light and exhibit some transparency as well as illustrate that wrapping up investigations efficiently and quickly doesn’t just apply to Team Mueller?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum0 -
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forumBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
about the whole "a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted" thing. Then why would he be legally able to pardon himself if he can't be charged in the first place?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.0 -
It's about changing the subject .bootlegger10 said:Tiki said:
NOTHING to SEE HERE.bootlegger10 said:
He made a deal. I am no legal expert. Celebrities and politicians make payments all the time to avoid embarrassment.OnWis97 said:
So he plead guilty to something that may not have been illegal?bootlegger10 said:
A billion dollars gets spent on campaigns. All of Washington is about money and winning elections. Cohen plead guilty and no jury had to decide whether this was illegal. Reporters are paid to write articles to influence elections.rgambs said:
It is illegal to pay someone in an attempt to influence an election.bootlegger10 said:I am skeptical that these payoffs would be ruled illegal when challenged in court. He could have paid off those women for any number of reasons. Is it illegal to pay a woman not to tell your wife you cheated with her? Hopefully Cohen has more stuff on Trump that is an actual crime/harm instead of sleaze.
no collusion
First, this had nothing to do with collusion, but paying off women he had affairs with. He is a sleaze and I'm sure colluded on Russia. But, in this particular instance I don't think paying off the women is going to create any criminal issues for Trump (unless it came out of campaign funds). Just typing my thoughts on a message board.
Electoral Crime is STILL CRIME. Conspiracy is a CRIME.
Getting caught and lying about it and saying Obama did it too? Stupid.
Complicit R's in Congress? Good luck.
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no, I'm not playing you. I didn't realize the bolded part.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
no, I'm not playing you. I didn't realize the bolded part.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.
Of course trump would have the right to deny this and present his evidence if he agrees to a subpoena to appear in court.0 -
when does my boy Don-Don Jr get to join the fun?
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Trump says 'everybody would be very poor' if he's impeached
lol
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this just shows, again, how fucking out of touch he is. like "everyone" has all their money tied into the stock market.my2hands said:Trump says 'everybody would be very poor' if he's impeached
lol
"hey, MAW, the DOW just went up 200 points!"
"sa-WEET, Cletus! now we can buy a new awning for the trailer!"By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.
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Nice breakdown.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.0 -
I found it to be a bit of a reach as well. But I clearly don't know as much about campaign laws as others, so we'll see.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I don't think you quite understand what's going on here. Cohen has pled guilty to this as a crime. He, the prosecution and the judge also agreed that this was a crime. He committed this crime under the direction of Trump, he stated so under oath with no benefits from cooperation. This is no small thing and can't be compared to eating some fast food. Trump, if he wasn't currently president, would be charged as a co-conspirator.bootlegger10 said:
Until the law actually says in a court of law that Trump is guilty on this particular matter, than I will be skeptical. Is buying a happy meal at McDonalds so Trump doesn’t pass out from lack of food and hurt his campaign a campaign contribution? That is extreme but I just don’t think this is a black and white issue and if competent attorneys get involved for Trump I could see this one going his way.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
um, lies? this is exactly what I have read. And I guess I don't quite understand what you mean about trump making illegal contributions to his own campaign.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:paying hush money to people is not a crime. not even in an election. if it was, he just admitted to committing a crime on fox and friends.
if he used campaign funds is the issue. at least that's my understanding.
Trump was the DONOR, making illegal campaign contributions . Illegal in both amount and lack of disclosure. (Allegedly)
The campaign crimes against Cohen are FELONIES.
Geez, the right wing lies are even infiltrating a liberal bands political forum
You're playing me, right?
Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the benefit of his campaign for president.
The law considers this to be campaign money and a campaign contribution. There are recordings of trump discussing these payments in connection w the election.
The law includes limits to the amounts of such contributions...these are obviously far above those limits.
Also, we know they were not disclosed. We know he publicly denied making them.
We have also heard the recording with his voice, discussing them in advance.
This seems to be public evidence of Trump committing at least two felonies...and no, Obama never did this.0
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