Donald Trump

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

I feel like some laws need to be changed or amendments added when it comes to this. Trump has highlighted some serious holes in the office of the president. The US needs to take steps that will work better to control a maniac in the White House.

Not really. We just need congress doing their job. 

But hes only been in for less than 2 years and all kinds of crap headed his way....so while it may not move fast enough it seems like the checks and balances are working.

The Juggler

PJ_Soul said:

I feel like some laws need to be changed or amendments added when it comes to this. Trump has highlighted some serious holes in the office of the president. The US needs to take steps that will work better to control a maniac in the White House.

One thing I absolutely hope comes out of this is to make it a prerequisite that all candidates must release their tax returns going back 10 years at least....

HughFreakingDillon

The Juggler said:

PJ_Soul said:

I feel like some laws need to be changed or amendments added when it comes to this. Trump has highlighted some serious holes in the office of the president. The US needs to take steps that will work better to control a maniac in the White House.

One thing I absolutely hope comes out of this is to make it a prerequisite that all candidates must release their tax returns going back 10 years at least....

and lifelong SCJ's should not be appointed. oh, sorry, "nominated". 

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

I feel like some laws need to be changed or amendments added when it comes to this. Trump has highlighted some serious holes in the office of the president. The US needs to take steps that will work better to control a maniac in the White House.

Not really. We just need congress doing their job. 

But hes only been in for less than 2 years and all kinds of crap headed his way....so while it may not move fast enough it seems like the checks and balances are working.

But when was the last time Congress did any kind of good job?? Obviously nobody can count on Congress. That's why laws needs to be changed.
And I disagree that the checks and balances are all working. Trump has done an incredible amount of damage already. Checks and balances aren't exactly useful if they happen after the fact.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

I feel like some laws need to be changed or amendments added when it comes to this. Trump has highlighted some serious holes in the office of the president. The US needs to take steps that will work better to control a maniac in the White House.

Not really. We just need congress doing their job. 

But hes only been in for less than 2 years and all kinds of crap headed his way....so while it may not move fast enough it seems like the checks and balances are working.

But when was the last time Congress did any kind of good job?? Obviously nobody can count on Congress. That's why laws needs to be changed.
And I disagree that the checks and balances are all working. Trump has done an incredible amount of damage already. Checks and balances aren't exactly useful if they happen after the fact.

yeah I'm not sure what checks and balances have already worked.  

ikiT

The glacial pace that the US gubbmint (established 1789...) proceeds at as far as dealing with an unfit President needs to be addressed. 

However Constitutionally speaking..... this is all that's happening.

Spiritual_Chaos

Avenatti on Cuomo! 

This is like Trent Reznor and Eddie Vedder sharing vocals. 

Lerxst1992

cincybearcat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JC29856 said:

my2hands said:

meanwhile.... I go to foxnews.com.... and the headline splashed across my screen is

MONSTER DOWN THE ROAD: illegal immigrant arrested in murder of Mollie Tibbetts

they just spoon feed their watchers this xenophobic bullshit and they swallow it down and repeat it.... its a very sad story, no doubt.... but the only reason its a story nationally is because the guy wasn't an American citizen... the sad reality is people get abducted and murdered every day by American citizens... but let it be a white woman and an undocumented immigrant and holy shit, look out

I warned you.
immigration screamed from:
The Right: illegal immigrants rape and murder
The Left: separating children from parents

And how many violent crimes occur at the hands of US citizens?

Too many.  Does that mean we should ignore it when our laws have failed and that person here illegally commits a crime? Certainly doesn’t mean illegal immigrants are more violent...they are less so actually...but it still shows a breakdown of our really poor immigration system. I think that should be highlighted when it’s a contributing factor to anything. Or shall we just ignore it cause citizen guys kill girls all the time too?

I agree, too many. I'm pointing out that they're using an isolated incident to drum up the base and marginalize innocent people.

ikiT

Lerxst1992 said:

cincybearcat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JC29856 said:

my2hands said:

meanwhile.... I go to foxnews.com.... and the headline splashed across my screen is

MONSTER DOWN THE ROAD: illegal immigrant arrested in murder of Mollie Tibbetts

they just spoon feed their watchers this xenophobic bullshit and they swallow it down and repeat it.... its a very sad story, no doubt.... but the only reason its a story nationally is because the guy wasn't an American citizen... the sad reality is people get abducted and murdered every day by American citizens... but let it be a white woman and an undocumented immigrant and holy shit, look out

I warned you.
immigration screamed from:
The Right: illegal immigrants rape and murder
The Left: separating children from parents

And how many violent crimes occur at the hands of US citizens?

Too many.  Does that mean we should ignore it when our laws have failed and that person here illegally commits a crime? Certainly doesn’t mean illegal immigrants are more violent...they are less so actually...but it still shows a breakdown of our really poor immigration system. I think that should be highlighted when it’s a contributing factor to anything. Or shall we just ignore it cause citizen guys kill girls all the time too?

I agree, too many. I'm pointing out that they're using an isolated incident to drum up the base and marginalize innocent people.

A tragic but statistically impossible incident...like winning the lottery and getting struck by lightning when you deposit the check.

Bentleyspop

Lerxst1992 said:

JC29856 said:

my2hands said:

meanwhile.... I go to foxnews.com.... and the headline splashed across my screen is

MONSTER DOWN THE ROAD: illegal immigrant arrested in murder of Mollie Tibbetts

they just spoon feed their watchers this xenophobic bullshit and they swallow it down and repeat it.... its a very sad story, no doubt.... but the only reason its a story nationally is because the guy wasn't an American citizen... the sad reality is people get abducted and murdered every day by American citizens... but let it be a white woman and an undocumented immigrant and holy shit, look out

I warned you.
immigration screamed from:
The Right: illegal immigrants rape and murder
The Left: separating children from parents

And how many violent crimes occur at the hands of US citizens?

From the Washington post...

Numerous studies have failed to demonstrate that immigrants, legal or otherwise, pose a unique threat of committing crimes. In fact, some have shown that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens. For documented immigrants, that number is even lower.

That hasn’t stopped people from seizing on another powerful anti-immigration anecdote.

The Juggler

Bentley's Poop  ---every time I see your name that's what I see. Sorry man. Every time!

Bentleyspop

The Juggler said:

Bentley's Poop  ---every time I see your name that's what I see. Sorry man. Every time!

I see it three times a day.

And speaking of poop....it looks like another supporter of the Racist-inChief and a responsible gun owner gets to do hard time.....

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1032383415646019584?s=19

A Klansman caught on video firing a gun in the middle of the 2017 white nationalist "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville has been sentenced to four years in prison https://t.co/gx5NG7QHiO https://t.co/llBeFfPJ5m

Halifax2TheMax

Bentleyspop said:

The Juggler said:

Bentley's Poop  ---every time I see your name that's what I see. Sorry man. Every time!

I see it three times a day.

And speaking of poop....it looks like another supporter of the Racist-inChief and a responsible gun owner gets to do hard time.....

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1032383415646019584?s=19

A Klansman caught on video firing a gun in the middle of the 2017 white nationalist "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville has been sentenced to four years in prison https://t.co/gx5NG7QHiO https://t.co/llBeFfPJ5m

Maybe he should have worn khakis and a polo shirt?

Halifax2TheMax

Guess who’s really fucked now? I’ll spot you three Ts and a fourth with an R. No pardons available and ratchets up the pressure on Cohen to “cooperate.” Dots! I love fucking dots!

New York state subpoenas Michael Cohen in Trump Foundation probe - NBC News https://apple.news/Am3dEyAZ9R2Sy730Q89T88Q

igotid88

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1032372224781500416

dignin

Poll: Mueller approval rating jumps 11 points

The poll revealed that 59 percent of registered voters approve of Mueller’s investigation, marking an 11-point jump from respondents who said the same in a July Fox News poll. Thirty-seven percent of respondents said they disapprove of Mueller's probe.


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403161-poll-mueller-approval-rating-jumps-by-11-points

igotid88

dignin said:

Poll: Mueller approval rating jumps 11 points

The poll revealed that 59 percent of registered voters approve of Mueller’s investigation, marking an 11-point jump from respondents who said the same in a July Fox News poll. Thirty-seven percent of respondents said they disapprove of Mueller's probe.


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403161-poll-mueller-approval-rating-jumps-by-11-points

59% is still too low. I wonder what's the percentage of republicans? 

Go Beavers

igotid88 said:

dignin said:

Poll: Mueller approval rating jumps 11 points

The poll revealed that 59 percent of registered voters approve of Mueller’s investigation, marking an 11-point jump from respondents who said the same in a July Fox News poll. Thirty-seven percent of respondents said they disapprove of Mueller's probe.


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403161-poll-mueller-approval-rating-jumps-by-11-points

59% is still too low. I wonder what's the percentage of republicans? 

It's understandable with 37% disapproval of the probe. That's essentially the approval rating trump has now.

igotid88

Go Beavers said:

igotid88 said:

dignin said:

Poll: Mueller approval rating jumps 11 points

The poll revealed that 59 percent of registered voters approve of Mueller’s investigation, marking an 11-point jump from respondents who said the same in a July Fox News poll. Thirty-seven percent of respondents said they disapprove of Mueller's probe.


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403161-poll-mueller-approval-rating-jumps-by-11-points

59% is still too low. I wonder what's the percentage of republicans? 

It's understandable with 37% disapproval of the probe. That's essentially the approval rating trump has now.

you know it would have been 80% if it was Hillary

The Juggler

dignin said:

Poll: Mueller approval rating jumps 11 points

The poll revealed that 59 percent of registered voters approve of Mueller’s investigation, marking an 11-point jump from respondents who said the same in a July Fox News poll. Thirty-seven percent of respondents said they disapprove of Mueller's probe.


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403161-poll-mueller-approval-rating-jumps-by-11-points

Not surprising. As more actual evidence is presented and guilty pleas are entered and folks are sent to jail more people will start paying attention. Most Americans can see through the bullshit.