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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,392
    I like this poster very much.  It takes an obvious position. The artist shows that he feels that there’s chaos and violence in the current White House.

    I was glad to see this poster because it looked as angry as I’ve been feeling about the president and the corruption he has encouraged since he’s been in office.



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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,392
    Does anyone else think the most outrageous part of the poster is Tester ramping over the carnage on a tractor? Hilarious
    It’s funny!
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  • blackhawksblackhawks Posts: 307

    The Republican Party and Fox News are upset about a poster.

    Let the simplicity and the pettiness and irony of that sink it briefly before I launch into the pure fuckery that is our Government. 

    A poster. 
    A poster.

    No... 
    Listen... 
    A poster.

    A rock n' roll poster has made NATIONAL news. 

    Not a group of Nazi's with tiki torches marching at a college. 
    Not a car plowing through protesters.
    Not a madman with an assault rifle killing children.
    Not a president who has pulled out of the Paris Accords.
    Not children being caged.
    Not when the President cut funding for Public Television. 
    Not native Americans being forced off their land for a pipeline.
    Not a president who openly admitted to sexually assaulting females.
    Not a president who had a sexual relationship with a porn star. 
    AND COVERED IT UP WITH HUSH MONEY!!!!
    Not a proven relationship with a foreign government who influenced the American voting process.

    No... they aren't upset or outraged about ANY of those things.

    Do you hear what I'm saying?

    A poster.

    A rock n roll poster...

    A POSTER for a ROCK CONCERT has literally upset the the Republican Party.   
    The Republican Party is the the group who has coined the phrase "snowflake" and who has admonished millennials for being overly sensitive.

    What kind of twisted, bizarro alternative fucking universe are we living in?  

    You've got your panties allllllll twisted because of a poster.

    Let me get out this tiny violin for you multi-millionaires.

    Pulling out of the Paris climate agreement where the US paid for 85% of other country’s emission issues while taking jobs from said US?  What is bad about asking them
    to nut up and pay their share?  Which they refused and stood by the accord and we plled
    out?  Read it and you will say thank
    you to Trump and fuck Obama.  That was pulling the wool over taxpayer eyes.  If
    ylj pay taxes you care about that.

    children were not caged.  The whole process of how the mules use children for illegal
    immigration is new to you apparently.  Not to me living in AZ dealing with it.  Come
    to Nogales and spend a week and tell me
    how you like it.

    why do my tax dollars have to support a TV station?  Why?  Explain that to me please because I am not cool with that.

     Nobody was forced off anywhere for a pipeline.  I am not reliving the whole thing but a bunch of unemployed protesters did worse for the environment than the pipeline with the massive amounts of waste they left behind after being forced to leave.  No protests since.I guess Soros must have bigger fish to fry.  But actually talking residents of the state the disdain for the imported protesters....they are lucky they left the state alive.  Yeah...i
    diisn’t listen to the press but went
    to the sources.  

    He wasn’t president when banging a porn star. Pre prez. I don’t care what anyone does before they take office.  You shouldn’t either.

    I would like people to not just listen to CNN/FOX and make their decisions.  Do a little bit of work before blowing the press pole.

    The bizarro world of people who take everything CNN/Fox spews as fact relates to the lowest common denominator individual.  I expect more of our population as well as PJ fans.  From a 2 time Obama voter here.  Get your shit straight before becoming the bitch of the DNC-Republicans.  

     






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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t get calling them conservative snowflakes for not liking this.
    If some country band had the same poster with Obama, do you not think there’d be 10 times the outrage? With accusations of racism and everything else.
    im not offended, but I get why some would be.
    What did Obama do to be hated so much that he would be depicted on a poster in such a way? Other than be black?
    I’m not saying he did.
    i just find it funny that conservatives get made fun of for being offended for something like this, but if the shoe was on the other foot there’s probably be marches and boycotts over it.
    I also think it’s very understandable to be upset that a current president is depicted as dead with a bird eating him. Also why I don’t get the poking fun at them.
    Having racist undertones isn't comparable. There is nothing racist about this poster. And yeah, as mentioned, Trump DESERVES this kind of reaction. He's created it himself. I think it's pretty crazy for conservatives to think that Trump is going to get away with what he does without any kind of backlash, including through artistic expression.
    That was basically my point. No one mentioned racism, I just said I find it funny that many are making fun of those who are offended, when I know for a fact there would be even more outrage if this poster came out a few years ago depicting Obama.
    Your response is that having racist undertones isn’t comparable. All I said was if this has Obama instead, and now that is suddenly racist?
    Why are conservatives “snowflakes” for getting offended, but it’s okay to accuse anyone who doesn’t like obama as a racist?
    I think the poster is sort of ugly, but the symbolism doesn’t bother me. I’d buy it if it actually said “Pearl Jam” anywhere one it and I was there.
    I just find the difference funny. All the lashing towards anyone who is offended, but imagine a poster made of Hilary? Facebook would crash from all the responses and protests over it. I have no doubt the hysteria would be 10 times what it is if this depicted anyone on the left, so let’s just stop poking fun at everyone who doesn’t like it. Or not, because it’s actually amusing to me when they do.
    Kind of a moot point, Mace.  Obama never had nearly the detractors Trump has.  In fact, I don' think any president had as many detractors.  His supporters are loud and vocal, but he is the worst president with the lowest rating of any, ever.   So  there never would have been a poster like this before, except maybe for Bush, but he actually fared better.  He got a mask!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477

    The Republican Party and Fox News are upset about a poster.

    Let the simplicity and the pettiness and irony of that sink it briefly before I launch into the pure fuckery that is our Government. 

    A poster. 
    A poster.

    No... 
    Listen... 
    A poster.

    A rock n' roll poster has made NATIONAL news. 

    Not a group of Nazi's with tiki torches marching at a college. 
    Not a car plowing through protesters.
    Not a madman with an assault rifle killing children.
    Not a president who has pulled out of the Paris Accords.
    Not children being caged.
    Not when the President cut funding for Public Television. 
    Not native Americans being forced off their land for a pipeline.
    Not a president who openly admitted to sexually assaulting females.
    Not a president who had a sexual relationship with a porn star. 
    AND COVERED IT UP WITH HUSH MONEY!!!!
    Not a proven relationship with a foreign government who influenced the American voting process.

    No... they aren't upset or outraged about ANY of those things.

    Do you hear what I'm saying?

    A poster.

    A rock n roll poster...

    A POSTER for a ROCK CONCERT has literally upset the the Republican Party.   
    The Republican Party is the the group who has coined the phrase "snowflake" and who has admonished millennials for being overly sensitive.

    What kind of twisted, bizarro alternative fucking universe are we living in?  

    You've got your panties allllllll twisted because of a poster.

    Let me get out this tiny violin for you multi-millionaires.

    Pulling out of the Paris climate agreement where the US paid for 85% of other country’s emission issues while taking jobs from said US?  What is bad about asking them
    to nut up and pay their share?  Which they refused and stood by the accord and we plled
    out?  Read it and you will say thank
    you to Trump and fuck Obama.  That was pulling the wool over taxpayer eyes.  If
    ylj pay taxes you care about that.

    children were not caged.  The whole process of how the mules use children for illegal
    immigration is new to you apparently.  Not to me living in AZ dealing with it.  Come
    to Nogales and spend a week and tell me
    how you like it.

    why do my tax dollars have to support a TV station?  Why?  Explain that to me please because I am not cool with that.

     Nobody was forced off anywhere for a pipeline.  I am not reliving the whole thing but a bunch of unemployed protesters did worse for the environment than the pipeline with the massive amounts of waste they left behind after being forced to leave.  No protests since.I guess Soros must have bigger fish to fry.  But actually talking residents of the state the disdain for the imported protesters....they are lucky they left the state alive.  Yeah...i
    diisn’t listen to the press but went
    to the sources.  

    He wasn’t president when banging a porn star. Pre prez. I don’t care what anyone does before they take office.  You shouldn’t either.

    I would like people to not just listen to CNN/FOX and make their decisions.  Do a little bit of work before blowing the press pole.

    The bizarro world of people who take everything CNN/Fox spews as fact relates to the lowest common denominator individual.  I expect more of our population as well as PJ fans.  From a 2 time Obama voter here.  Get your shit straight before becoming the bitch of the DNC-Republicans.  

     






    What’s your argument there about the Paris Climate Accord withdrawal again?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/fact-check-trump-reasons-for-leaving-paris-agreement-2017-6
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    JC29856 said:
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
    Are we getting a guilty verdict today? Manaforte hamma  slamma?

    “Oddities?” Is that a topping?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    The Republican Party and Fox News are upset about a poster.

    Let the simplicity and the pettiness and irony of that sink it briefly before I launch into the pure fuckery that is our Government. 

    A poster. 
    A poster.

    No... 
    Listen... 
    A poster.

    A rock n' roll poster has made NATIONAL news. 

    Not a group of Nazi's with tiki torches marching at a college. 
    Not a car plowing through protesters.
    Not a madman with an assault rifle killing children.
    Not a president who has pulled out of the Paris Accords.
    Not children being caged.
    Not when the President cut funding for Public Television. 
    Not native Americans being forced off their land for a pipeline.
    Not a president who openly admitted to sexually assaulting females.
    Not a president who had a sexual relationship with a porn star. 
    AND COVERED IT UP WITH HUSH MONEY!!!!
    Not a proven relationship with a foreign government who influenced the American voting process.

    No... they aren't upset or outraged about ANY of those things.

    Do you hear what I'm saying?

    A poster.

    A rock n roll poster...

    A POSTER for a ROCK CONCERT has literally upset the the Republican Party.   
    The Republican Party is the the group who has coined the phrase "snowflake" and who has admonished millennials for being overly sensitive.

    What kind of twisted, bizarro alternative fucking universe are we living in?  

    You've got your panties allllllll twisted because of a poster.

    Let me get out this tiny violin for you multi-millionaires.

    Pulling out of the Paris climate agreement where the US paid for 85% of other country’s emission issues while taking jobs from said US?  What is bad about asking them
    to nut up and pay their share?  Which they refused and stood by the accord and we plled
    out?  Read it and you will say thank
    you to Trump and fuck Obama.  That was pulling the wool over taxpayer eyes.  If
    ylj pay taxes you care about that.

    children were not caged.  The whole process of how the mules use children for illegal
    immigration is new to you apparently.  Not to me living in AZ dealing with it.  Come
    to Nogales and spend a week and tell me
    how you like it.

    why do my tax dollars have to support a TV station?  Why?  Explain that to me please because I am not cool with that.

     Nobody was forced off anywhere for a pipeline.  I am not reliving the whole thing but a bunch of unemployed protesters did worse for the environment than the pipeline with the massive amounts of waste they left behind after being forced to leave.  No protests since.I guess Soros must have bigger fish to fry.  But actually talking residents of the state the disdain for the imported protesters....they are lucky they left the state alive.  Yeah...i
    diisn’t listen to the press but went
    to the sources.  

    He wasn’t president when banging a porn star. Pre prez. I don’t care what anyone does before they take office.  You shouldn’t either.

    I would like people to not just listen to CNN/FOX and make their decisions.  Do a little bit of work before blowing the press pole.

    The bizarro world of people who take everything CNN/Fox spews as fact relates to the lowest common denominator individual.  I expect more of our population as well as PJ fans.  From a 2 time Obama voter here.  Get your shit straight before becoming the bitch of the DNC-Republicans.  

     






    Strange, since you just rattled off a bunch of Fox talking points...

    Fuck Obama, Unemployed protestors, and George Soros were pretty strong hints lol

    And yes, children were torn from their families, caged, and a bunch will never see their parents again. You people have zero fucking empathy and it's disgusting. But feel free to worry about the mules.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    JC29856 said:
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
    What oddities do you speak of? Educate me
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    my2hands said:

    The Republican Party and Fox News are upset about a poster.

    Let the simplicity and the pettiness and irony of that sink it briefly before I launch into the pure fuckery that is our Government. 

    A poster. 
    A poster.

    No... 
    Listen... 
    A poster.

    A rock n' roll poster has made NATIONAL news. 

    Not a group of Nazi's with tiki torches marching at a college. 
    Not a car plowing through protesters.
    Not a madman with an assault rifle killing children.
    Not a president who has pulled out of the Paris Accords.
    Not children being caged.
    Not when the President cut funding for Public Television. 
    Not native Americans being forced off their land for a pipeline.
    Not a president who openly admitted to sexually assaulting females.
    Not a president who had a sexual relationship with a porn star. 
    AND COVERED IT UP WITH HUSH MONEY!!!!
    Not a proven relationship with a foreign government who influenced the American voting process.

    No... they aren't upset or outraged about ANY of those things.

    Do you hear what I'm saying?

    A poster.

    A rock n roll poster...

    A POSTER for a ROCK CONCERT has literally upset the the Republican Party.   
    The Republican Party is the the group who has coined the phrase "snowflake" and who has admonished millennials for being overly sensitive.

    What kind of twisted, bizarro alternative fucking universe are we living in?  

    You've got your panties allllllll twisted because of a poster.

    Let me get out this tiny violin for you multi-millionaires.

    Pulling out of the Paris climate agreement where the US paid for 85% of other country’s emission issues while taking jobs from said US?  What is bad about asking them
    to nut up and pay their share?  Which they refused and stood by the accord and we plled
    out?  Read it and you will say thank
    you to Trump and fuck Obama.  That was pulling the wool over taxpayer eyes.  If
    ylj pay taxes you care about that.

    children were not caged.  The whole process of how the mules use children for illegal
    immigration is new to you apparently.  Not to me living in AZ dealing with it.  Come
    to Nogales and spend a week and tell me
    how you like it.

    why do my tax dollars have to support a TV station?  Why?  Explain that to me please because I am not cool with that.

     Nobody was forced off anywhere for a pipeline.  I am not reliving the whole thing but a bunch of unemployed protesters did worse for the environment than the pipeline with the massive amounts of waste they left behind after being forced to leave.  No protests since.I guess Soros must have bigger fish to fry.  But actually talking residents of the state the disdain for the imported protesters....they are lucky they left the state alive.  Yeah...i
    diisn’t listen to the press but went
    to the sources.  

    He wasn’t president when banging a porn star. Pre prez. I don’t care what anyone does before they take office.  You shouldn’t either.

    I would like people to not just listen to CNN/FOX and make their decisions.  Do a little bit of work before blowing the press pole.

    The bizarro world of people who take everything CNN/Fox spews as fact relates to the lowest common denominator individual.  I expect more of our population as well as PJ fans.  From a 2 time Obama voter here.  Get your shit straight before becoming the bitch of the DNC-Republicans.  

     






    Strange, since you just rattled off a bunch of Fox talking points...

    Fuck Obama, Unemployed protestors, and George Soros were pretty strong hints lol

    And yes, children were torn from their families, caged, and a bunch will never see their parents again. You people have zero fucking empathy and it's disgusting. But feel free to worry about the mules.
    Yea, this is of no concern, currently, of the repubes in charge. I don’t think I’ve even heard of a congressional committee being formed to investigate the Team Trump Treason’s Administration for child trafficking, much like the Catholic Church scandal in Pennsylvania has raised nary an eyebrow in repube circles. I mean, where’s that speaker of the house Spineless Ryan?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    JC29856 said:
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
    Funny, 3D’ing has no concern for this “oddity.”

    565 Migrant Children Remain Separated From Families 3 Weeks Past Judge's Deadline - HuffPost https://apple.news/AbZ5vzZwYRv2pJC7uV0aPBQ

    Defying a court order? Sound familiar? Will anyone be held to account or have the emails been deleted and the servers bleached already? Oh Julian, oh Julian, help us out!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:
    rgambs said:
    300 priests, 1000 known sexual abuse victims in Pennsylvania alone.
    Catholic Church had full knowledge, performed complete cover up.

    How in the fuck is this poster bigger news than that?
    Or the oddities surrounding the New Mexico kid training compound?
    You just can't resist a shiny new conspiracy theory, can you?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • London BridgeLondon Bridge USA Posts: 4,733

    What would Trump say......This is the GREATEST poster ever. Believe me, I know posters!



  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,136
    What do you think Tester will say when he loses?
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    unsung said:
    josevolution said: I
    Funny no outrage when Obama was hung in effigy by groups of racist idiots or when idiot Nugent call the 1st lady a monkey , hypocrisy reigns in 2018 ...
    Did PJ make a poster of that?  

    That is the point, that is why we are here.  It has nothing to do with feelings or snowflakes or unicorns that fart rainbows.  

    Bush did things a million times more grievous than Trump, all we got was a mask on a mic stand and a couple of songs.

    I think this illustrates the divide in the country and how brazen the left has become when showing their hands to how violent they can or want to be.  There is no love trumps hate, that only applies to the other side when it comes to that standard.

    Maybe the band doesn't care anymore about alienating a portion of the fanbase, certainly people here don't care as evidenced by some replies in this thread, but it seems to no longer be the case of despite our beliefs or our differences we had that common bond and could come together despite all of that for the music.  I truly meant it when I said I'd buy the first round because when the music is going everyone would live in that moment and forget their differences and just be in the present.

    I think it may have started with the harm to gun owners comment, now this.  Is that the direction? This poster is more than Rome is burning, I've said that for years, my core belief is to leave me alone and I leave you alone, now it just seems like it is getting personal.  I find the image of the dead body distasteful and beneath the band frankly.  I never would have guessed they would do that.  The point can be made perfectly clear having the white house on fire, but someone chose to go further instead.

    In case anyone hasn't noticed Jon Tester has been pro gun in the past, so the image of the guy holding the 2nd Amendment on a pro-Tester poster is somewhat confusing as well.


    When you stop voting for the party of treason and pussy grabbing, perhaps some on the left would take your words seriously.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,604
    Its funny because I didnt even realize there was anything up with this poster.  Gazed at it the night of the show, thought to myself, that is an ugly poster, Ill pass on trying to obtain it... and went to sleep, probably to never pay it much mind again.  Woke up and everyone is yelling at each other about something stupid and insignificant.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:

    Wow, he really went after Kanye's free speech.


    https://www.nme.com/news/music/pearl-jam-jeff-ament-interview-trump-kanye-west-2307764


    What do you think of someone like Kanye West recently coming out in support of Trump?

    “I love Kanye, I saw the last Kanye tour and I thought it was one of the greatest things ever, but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way. I think he’s just, you know, with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt. He’s been out of the news for a few months, so I think he’s looking to generate some. He says something about dragons, I don’t know, dragon energy, whatever that is.”

    Does this affect your enjoyment of his music?

    “I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. There’s certain artists where I don’t read their interviews because it really affects me enjoying their music. I wish I hadn’t opened that text that had the article about dragon energy and Donald Trump. It’s unfortunate.”




    Exactly. "...with the Kardashians and that whole thing. All of it is just a big publicity stunt." Way to defend a fellow artist. "Love Kanye...but then when he opened his mouth, I swung the other way." Pathetic if you ask me.
    Explain what this has to do with free speech, other than Jeff exercising his?
    Yeah, I'm not clear on what you're really trying to get at either BS. I don't understand what it is you have a problem with. Are you saying that you think Jeff should not have an opinion about something stupid that Kanye said? Or are you saying he has to like all artists even when they are idiots, or not criticize artists when they say or do something he thinks sucks? I can't quite figure this out, knowing that you do support free speech. I dunno, do you think that there is something wrong with people not separating art from the artist maybe??
    It's a bit of the last point but mainly it is my concern about the "stifling of speech" culture that is spreading all around us like a weed. It is a culture that is happening on both sides. I hated it when conservatives wanted to boycott the dixie chicks and I hated it when liberals wanted to boycott kanye (this was a real suggestion in the hip hop community and amongst urban radio). I hate that this poster is in the fucking news at all...who the fuck cares?!  Free speech is under assault everywhere. Comedy is under assault. Artistic expression is under assault. I am ok with Jeff criticizing Kanye but I am disappointed that he couldn't at least throw the slightest bone to the idea of Kanye's artistic freedom and how it makes him the artist that he is. It wasn't Jeff's direct responsibility to do this but it was a missed opportunity from a band that I know deep down believes in artistic freedom. Like Jeff says...these are troubled times...and during these troubled times opportunities to defend speech should not be missed.
    free speech is not under assault. not in the context of what you are saying, anyway. the government is not telling kanye or jeff they can't say what they want in an open forum. jeff is giving his opinion on kanye's NON-ARTISTIC POLITICAL LEANINGS. this has zero to do with kanye's art. jeff just said he has a hard time saparating the art from the artist, which is something I also have a tough time with. Billy Corgan, for example. if the guy had never done an interview in his life, they might be one of my favrouite bands. But everytime I listen to them, I hear Billy's whining about Britney Spears outselling him, about him being the greatest songwriter of his generation, how people don't appreciate his genius, all that shit. some people on the right have a tough time separating pj from ed's leftist rants, and I get it. 

    frankly, I'm amazed you make the claim that free speech is under assault. if anything, it's being exercised more than ever with people giving opinions on everything under the sun, and with social media, everyone has a bloody platfofrm, or at least they think they do. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t get calling them conservative snowflakes for not liking this.
    If some country band had the same poster with Obama, do you not think there’d be 10 times the outrage? With accusations of racism and everything else.
    im not offended, but I get why some would be.
    What did Obama do to be hated so much that he would be depicted on a poster in such a way? Other than be black?
    I’m not saying he did.
    i just find it funny that conservatives get made fun of for being offended for something like this, but if the shoe was on the other foot there’s probably be marches and boycotts over it.
    I also think it’s very understandable to be upset that a current president is depicted as dead with a bird eating him. Also why I don’t get the poking fun at them.
    Having racist undertones isn't comparable. There is nothing racist about this poster. And yeah, as mentioned, Trump DESERVES this kind of reaction. He's created it himself. I think it's pretty crazy for conservatives to think that Trump is going to get away with what he does without any kind of backlash, including through artistic expression.
    That was basically my point. No one mentioned racism, I just said I find it funny that many are making fun of those who are offended, when I know for a fact there would be even more outrage if this poster came out a few years ago depicting Obama.
    Your response is that having racist undertones isn’t comparable. All I said was if this has Obama instead, and now that is suddenly racist?
    Why are conservatives “snowflakes” for getting offended, but it’s okay to accuse anyone who doesn’t like obama as a racist?
    I think the poster is sort of ugly, but the symbolism doesn’t bother me. I’d buy it if it actually said “Pearl Jam” anywhere one it and I was there.
    I just find the difference funny. All the lashing towards anyone who is offended, but imagine a poster made of Hilary? Facebook would crash from all the responses and protests over it. I have no doubt the hysteria would be 10 times what it is if this depicted anyone on the left, so let’s just stop poking fun at everyone who doesn’t like it. Or not, because it’s actually amusing to me when they do.
    you know, I've been thinking about this, and yes, if the poster were of obama and it was something to the effect of him hanging from a tree or something, the outrage would be justified. but if it was just exactly as this poster is, with obama in trump's place, I do believe the outrage would be incredible, but not justified. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,604
    I agree with the Canadian's last 3 posts.  I wish we had more Canadians living in the USA
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,384
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree with the Canadian's last 3 posts.  I wish we had more Canadians living in the USA

    Same
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,586
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree with the Canadian's last 3 posts.  I wish we had more Canadians living in the USA
    We would if they would annex Oregon and Washington 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
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    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
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    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    Is that a UFO in there on the left? Maybe the Aliens did it? Maybe Trump could turn this into support for his space force! 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    If Obama acted, spoke, tweeted and governed like Team Trump Treason, no. It’s not like Team Trump Treason and his Administration have been inclusive or concerned.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    If Obama acted, spoke, tweeted and governed like Team Trump Treason, no. It’s not like Team Trump Treason and his Administration have been inclusive or concerned.
    not relevant.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    If Obama acted, spoke, tweeted and governed like Team Trump Treason, no. It’s not like Team Trump Treason and his Administration have been inclusive or concerned.
    not relevant.  
    Sure it is. If Obama was the same level of douche as Team Trump Treason you wouldn’t see as much outrage from the left. You’d probably see calls for impeachment.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,586
    PJPOWER said:
    this poster does not depict anything violent. I'm not sure how anyone can make that claim. if tester was standing over trump with Negan's baseball bat, then sure, but all it shows is his skeleton. this is so not a big deal. 
    I agree.  I can see how some might see it as “distasteful” on a artistic personal preference level, but otherwise I believe it falls under the 1st Amendment rights category.  But I also agree with your previous comment about the outrage by thin skinned individuals if the tables were turned.  It’s just a fucking politically inspired concert poster at the end of the day, not a call for violence or threat or anything that would take it out of the realm of 1st Amendment protected rights.  
    It most likely wouldn’t be one that I would hang on my wall due to the political nature (I prefer to display more light hearted artwork in my house), but could see it being a cool “signs of the times” piece of artwork in the future.
    anyone on the left claiming there wouldn't be absolute outrage and condemnation if this was Obama is kidding themseleves. even if it somehow, miraculously, couldn't be misconstrued as racially motivated, the left would still go apeshit over it. 
    I disagree. A conservative rock bands poster with a zombie Obama wouldn’t have elevated to the media circuit like this poster. Therefore there would be less of a reaction. Conservatives like to play victim, both a victim of liberals and liberal artists/hollywood. Right wing media picks up on all of this quickly and feeds the mentality. 
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