Stop with the anti-Trump crusade, it's boring!

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  • StuffnJunk
    StuffnJunk Posts: 897
    oftenreading said:
    StuffnJunk said:
    deadendp said:
    This is a subject brought up every single tour.

    Every single tour, a thread about it is locked.  

    Asking PJ to discontinue speaking about politics is like asking Trump to stop tweeting.  Neither one is ever going to happen.  Believe me, I would love it if we were DT tweet-free.  
    But we can be asked, or told, not to post about it here. No irony there.
    They get locked because of how people post, not the fact that they post about political discussio
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • StuffnJunk
    StuffnJunk Posts: 897
    Yes cursing and name calling is reserved for Eddie
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    oftenreading said:
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
    I hope they do too. I think they are using their platform wisely. If I was going to any of the shows, I would be cheering loudly too.
    "A beacon on dry land"
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,955
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,545
    edited June 2018
    cp3iverson said:
    I dont like politics in general.  I avoid talking about politics as much as i can. Its a waste of breath.  Everyone thinks that their side is the correct side and everyone does the same petty, immature stuff that they accuse the other side of doing.  It’s hilarious really. 

    It’s their mic tho.  They can say whatever they want.  It’s definitely not a new thing at a PJ show. I don’t go to concerts anymore in general so it doesnt bother me one way or the other. :lol:
    Same as you, I can't stand talking politics but when I come across them, I thoroughly enjoy watching political debates on social media including on here, and especially on the Official PJ 10C members FB page. Most times I see people (from all sides) say shit there that makes me feel better about what type of person I am and how my brain is wired. 
    Post edited by crookedcross on
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 

    Do you dispute that he was born to a wealthy family and benefited greatly from that?

    Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father beginning in 1949; Trump’s paternal grandmother also set up a trust fund for him in 1949.[78] In 1976, Fred Trump set up trust funds of $1 million for each of his five children and three grandchildren; Donald Trump received annual payments from his trust fund, for example $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981.[78] By 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's fortune was $35 million each.[79][78] Upon Fred Trump’s death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[78][80][81]

    Trump said that he began his career with "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father, but did not acknowledge his father's role in backing a $70 million loan during the construction of the Grand Hyatt hotel at the same time.[78][82] He appeared on the initial Forbes 400 list of richest Americans in 1982 with an estimated $200 million fortune shared with his father.[83] An ex-Forbes reporter said in 2018 that Trump had inflated his actual wealth in order to be included on the list.


    From wikipedia

    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    oftenreading said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 

    Do you dispute that he was born to a wealthy family and benefited greatly from that?

    Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father beginning in 1949; Trump’s paternal grandmother also set up a trust fund for him in 1949.[78] In 1976, Fred Trump set up trust funds of $1 million for each of his five children and three grandchildren; Donald Trump received annual payments from his trust fund, for example $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981.[78] By 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's fortune was $35 million each.[79][78] Upon Fred Trump’s death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[78][80][81]

    Trump said that he began his career with "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father, but did not acknowledge his father's role in backing a $70 million loan during the construction of the Grand Hyatt hotel at the same time.[78][82] He appeared on the initial Forbes 400 list of richest Americans in 1982 with an estimated $200 million fortune shared with his father.[83] An ex-Forbes reporter said in 2018 that Trump had inflated his actual wealth in order to be included on the list.


    From wikipedia

    Not really 
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    oftenreading said:
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
    Moi aussi.
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    I’d like a president who isn’t a racist bigot clown who is destroying this country. Pj has the mic, u don’t like it, don’t listen. 
  • my_wave
    my_wave clearwater, FL Posts: 355
    I will never understand how anyone can be a fan of this band and not know where they stand when it comes to politics. It's been crystal clear since the very beginning, and it's something they've always been very vocal about. It's part of who they are and something they're very passionate about. 
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  • link93
    link93 Posts: 414
    I know where PJ lies on the political spectrum, so it doesn't really bother me. Other than I would rather have more time listening to music. Plus attacking Trump has to be about the easiest non controversial political stance to take ever, so why waste the time, when everyone else is attacking him 24/7. Lately, when it comes to politics I wish people could come together from both sides and talk about solutions we need as a country. Now everyone seems to be I'm right and you`re wrong and if you don't believe exactly what I do I hate you. Not a good way to fix things that need to be fixed. We are better than that. I will now get off my soapbox.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,891
    Speak up. Speak out. Do what you can to stop this man. In Europe you won't  find a fan of trump so it's welcomed here to speak out. Thank you


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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    People are still supporting Trump?

    Dear god, why?


    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,545
    oftenreading said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 

    Do you dispute that he was born to a wealthy family and benefited greatly from that?

    Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father beginning in 1949; Trump’s paternal grandmother also set up a trust fund for him in 1949.[78] In 1976, Fred Trump set up trust funds of $1 million for each of his five children and three grandchildren; Donald Trump received annual payments from his trust fund, for example $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981.[78] By 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's fortune was $35 million each.[79][78] Upon Fred Trump’s death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[78][80][81]

    Trump said that he began his career with "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father, but did not acknowledge his father's role in backing a $70 million loan during the construction of the Grand Hyatt hotel at the same time.[78][82] He appeared on the initial Forbes 400 list of richest Americans in 1982 with an estimated $200 million fortune shared with his father.[83] An ex-Forbes reporter said in 2018 that Trump had inflated his actual wealth in order to be included on the list.


    From wikipedia

    How are you going to come back with wikipedia?  Not saying info is wrong, but you gotta get better than wikipedia
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited June 2018
    crookedcross said:
    oftenreading said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 

    Do you dispute that he was born to a wealthy family and benefited greatly from that?

    Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father beginning in 1949; Trump’s paternal grandmother also set up a trust fund for him in 1949.[78] In 1976, Fred Trump set up trust funds of $1 million for each of his five children and three grandchildren; Donald Trump received annual payments from his trust fund, for example $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981.[78] By 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's fortune was $35 million each.[79][78] Upon Fred Trump’s death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[78][80][81]

    Trump said that he began his career with "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father, but did not acknowledge his father's role in backing a $70 million loan during the construction of the Grand Hyatt hotel at the same time.[78][82] He appeared on the initial Forbes 400 list of richest Americans in 1982 with an estimated $200 million fortune shared with his father.[83] An ex-Forbes reporter said in 2018 that Trump had inflated his actual wealth in order to be included on the list.


    From wikipedia

    How are you going to come back with wikipedia?  Not saying info is wrong, but you gotta get better than wikipedia

    Why should I? If the info isn't wrong, why should I spend more time on it? What an absurd suggestion. I"m not writing a thesis here or anything.  I have better things to do, when it really isn't in dispute that Trump's family was rich and he benefited from it. 
    Post edited by oftenreading on
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    This is definitely bullshit. I was at the show and they certainly didn’t lose the crowd. Obviously OP not only wasn’t at the show but also doesn’t understand the Italian crowd who fundamentally would be against someone like Donny. 
  • Tristelune
    Tristelune Posts: 318
    edited June 2018
    If you think Trump’s presidency is just another day at the office, won’t have heavy consequences in the future and doesn’t even deserve a couple of rants during a show, I feel for you, really.
    Post edited by Tristelune on
  • docsredarmy99
    docsredarmy99 Posts: 34
    Ninetytworules said:
    This is definitely bullshit. I was at the show and they certainly didn’t lose the crowd. Obviously OP not only wasn’t at the show but also doesn’t understand the Italian crowd who fundamentally would be against someone like Donny. 
    I was at the show & the place went flat in my opinion only for them to take a break for 5mins and then come out and bring the crowd back. That's just my opinion though.

    Oh and being a veteran of Italian shows I think I'm in a good position to have an opinion on the crowd. An opinion that obviously varys from yours but let's try and be adult about it, yeah?
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