March For Our Lives - Parkland Students Demanding Action

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    unsung said:
    Imagine that.  I wonder why.
    Why should a kid be threatened by the gun nuts you guys admire exactly? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    Imagine that.  I wonder why.
    Why should a kid be threatened by the gun nuts you guys admire exactly? 
    They’re not gun nuts. They’re “responsible” gun owners trying to make those with opposing views bend to their will by threats of violence and physical harm. Terrorists if you will.
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  • mcgruff10
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    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
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  • brianwp
    brianwp Posts: 139

    They DO NOT want to take guns from responsible citizens. I know some people here desperately need an excuse to hate these kids but stop with the lies.

    My daughter was at the school that day and I started this discussion as a way to help support some very brave kids that experienced more trauma than most of us will ever know. 

    If you don’t want to support them and don’t care who can get their hands on a gun, that’s fine, but take your BS propaganda somewhere else. 

  • mcgruff10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
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  • mcgruff10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
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  • brianwp
    brianwp Posts: 139
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
    Not anti-gun. Do some research. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    brianwp said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
    Not anti-gun. Do some research. 
    Who’s not anti gun?
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  • brianwp
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    David. He supports 2A and has guns in his house. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns. Let’s say your sister is pro gun control and her ex-husband has threatened her life and he’s a known “responsible” gun owner. Are you going to have a problem with a cop sitting outside of her house? Or let’s say she performs abortions and is for greater restrictions on gun ownership and has her life threatened. Are you going to have a problem with her hiring armed security, particularly if she’s speaking or participating in a public event? I swear, sometimes I think some people will only change their views is if it happens to them. And I truly hope it never does.
     
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And here’s a link to the Parkland students’ list of changes. I suggest you read it so that maybe you’ll stop saying they want to ban guns. I’m not hopeful though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-students-manifesto-americas-gun-laws
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  • mcgruff10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns. Let’s say your sister is pro gun control and her ex-husband has threatened her life and he’s a known “responsible” gun owner. Are you going to have a problem with a cop sitting outside of her house? Or let’s say she performs abortions and is for greater restrictions on gun ownership and has her life threatened. Are you going to have a problem with her hiring armed security, particularly if she’s speaking or participating in a public event? I swear, sometimes I think some people will only change their views is if it happens to them. And I truly hope it never does.
     
    Stop with the responsible bs, obviously they aren’t. And apples to oranges, my sister isn’t in the National spot light trying to make a change. 

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns but he is trying to outlaw some, yeah that’s anti gun. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns. Let’s say your sister is pro gun control and her ex-husband has threatened her life and he’s a known “responsible” gun owner. Are you going to have a problem with a cop sitting outside of her house? Or let’s say she performs abortions and is for greater restrictions on gun ownership and has her life threatened. Are you going to have a problem with her hiring armed security, particularly if she’s speaking or participating in a public event? I swear, sometimes I think some people will only change their views is if it happens to them. And I truly hope it never does.
     
    Stop with the responsible bs, obviously they aren’t. And apples to oranges, my sister isn’t in the National spot light trying to make a change. 

    I think it might have been you who said that every legal gun sale is to a “responsible” gun buyer. I argue that they’re “responsible” until they’re not. Nice deflection by the way. Were those abortion doctors in the national spotlight before they were gunned down, one standing at his kitchen window, the other as he ushered at his church? 
     
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  • josevolution
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    Damn the similarities between Baffoon supporters and gun nuts is undeniable uninformed comes to mind ! 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    edited June 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    To me it is like carrying around a “meat is murder” sign while eating a cheeseburger. 
    Because that happens all the time. Whataboutism does though.
    You don’t find it hypocritical to be anti gun but at the same time being protected by the same thing you are protesting?  Come on bud. 

    Not when your life has been threatened by “responsible” gun owners. C’mon bud, you make light of a kid who has personally survived gun violence having his life threatened because he’d like to see gun control reform and equate that to some kind of hypocrisy or double standard? I hope you never have your school shot up and have to witness and experience what those parkland kids have. Or the Columbine. Or Sandy Hook. Or Virginia Tech. But keep making light of it.
    I m not making light of anything You are going way to extreme bud. However I do find it hypocritical that this kid is way anti gun but is being protecting by the thing he swears to outlaw. 
    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns. Let’s say your sister is pro gun control and her ex-husband has threatened her life and he’s a known “responsible” gun owner. Are you going to have a problem with a cop sitting outside of her house? Or let’s say she performs abortions and is for greater restrictions on gun ownership and has her life threatened. Are you going to have a problem with her hiring armed security, particularly if she’s speaking or participating in a public event? I swear, sometimes I think some people will only change their views is if it happens to them. And I truly hope it never does.
     
    Stop with the responsible bs, obviously they aren’t. And apples to oranges, my sister isn’t in the National spot light trying to make a change. 

    I think it might have been you who said that every legal gun sale is to a “responsible” gun buyer. I argue that they’re “responsible” until they’re not. Nice deflection by the way. Were those abortion doctors in the national spotlight before they were gunned down, one standing at his kitchen window, the other as he ushered at his church? 
     
    Everyone Is responsible until they are not. It s a pretty dumb saying.

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    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns but he is trying to outlaw some, yeah that’s anti gun. 

    So he deserves death threats and is a hypocrite for having armed security?
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    edited June 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    He’s not trying to outlaw all guns but he is trying to outlaw some, yeah that’s anti gun. 

    So he deserves death threats and is a hypocrite for having armed security?
    Deserves death threats: no. 
    Hypocritcal: 100%

    have ninjas surround you to prove a point, not gun wielding security guards. Because why is his life more importNt than my families? The answer is no ones life is more important than anyone else’s. 
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