Here's the thing: if this administration gets away with this... what's next?
They began by plucking good Americans and deporting them- even after they had served in the military. They have escalated their tactics and now are terrorizing families and children at the border. They use language designed to de-humanize (infestation). They use rhetoric to whip bucktoothed yokels into an enthusiastic frenzy for the endeavours (some are even wanting a civil war according to someone on here). And they don't seem to be slowing down.
These are all calculated measures to 'cleanse' the US of people this administration views as undesirable.
For anyone so indignant over the comparisons made to Nazi Germany... stop being so gawddamn obtuse. Of course we haven't reached the pinnacle yet or are even near it, but is that the only time a comparison can be made- upon review where (unable to have understood the movement at an earlier stage) we see an efficient infrastructure that supported the cleansing? Are you incapable of understanding the obvious parallels at each era's outset which are eerily similar?
Stop the downward spiral in the intial stages- don't clean up the mess. Don't underestimate the severity of the situation.
Let me take your 5 year old child by force and throw them in a cage without you knowing where they are, then talk to me about abuse, tough guy
People like you are giving America a bad name, you should be ashamed
You have zero empathy, for anyone, and its disgusting
Not true. I have empathy for the taxpayers that have to fund this mess.
HA How about the 20 billion dollars your president wants us to pay for an idiotic wall....after promising he would convince Mexico to foot the bill for 2 years? How about the 2 trillion dollars their tax plan adds to our deficit?
Is this guy for real?
You are a hypocritical mess...
I actually kinda think that spending the money on the wall would be cheaper in the long run than prosecuting thousands upon thousands of people and putting the kids up to stay in warehouses every year.
Really? You think this zero tolerance policy is going to continue on a yearly basis?
I have no idea. Let’s say they remove the zero tolerance- they still have war torn countries and cartels forcing people out of their countries for safety and ending up here. Look at Europe, most of those countries bordering the type of countries have walls/fences/etc. and prosecute & throw people out who try to come in. But it can’t be cheap.
Ma'am, how much do you think we spend on prosecuting these folks currently?
Perhaps we could do a better job of not turning down so many folks at the legal ports of entry? A lot of people who are currently being prosecuted and have had their kids sent to these horrible wallmart cages tried to do it the right way but were not able to get in. If you travelled halfway across the world out of a war torn country only to be told the legal port is full, what would you do? Turn around and go traverse back to your war torn country or do what these folks did?
I don’t know, bust out your calculator and let me know. There’s no cages by the way, I haven’t read any info saying that kids are in cages lol. And maybe you’re misssing the point but the reason they’re being prosecuted is to send a message that they can’t just turn around and try it illegally, it’s supposed to deter emigration unless it’s legal and with a visa. Is it working? Obviously not. I’m just saying that the whole shit is assbackwards and can’t be cheap the way it is now. We’ll have hundreds of these Walmart asylums before you know it and then we’re dealing with a humanitarian disaster. The cartels know what they’re doing, they’re not trying to save people, they’re taking their money and making our government deal with them.
Really? If you haven't read any info saying that, it's clear you haven't sought one fucking article about this. I screen grabbed what showed up when I simply searched "cages" on Google just now. No mention of Trump, or immigration or anything - and yet, would you look at those results! What other obvious and immediately provable realities would you like to ignore?
Well it’s of course embellished. It’s true there’s chain link wire fences inside these warehouses, but in no way are they being held in cages. It’s just a word the media uses to create hysteria- both sides do it. I knew that it wouldn’t be true, there’s just no way.
"It wouldn't be true, there's just no way". Except it is, unless you know of a better word to describe locked chain link enclosures.
Locked chain link enclosures that are 30’x30’ and cages sound a little different to me. Do you agree?
I would agree with that. Is it the fact it’s chain link that bothers people? Should they put up drywall aroundo it? Chain link is common when making holding facilities. I think calling it a cage is intentional to dehumanize the process. But this has always been done, holding facilities out of chain link is not new. The only thing new is the separation. But remember, there are more unaccompanied minors that show up than ones being separated, and no one ever had a problem holding them in “cages” before.
"Dehumanize the process"?? Really, that's what you're concerned about?
The process is already inhumane. It's the people that are being dehumanized by these actions, and by dismissal of what this is.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Where are all the budget conscious and CBA and ROI repubes? Further, what skill sets do these caregivers have and have they had CORI and SORI checks completed?
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
Goebbels would be proud. From the official White House email.
The President's call for action: #ChangeTheLaws
President Trump addressed the immigration crisis on America's southern border during a speech before the National Federation of Independent Businesses yesterday. "It's been going on for many, many decades and many years. And it has its ups and its downs," the President said. "And all we need is good legislation, and we can have it taken care of."
Yup, absolve yourself of responsibility and put the burden on someone else to clean up your self inflicted mess. Nice leadership. Despotic in a way.
A little late to the party on this one. The photos have been discussed several times. I think this same article might have been posted already. It's irrelevant to the actual discussion going on about the current issues.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
I think Shumer said he expects amendments around the wall and other non-starters to pollute the bill. The reality is that there is nothing in the existing law or the Flores consent order that mandates or requires the separation of children from parents. The way the administration has chosen to execute the law has created the situation.
Stop separating kids that’s all Protesters shout 'shame' at Kirstjen Nielsen as she dines at Mexican restaurant - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A2UVXXXYYRMa4Fs5fyR5hWA She can enjoy her dinner and Mexican too !
She really went to a fucking Mexican restaurant???
this is how fucking tone deaf the right can be.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
Stop separating kids that’s all Protesters shout 'shame' at Kirstjen Nielsen as she dines at Mexican restaurant - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A2UVXXXYYRMa4Fs5fyR5hWA She can enjoy her dinner and Mexican too !
She really went to a fucking Mexican restaurant???
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
Sinclair is a bigger issue than Fox...much. Fox is heroin for conspiracy theorists, which there are clearly a ton of.
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
controlling the media isn't just about the media's content. it's also discrediting them to the point their content no longer matters.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
What are you talking about?? Schumer is correct. This isn’t a law. This doesn’t need a congressional fix. Trump can put an end to his own policy of separating children from their parents by simply telling his justice department to stop enforcing his own policy.
And Trump doesn’t control the media? Hahaha...that is ducking hilarious. He has one network parroting his talking points 24 hours a day. He fucking live tweets it.
This is controlling the media? One news outlet? Really?
Dude. This is America. You act as if the president controlling one news network is a minor offense. It is an affront to our democracy. Literally. It’s state controlled media. And it’s not really one, but it’s clearly the major one. Then you throw in Breitbart, that One America channel, and possibly worse of all, Sinclair Broadcasting which controls hundreds of local channels—it’s fucking scary when you think about how fast this is happening. Then, of course, you have the president on a daily/hourly basis discrediting literally EVERY OTHER NEWS OUTLET who reports on him critically and....yeah, man—this is how it starts. It’s by the book. They’re not even hiding it. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you. A third of this country isn’t thinking for themselves. I keep saying this not to be demeaning or anything but, really: OPEN YOUR EYES. This is happening right now and people just don’t want to acknowledge it or are just so happy with the economy (that they’ve been conditioned by Trump and his media outlets to believe got better on 1/20/17 instead of 8 years ago) that they turn the other cheek.
This is how it starts. It’s happening. Wake up.
I'll be labeled as naive on this as I see Trump preaching to the choir. I don't think that he controls any of it, that's just his base and it's like brand loyalty. Like MSNBC just goes the complete opposite direction of the GOP. If GOP says white then MSNBC says black...
I have a cousin that is a very stark conservative and he spews the same garbage you are right now. He thinks that a war is coming and that a new movement is coming. He believes that we are going to have a civil war and he wants that...
I am woke, I am paying attention. I Just don't see the sky as falling. I see people pointing out so far off extreme talking points that it sounds absurd.
Do we have some work to do to make us better? Yes.
Back to the news outlets. When has Fox ever backed a Democrat? I don't recall.
When has the other news outlets endorsed a republican? I don't recall.
The news thing has been going on for as long as I can remember. I view the news and politics now as trying to split us up and make us draw lines in the sand, choose a side, but that is just me I guess. I'm naive and need to open my eyes...
He wants to kill his neighbours? He wants a civil war?
Wtf is wrong with America? People have lost their f**king minds.
I change my mind on gun control... stock up if there are f**wads eager for a civil war. Geezuz.
My cousin is an idiot though. Smartest dumb person I know. Breitbart, Fox, all his favorites. He leans alt right almost... It's sad.
I know there are others like him but they are few and far between but I'm sure a bunch on here will say something like there are 61million or something rhetorical like that...
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
controlling the media isn't just about the media's content. it's also discrediting them to the point their content no longer matters.
And he discredits them every time he opens his mouth or tweets. How are people this blind to what is happening? I don't get it. This isn't normal. None of this is normal.
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
controlling the media isn't just about the media's content. it's also discrediting them to the point their content no longer matters.
And he discredits them every time he opens his mouth or tweets. How are people this blind to what is happening? I don't get it. This isn't normal. None of this is normal.
No one is saying it is normal but it isn't Berlin 1938 either.
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
controlling the media isn't just about the media's content. it's also discrediting them to the point their content no longer matters.
And he discredits them every time he opens his mouth or tweets. How are people this blind to what is happening? I don't get it. This isn't normal. None of this is normal.
No one is saying it is normal but it isn't Berlin 1938 either.
I think we really need to move beyond the Nazi Germany part of this. There is clearly a disagreement about the context of that being used as a comparison with some, even the early stages. Does it matter that much if we can agree what is happening is wrong and needs to be corrected? I find a lot of what Trump and his admin do to lean heavily towards fascism and dictatorship ruling, no comparison needed. All you need to do is look at what he has done or does to see the indicators. He admires people like Un and Jinping because of their absolute rule and lifetime hold on power. Most other countries and leaders are concerned about the way China is shifting under Jinping, but Trump makes sure to cozy up to people he knows will be in power for a long time and that he could partner with for his own personal wealth and gain. If a leader is not absolute, he dismisses them because they can't guarantee him anything beyond when they are the elected leader of their country. Nothing he is doing is for the "American people", it's for the Trump family legacy.
Didnt happen overnight. Started in 1923. Small, subtle, incremental steps, baby steps if you will. I’m sorry you can’t see that nor know the history and the underpinnings. But hey Team Trump Treason is said to own one book, Mein Kampf so there is that.
Hitler went on for over 20 years...
At best Trump will be in power for 8.
So we just let it go on for 8 years? Then the next Trumpian asshat that takes office continues? How about we learn from history and stop it now while we have a shot instead of perpetuating it because “at best it’s only 8 years.”
Forgive me if I don't think we are in dark times or the dawn of a new Hitler is upon us.
I do remember the right claiming that Obama was doing the same thing, turning America into Nazi Germany. He was going to disarm us, make friends with our enemies, so on and so on.
The way of thinking now has moved from one extreme to the other. Every angle and counter argument is extreme now.
There is no way, no way we go down that dark path. That list posted above was being thrown around with Obama too...
If that list was indeed thrown around with Obama, would you not at least agree it was with far less reason? When was Obama ever seen to display "rampant sexism", "disdain for human rights", or entwining church and state? And hasn't Trump displayed all of these, and more on the list?
I don’t see Trump controlling the media or him bringing religion and govt together.
On another note Schumer shot down legislation to keep the immigrant families together saying that Trump could end this with his own and doesn’t need to be legislative.
Ive got problems with this. It’s more of govt banging their heads against the wall and pointing more fingers. No one is doing anything...
Cuomo is suing the Trump admin though for human rights so at least someone is doing it.
Thoughts?
I agree. I’ve agreed with most your points on this thread. How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
controlling the media isn't just about the media's content. it's also discrediting them to the point their content no longer matters.
And he discredits them every time he opens his mouth or tweets. How are people this blind to what is happening? I don't get it. This isn't normal. None of this is normal.
No one is saying he doesn't do that. This is about the comparisons being made. But that doesn't compare to the level of media control of other dictators he is being compared to. That is my point. He is being compared to dictators because of his control over media, but those others murdered people for saying anything negative and had full control over what was said. He just tweets "fake news," that hardly makes him Hitler.
Michigan? Any chance it's Grand Rapids, home of Betsy DeVoss?
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Locked chain link enclosures that are 30’x30’ and cages sound a little different to me. Do you agree?
I would agree with that. Is it the fact it’s chain link that bothers people? Should they put up drywall aroundo it? Chain link is common when making holding facilities. I think calling it a cage is intentional to dehumanize the process. But this has always been done, holding facilities out of chain link is not new. The only thing new is the separation. But remember, there are more unaccompanied minors that show up than ones being separated, and no one ever had a problem holding them in “cages” before.
"Dehumanize the process"?? Really, that's what you're concerned about?
The process is already inhumane. It's the people that are being dehumanized by these actions, and by dismissal of what this is.
No, that was just my answer to a previous post. I think I've only seen 1 person on here say they are okay with the separation process. But making false comparisons doesn't help either. How much time has been spent on discussing the Hit;er/Trump relationship instead of immigration? Calling a 30x30 femce a cage is part of that. No one had issues with it and called it a cage until Trump did it.
Locked chain link enclosures that are 30’x30’ and cages sound a little different to me. Do you agree?
I would agree with that. Is it the fact it’s chain link that bothers people? Should they put up drywall aroundo it? Chain link is common when making holding facilities. I think calling it a cage is intentional to dehumanize the process. But this has always been done, holding facilities out of chain link is not new. The only thing new is the separation. But remember, there are more unaccompanied minors that show up than ones being separated, and no one ever had a problem holding them in “cages” before.
"Dehumanize the process"?? Really, that's what you're concerned about?
The process is already inhumane. It's the people that are being dehumanized by these actions, and by dismissal of what this is.
No, that was just my answer to a previous post. I think I've only seen 1 person on here say they are okay with the separation process. But making false comparisons doesn't help either. How much time has been spent on discussing the Hit;er/Trump relationship instead of immigration? Calling a 30x30 femce a cage is part of that. No one had issues with it and called it a cage until Trump did it.
That's not true either. That was an issue under Obama when they were housing the unaccompanied minors in them. The courts made them stop doing that. Now, I haven't heard any complaints for continued use with adults...
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They began by plucking good Americans and deporting them- even after they had served in the military. They have escalated their tactics and now are terrorizing families and children at the border. They use language designed to de-humanize (infestation). They use rhetoric to whip bucktoothed yokels into an enthusiastic frenzy for the endeavours (some are even wanting a civil war according to someone on here). And they don't seem to be slowing down.
These are all calculated measures to 'cleanse' the US of people this administration views as undesirable.
For anyone so indignant over the comparisons made to Nazi Germany... stop being so gawddamn obtuse. Of course we haven't reached the pinnacle yet or are even near it, but is that the only time a comparison can be made- upon review where (unable to have understood the movement at an earlier stage) we see an efficient infrastructure that supported the cleansing? Are you incapable of understanding the obvious parallels at each era's outset which are eerily similar?
Stop the downward spiral in the intial stages- don't clean up the mess. Don't underestimate the severity of the situation.
"Dehumanize the process"?? Really, that's what you're concerned about?
The process is already inhumane. It's the people that are being dehumanized by these actions, and by dismissal of what this is.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5
How does 1 right-leaning news channel equate to controlling the media? Essentially every other news media is anti-Trump. About as far from controlling the media as you can get.
The President's call for action: #ChangeTheLaws
President Trump addressed the immigration crisis on America's southern border during a speech before the National Federation of Independent Businesses yesterday. "It's been going on for many, many decades and many years. And it has its ups and its downs," the President said. "And all we need is good legislation, and we can have it taken care of."
Yup, absolve yourself of responsibility and put the burden on someone else to clean up your self inflicted mess. Nice leadership. Despotic in a way.
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Trump supporters are so gullible.
why you hiding behind a screen, bro? worried about the elimination of the white race?
And he discredits them every time he opens his mouth or tweets. How are people this blind to what is happening? I don't get it. This isn't normal. None of this is normal.
Michigan receiving detained immigrant children as young as 3 months old
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I think I've only seen 1 person on here say they are okay with the separation process.
But making false comparisons doesn't help either. How much time has been spent on discussing the Hit;er/Trump relationship instead of immigration? Calling a 30x30 femce a cage is part of that.
No one had issues with it and called it a cage until Trump did it.
people should be mad, I take it you're fine with what's going on in your home state?
good stuff... bravo.... that will show those dirty fucking immigrants... MAGA!
seriously, how disgusting does this administration have to get?
and that prick Corey Lewandowski deserves a pop in the mouth, loser