14 years and counting...

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well Trump just signed an order disallowing the separation of families.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-reversal-trump-signs-order-stopping-family-separation/ar-AAyUE7S?ocid=spartanntp

Now begins the process of getting these 2,500 kids back to their families, and in my opinion, there is no chance in hell that every one of those kids is going to get where they need to be.

what a fucking idiot fraud. no order was needed for the original policy, but obviously he's trying to put blame on the democrats STILL for this by using an order to reverse his position. 

evil piece of shit. 

cincybearcat

Bentleyspop said:

American Airlines doing the right thing.....

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1009497182263791619?s=19

Hmmm denying a service to someone cause you disagree....sounds like the cake thing.

my2hands

his plan, cooked up by Stephen "Nazi" Miller and Jeff "KKK" Sessions, failed miserably and he knows it.......

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well Trump just signed an order disallowing the separation of families.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-reversal-trump-signs-order-stopping-family-separation/ar-AAyUE7S?ocid=spartanntp

Now begins the process of getting these 2,500 kids back to their families, and in my opinion, there is no chance in hell that every one of those kids is going to get where they need to be.

what a fucking idiot fraud. no order was needed for the original policy, but obviously he's trying to put blame on the democrats STILL for this by using an order to reverse his position. 

evil piece of shit. 

Yep, and some people will still be fooled by it and think that Trump just axed a bad law that was created by the Democrats.

HughFreakingDillon

cincybearcat said:

Bentleyspop said:

American Airlines doing the right thing.....

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1009497182263791619?s=19

Hmmm denying a service to someone cause you disagree....sounds like the cake thing.

one is discrimination. the other is not. 

oftenreading

cincybearcat said:

Bentleyspop said:

American Airlines doing the right thing.....

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1009497182263791619?s=19

Hmmm denying a service to someone cause you disagree....sounds like the cake thing.

You’re not serious, I hope. 

oftenreading

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

he needs to be impeached or resign along with his whole administration

This is something I hear a lot of people say on a nearly daily basis, but isn't there an argument to be made that Trump might be MORE dangerous if he was forced out of office? He doesn't have "supporters." He has FANS. And they are hardcore fucking fans. The type that might revolt if he was impeached and voted out of office.

What I'm about to type would sound ridiculous if it wasn't 2018 in America.....

A Trump impeachment could lead to a sort of Civil War. If voted out of office, he certainly wouldn't just throw his hands up and say "oh well." He'd rally his "troops" into a frenzy that could lead to some horrible displays on their part. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised (again, this would sound crazy if I wasn't talking about Trump and his fans) if Trump could rally some of his most supportive states to succeed from the nation. "The Trump States of America."

I know...everything I just typed is either completely insane, completely possible, or both.

I really don't think his idiot fans are bright enough to start a revolution in any case, but even if they are, no, I don't think it's right to keep an evil, destructive, criminal leader in office just because his moronic supporters might be mad about it. Is such a revolt in the realm of possibilities? I suppose, technically. Should that be a deterrent to doing what's right? No. Even if that did happen, that would just be something America and the world would also have to deal with. If he actually has supporters who are that fucking crazy and rabid and want America to be like their vision that badly, then they probably need to be fought in any case, and sooner is usually better than later I figure. And I think these yahoos would end up being pretty damn easy to beat until the entire US military decided to get involved in a coup against America's government and laws, and I don't really see them doing that in the name of Trump. 

I don’t think intelligence has ever been a requirement to start an armed conflict; in fact, generally the reverse. 

mcgruff10

Executive order signed. Now I hope the left and the right can come together and fix the problem. 

PJ_Soul

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

he needs to be impeached or resign along with his whole administration

This is something I hear a lot of people say on a nearly daily basis, but isn't there an argument to be made that Trump might be MORE dangerous if he was forced out of office? He doesn't have "supporters." He has FANS. And they are hardcore fucking fans. The type that might revolt if he was impeached and voted out of office.

What I'm about to type would sound ridiculous if it wasn't 2018 in America.....

A Trump impeachment could lead to a sort of Civil War. If voted out of office, he certainly wouldn't just throw his hands up and say "oh well." He'd rally his "troops" into a frenzy that could lead to some horrible displays on their part. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised (again, this would sound crazy if I wasn't talking about Trump and his fans) if Trump could rally some of his most supportive states to succeed from the nation. "The Trump States of America."

I know...everything I just typed is either completely insane, completely possible, or both.

I really don't think his idiot fans are bright enough to start a revolution in any case, but even if they are, no, I don't think it's right to keep an evil, destructive, criminal leader in office just because his moronic supporters might be mad about it. Is such a revolt in the realm of possibilities? I suppose, technically. Should that be a deterrent to doing what's right? No. Even if that did happen, that would just be something America and the world would also have to deal with. If he actually has supporters who are that fucking crazy and rabid and want America to be like their vision that badly, then they probably need to be fought in any case, and sooner is usually better than later I figure. And I think these yahoos would end up being pretty damn easy to beat until the entire US military decided to get involved in a coup against America's government and laws, and I don't really see them doing that in the name of Trump. 

I guess I just expect the worst with some of these people.

So do I... I just have far more confidence in their ineptitudes than I do their abilities, lol.

unsung

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

His predecessors did the same thing.  Where was the outrage then?

It's irrelevant what anyone else did in the past.  Do you think it's right to separate the families or not?  That's what it comes down to.

It isn't irrelevant at all.  It is US policy.  And the outrage has nothing to do with children, just more anti-Trump.  Everyone gets it but all of you.

my2hands

unsung said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

His predecessors did the same thing.  Where was the outrage then?

It's irrelevant what anyone else did in the past.  Do you think it's right to separate the families or not?  That's what it comes down to.

It isn't irrelevant at all.  It is US policy.  And the outrage has nothing to do with children, just more anti-Trump.  Everyone gets it but all of you.

total horseshit

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

His predecessors did the same thing.  Where was the outrage then?

It's irrelevant what anyone else did in the past.  Do you think it's right to separate the families or not?  That's what it comes down to.

It isn't irrelevant at all.  It is US policy.  And the outrage has nothing to do with children, just more anti-Trump.  Everyone gets it but all of you.

did obama separate children from their families? no
did he detain some? yes
why?
because they came over unaccompanied by adults (or the parents/caregivers were deemed unfit), so they were detained until they could be safely transported back. 

how the fuck is that the same as what trump is doing?

detaining illegal crosses IS US policy. but separating children from their parents is a UNIQUELY trump policy. seems like you're the one who isn't getting it. 

PJ_Soul

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

he needs to be impeached or resign along with his whole administration

This is something I hear a lot of people say on a nearly daily basis, but isn't there an argument to be made that Trump might be MORE dangerous if he was forced out of office? He doesn't have "supporters." He has FANS. And they are hardcore fucking fans. The type that might revolt if he was impeached and voted out of office.

What I'm about to type would sound ridiculous if it wasn't 2018 in America.....

A Trump impeachment could lead to a sort of Civil War. If voted out of office, he certainly wouldn't just throw his hands up and say "oh well." He'd rally his "troops" into a frenzy that could lead to some horrible displays on their part. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised (again, this would sound crazy if I wasn't talking about Trump and his fans) if Trump could rally some of his most supportive states to succeed from the nation. "The Trump States of America."

I know...everything I just typed is either completely insane, completely possible, or both.

I really don't think his idiot fans are bright enough to start a revolution in any case, but even if they are, no, I don't think it's right to keep an evil, destructive, criminal leader in office just because his moronic supporters might be mad about it. Is such a revolt in the realm of possibilities? I suppose, technically. Should that be a deterrent to doing what's right? No. Even if that did happen, that would just be something America and the world would also have to deal with. If he actually has supporters who are that fucking crazy and rabid and want America to be like their vision that badly, then they probably need to be fought in any case, and sooner is usually better than later I figure. And I think these yahoos would end up being pretty damn easy to beat until the entire US military decided to get involved in a coup against America's government and laws, and I don't really see them doing that in the name of Trump. 

I don’t think intelligence has ever been a requirement to start an armed conflict; in fact, generally the reverse. 

I disagree. I have never heard of any political revolution that was lead by morons actually, let alone ones that were successful. Why do you think that such events are generally lead by idiots?

josevolution

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well Trump just signed an order disallowing the separation of families.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-reversal-trump-signs-order-stopping-family-separation/ar-AAyUE7S?ocid=spartanntp

Now begins the process of getting these 2,500 kids back to their families, and in my opinion, there is no chance in hell that every one of those kids is going to get where they need to be.

Wait for it it's coming i bet any amount that he issues statement saying , he swooped in to save the day to save the kids from this horrible policy that the democrats implemented ! 

Ledbetterman10

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

he needs to be impeached or resign along with his whole administration

This is something I hear a lot of people say on a nearly daily basis, but isn't there an argument to be made that Trump might be MORE dangerous if he was forced out of office? He doesn't have "supporters." He has FANS. And they are hardcore fucking fans. The type that might revolt if he was impeached and voted out of office.

What I'm about to type would sound ridiculous if it wasn't 2018 in America.....

A Trump impeachment could lead to a sort of Civil War. If voted out of office, he certainly wouldn't just throw his hands up and say "oh well." He'd rally his "troops" into a frenzy that could lead to some horrible displays on their part. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised (again, this would sound crazy if I wasn't talking about Trump and his fans) if Trump could rally some of his most supportive states to succeed from the nation. "The Trump States of America."

I know...everything I just typed is either completely insane, completely possible, or both.

I really don't think his idiot fans are bright enough to start a revolution in any case, but even if they are, no, I don't think it's right to keep an evil, destructive, criminal leader in office just because his moronic supporters might be mad about it. Is such a revolt in the realm of possibilities? I suppose, technically. Should that be a deterrent to doing what's right? No. Even if that did happen, that would just be something America and the world would also have to deal with. If he actually has supporters who are that fucking crazy and rabid and want America to be like their vision that badly, then they probably need to be fought in any case, and sooner is usually better than later I figure. And I think these yahoos would end up being pretty damn easy to beat until the entire US military decided to get involved in a coup against America's government and laws, and I don't really see them doing that in the name of Trump. 

I don’t think intelligence has ever been a requirement to start an armed conflict; in fact, generally the reverse. 

I disagree. I have never heard of any political revolution that was lead by morons actually, let alone ones that were successful. Why do you think that such events are generally lead by idiots?

You're forgetting about one political revolution that was successfully lead by morons: THE ELECTION OF DONALD TRUMP! Not all revolutions have to be violent.

As for my hypothetical revolt by Trump fans over an impeachment, it was a bit of hyperbole on my part to suggest a Civil War. But if nothing else, it would lead to more divisiveness in this country than we already have.

Ledbetterman10

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well Trump just signed an order disallowing the separation of families.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-reversal-trump-signs-order-stopping-family-separation/ar-AAyUE7S?ocid=spartanntp

Now begins the process of getting these 2,500 kids back to their families, and in my opinion, there is no chance in hell that every one of those kids is going to get where they need to be.

Wait for it it's coming i bet any amount that he issues statement saying , he swooped in to save the day to save the kids from this horrible policy that the democrats implemented ! 

Yeah it's pretty obvious that will be the case...if he hasn't said it already.

Bentleyspop

cincybearcat said:

Bentleyspop said:

American Airlines doing the right thing.....

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1009497182263791619?s=19

Hmmm denying a service to someone cause you disagree....sounds like the cake thing.

And United too...

https://twitter.com/united/status/1009490504688525312?s=19

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well Trump just signed an order disallowing the separation of families.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-reversal-trump-signs-order-stopping-family-separation/ar-AAyUE7S?ocid=spartanntp

Now begins the process of getting these 2,500 kids back to their families, and in my opinion, there is no chance in hell that every one of those kids is going to get where they need to be.

what a fucking idiot fraud. no order was needed for the original policy, but obviously he's trying to put blame on the democrats STILL for this by using an order to reverse his position. 

evil piece of shit. 

Yup, a HUGE piece of shit. Now to see how in the fuck they're going to manage reunited the thousands of kids and parents they already separated since April - I agree with Ledbetterman10; I can't see that going well at all.... I will also be keeping my eye on these tent cities and shit, where I'm going to guess we'll now see families suffering in rather than just children - better but still awful. I think the humanitarian crisis is far from over folks.

Halifax2TheMax

A whole lot of brown noses in that oval orifice.

“If you’re strong, then you don’t have any heart”: Read the full transcript of Trump’s immigration meeting - Vox https://apple.news/AI0UdKqtaTLCILmmMxtXpOg

 Listen to that gurgle. Holy Christ.

PJ_Soul

Nice news brief by The Onion, lol.

Americans Finally Recognize Own Country Again After President Does Half-Assed Job Walking Back Humanitarian Crimes

9 minutes ago

SEE MORE: Donald Trump

WASHINGTON—Claiming that the newly signed executive order ending the separation of immigrant families at the border was a return to the United States’ most foundational principles, Americans reportedly finally recognized their own country again Wednesday after witnessing the president do a half-assed job walking back humanitarian crimes. “Now that Trump has agreed to slightly ratchet down these cruel and inhumane policies of his own making, we are once again the nation I know and love,” said Leanne Silvers, 29, echoing the sentiments of 320 million citizens who expressed their relief that the government had at long last renewed its commitment to diluting the most explicit human rights violations without fundamentally changing anything. “Now that this dark chapter in our history is over, we can once again serve as a city on a hill, a living symbol to all of slapping a Band-Aid on a horrific crisis and declaring it fixed forever. This is who we are. God bless America.” At press time, the nation’s citizenry had reportedly reaffirmed its sacred right to completely ignore human rights abuses as soon as they were off the front page.

https://www.theonion.com/americans-finally-recognize-own-country-again-after-pre-1826996830?utm_source=TheOnion_Daily_RSS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_term=