14 years and counting...

The Juggler said:

unsung said:

The Juggler said:

unsung said:

my2hands said:

unsung said:

Nobody is being abused.

Let me take your 5 year old child by force and throw them in a cage without you knowing where they are, then talk to me about abuse, tough guy

People like you are giving America a bad name, you should be ashamed

You have zero empathy, for anyone, and its disgusting 

Not true.  I have empathy for the taxpayers that have to fund this mess.

HA
How about the 20 billion dollars your president wants us to pay for an idiotic wall....after promising he would convince Mexico to foot the bill for 2 years? How about the 2 trillion dollars their tax plan adds to our deficit?

Is this guy for real?

You are a hypocritical mess...

I much prefer the prison sentences.  Cool story though.

Seriously, Fraud Libertarian, why do you suddenly care about the taxpayers footing the bill when it comes to this but turn a blind eye to two trillion dollars for the tax bill and 20 billion dollars for the wall?

It's cool, I'll repeat myself.  I prefer to put the business owners in jail.  Thanks.

mcgruff10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/1008841862248062977

I just read this story and I want to ask a question.

They paid $7000 to be smuggled to the US.

Why can't someone just buy a round trip plane ticket and say they are visiting and just not leave?  It should cost about a quarter of the $2000 for the plane tickets?  

That's actually a pretty damn good point.  Maybe it is difficult to get a passport in these countries?  

It's all about the Visas no visa no entry most of these countries don't give them out to Pedro the grape picker but if your a person with lot's of money they get them no problem you know why ? because their government know they will be back they are not coming here to stay they are well off they don't need our stinking $$$$ but the peasents do !

unsung said:

So I'll ask again because of #4.

These are people coming to harvest?  Geez, why didn't you say so.

we all know it's not just fruit picking. it's all low wage slave labour. why do you keep harping on obvious and useless points?

josevolution said:

mcgruff10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

They made the choice to come here illegally so don't whine that when they do so they have to deal with the consequences. 

seeking asylum is not illegal. crossing the border between ports is. separating family members is not "the consequences" as laid out in any law. it is the policy of this piece of shit admin to try to scare illegals from coming, and to strong arm congress into giving him funding for his racist wall. 

LOL, how can a device be racist? Geez I have heard it all.

Put business owners that hire them in prison.  Case closed.  Problem solved.

And how Is illegal racist?  Illegal isn’t a race. 

who said using the term illegal is racist?

There is/was a movement to call illegals "undocumented" instead and wanted to say the term "illegals" was racist.  It was a thing and I believe it still is.

Correct.
Hugh, I blame businesses the most because they hire illegal immigrants all the time. Are there any penalties/fines for businesses who hire illegal immigrants?

lol yeah please tell me how many americans wanna go and pick grapes or peaches or apples or work for any american farmers , why do you think the American california farmers hire these people ? because no americans wanna go and do that manual labor go ahead tell us how many kids you know who wanna go work the fields ....

I did as did many of my friends when I was in high school.  It was one of the only ways of getting a little spending money in the rural community I grew up in.
Cheap labor is kind of a crappy reason for supporting illegal immigration in my opinion.  

tempo_n_groove said:

Smellyman said:

Leader dehumanizes a people.

Leader blames those people. (job loss, sucking money from economy, rape, drugs, crime)

Base starts to believe. (already did really)

They are the reason for our failure or country declining.

Get state TV (Fox, Breitbart, etc. , and all radio talk shows) to spew propaganda regardless of facts or reason.

Base believes they are the reason for their troubles.

Implement policy that starts rounding them up with declaration from Sessions (Goebbles)

Get Law Enforcement to comply and that is the right thing to do.

Put them in camps in cages (or walls with chain link fences)

Not similar to 1938 at all.

Comparing us now to Nazi Germany is a joke.  Please stop.

The comparison has been made and it's legitimate.

We are supposed to learn from our mistakes... not repeat them. The holocaust started with baby steps and mutated into something grotesque. Sarajevo had just hosted the Olympics before bursting into a horrific civil war.

Stop the downward spiral at the outset. Don't wait for shit to hit the fan and be one of those freaking idiots asking, "What happened?"

unsung said:

Cliffy6745 said:

josevolution said:

Stop separating kids from their parents ! 

Simple as that...

Stop trying to invade the country.

Most definitely eating some delicious tacos and barbacoa made by undocumented (and in one case very vocal and outspoken) immigrants this weekend.

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

mcgruff10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

They made the choice to come here illegally so don't whine that when they do so they have to deal with the consequences. 

seeking asylum is not illegal. crossing the border between ports is. separating family members is not "the consequences" as laid out in any law. it is the policy of this piece of shit admin to try to scare illegals from coming, and to strong arm congress into giving him funding for his racist wall. 

LOL, how can a device be racist? Geez I have heard it all.

Put business owners that hire them in prison.  Case closed.  Problem solved.

And how Is illegal racist?  Illegal isn’t a race. 

who said using the term illegal is racist?

There is/was a movement to call illegals "undocumented" instead and wanted to say the term "illegals" was racist.  It was a thing and I believe it still is.

Correct.
Hugh, I blame businesses the most because they hire illegal immigrants all the time. Are there any penalties/fines for businesses who hire illegal immigrants?

lol yeah please tell me how many americans wanna go and pick grapes or peaches or apples or work for any american farmers , why do you think the American california farmers hire these people ? because no americans wanna go and do that manual labor go ahead tell us how many kids you know who wanna go work the fields ....

I did as did many of my friends when I was in high school.  It was one of the only ways of getting a little spending money in the rural community I grew up in.
Cheap labor is kind of a crappy reason for supporting illegal immigration in my opinion.  

Yeah key word did yrs ago how about today why aren't american kids working the fields ...

Still know plenty of kiddos from my hometown that do that kind of work due to the lack of other jobs there.  We’re not all “city boys”, lol

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Smellyman said:

Leader dehumanizes a people.

Leader blames those people. (job loss, sucking money from economy, rape, drugs, crime)

Base starts to believe. (already did really)

They are the reason for our failure or country declining.

Get state TV (Fox, Breitbart, etc. , and all radio talk shows) to spew propaganda regardless of facts or reason.

Base believes they are the reason for their troubles.

Implement policy that starts rounding them up with declaration from Sessions (Goebbles)

Get Law Enforcement to comply and that is the right thing to do.

Put them in camps in cages (or walls with chain link fences)

Not similar to 1938 at all.

Comparing us now to Nazi Germany is a joke.  Please stop.

The comparison has been made and it's legitimate.

We are supposed to learn from our mistakes... not repeat them. The holocaust started with baby steps and mutated into something grotesque. Sarajevo had just hosted the Olympics before bursting into a horrific civil war.

Stop the downward spiral at the outset. Don't wait for shit to hit the fan and be one of those freaking idiots asking, "What happened?"

This is what my wife is yelling at me lately. We are both libs, but I'm getting more conservative on immigration as gang issues get worse here in the NYC metro area.

The child separation situation is horrific, but if I were to commit a crime, I'm sure I'd be separated from my child.

The Juggler said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

The Juggler said:

unsung said:

my2hands said:

unsung said:

Nobody is being abused.

Let me take your 5 year old child by force and throw them in a cage without you knowing where they are, then talk to me about abuse, tough guy

People like you are giving America a bad name, you should be ashamed

You have zero empathy, for anyone, and its disgusting 

Not true.  I have empathy for the taxpayers that have to fund this mess.

HA
How about the 20 billion dollars your president wants us to pay for an idiotic wall....after promising he would convince Mexico to foot the bill for 2 years? How about the 2 trillion dollars their tax plan adds to our deficit?

Is this guy for real?

You are a hypocritical mess...

I actually kinda think that spending the money on the wall would be cheaper in the long run than prosecuting thousands upon thousands of people and putting the kids up to stay in warehouses every year.

Really? You think this zero tolerance policy is going to continue on a yearly basis?

I have no idea.  Let’s say they remove the zero tolerance- they still have war torn countries and cartels forcing people out of their countries for safety and ending up here.  Look at Europe, most of those countries bordering the type of countries have walls/fences/etc. and prosecute & throw people out who try to come in. But it can’t be cheap.