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This has to be the most useless thread on the board.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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If they can spend billions on their military then in my opinion they should be able to treat immigrants like human beings.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:dignin said:
Same as what we do here in Canada.mace1229 said:I’m not for breaking families apart either. But I saw this asked and didn’t see anyone answer. What would you suggest be done?
Send the whole family back? Ignore the fact they broke immigration laws? Or something else?
In fairness to the US... the degree of difficulty they face dealing with immigration is much greater than that we face. With our oceans and the US buffering us from everyone... it's kind of easy for us to sit back and talk of how countries should be better.
That being said... stripping children from their parents is barbaric.0 -
I mean really, aren't they all? It's just internet banter and no action among the same dozen posters in every thread with an occasional guest appearance.F Me In The Brain said:This has to be the most useless thread on the board.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
tbergs said:
I mean really, aren't they all? It's just internet banter and no action among the same dozen posters in every thread with an occasional guest appearance.F Me In The Brain said:This has to be the most useless thread on the board.You mean nobody has changed anybodies mind here? What? You mean I've wasted all this time? NOOO!And yet we all keep coming back for more. Masochists!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Well, I think we're getting really close to convincing Mcgruff that Riot Act is a masterpiece and You Are is pure gold. I think Thirty is also reconsidering whether Trump supporters have 2 teeth instead of 1.brianlux said:tbergs said:
I mean really, aren't they all? It's just internet banter and no action among the same dozen posters in every thread with an occasional guest appearance.F Me In The Brain said:This has to be the most useless thread on the board.You mean nobody has changed anybodies mind here? What? You mean I've wasted all this time? NOOO!And yet we all keep coming back for more. Masochists!
It's a hopeless situation...0 -
And Trumpeters are almost convinced that the current regime is the political low point for our country.
Condition Critical, indeed.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Never!!!tbergs said:
Well, I think we're getting really close to convincing Mcgruff that Riot Act is a masterpiece and You Are is pure gold. I think Thirty is also reconsidering whether Trump supporters have 2 teeth instead of 1.brianlux said:tbergs said:
I mean really, aren't they all? It's just internet banter and no action among the same dozen posters in every thread with an occasional guest appearance.F Me In The Brain said:This has to be the most useless thread on the board.You mean nobody has changed anybodies mind here? What? You mean I've wasted all this time? NOOO!And yet we all keep coming back for more. Masochists!I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Good morning my thoughts are with the kids and not anyone’s opinion of the situation , if you find this thread to be useless that’s ok I’ll be here to remind everyone that America is now storing children in tent city’s in Texas outdoors in the heat of the day !!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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And this is why we have the politicians we do and no one can ever discuss the tough topics. As soon as you start pointing out the gray...they try to put you in a box.mcgruff10 said:
I ve said multiple times that I don’t agree with that policy.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.hippiemom = goodness0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
Absolutely.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.
Actions have consequences.0 -
tbergs said:
Well, I think we're getting really close to convincing Mcgruff that Riot Act is a masterpiece and You Are is pure gold. I think Thirty is also reconsidering whether Trump supporters have 2 teeth instead of 1.brianlux said:tbergs said:
I mean really, aren't they all? It's just internet banter and no action among the same dozen posters in every thread with an occasional guest appearance.F Me In The Brain said:This has to be the most useless thread on the board.You mean nobody has changed anybodies mind here? What? You mean I've wasted all this time? NOOO!And yet we all keep coming back for more. Masochists!
I saw a photo of a bunch of Trump guys. They were shooting their guns in the air and drinking beer in the back of a rusted Fargo. One of them was blowing into a moonshine jug. I thought he had two teeth, but I magnified the picture and saw he only had one tooth- the other 'tooth' was actually a mint.
The guy still only had one tooth, but obviously he's one of the more classier Trump guys- concerning himself with halitosis. He even had GWG denim overalls and he wore socks in his boots! I had my suspicions he might have been Rolemodel... but I really can't tell."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Ok I agree but still not humane to be separating them you don’t think just sending back together shouldn’t be an option ...unsung said:
Absolutely.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.
Actions have consequences.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
unsung said:
Absolutely.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.
Actions have consequences.
So, you are arguing that it's okay to impose any consequence on an action, without regard to proportionality, morality, or human rights? Given your "absolutely", what else would it be okay to do to those kids?
You don't really believe in smaller government. You believe in smaller government imposition on yourself, and massive government imposition on people you disagree with.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Question: how would you send them back? And where do you send them to?josevolution said:
Ok I agree but still not humane to be separating them you don’t think just sending back together shouldn’t be an option ...unsung said:
Absolutely.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.
Actions have consequences.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Even Sessions' own church leaders don't agree with him that separating kids from their parents is christian.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-immigration-family-separation-border_us_5b23ff24e4b0783ae128f90d
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Great question for which I don’t have an answer except to try to work with the countries on footing the bill formcgruff10 said:
Question: how would you send them back? And where do you send them to?josevolution said:
Ok I agree but still not humane to be separating them you don’t think just sending back together shouldn’t be an option ...unsung said:
Absolutely.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.
Actions have consequences.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Question: how would you send them back? And where do you send them to?josevolution said:
Ok I agree but still not humane to be separating them you don’t think just sending back together shouldn’t be an option ...unsung said:
Absolutely.josevolution said:
So because illegal is illegal it’s ok to separate kids from parents ? Am I correct in thinkingmcgruff10 said:
Correct. Illegal is illegal. I have zero problem with legal immigration. Come one come all! Lolcincybearcat said:
Except of course I didn’t break the law trying to illegally enter another country.PJ_Soul said:
If it was your kid, you'd call it prison.cincybearcat said:
I'm not sure I'd call it prison. And the parents certainly share some of the blame in this as they are the ones that broke the law. However, I think we need a catch and release policy at the border....just turn the whole family away. Of course most will try again...can you just continue to catch and release? Obviously this isn't the solution, but there aren't a lot of good answers when you've let something go unchecked for decades. This is a complex problem that needs lots of different solutions to overhaul. But we should start by not separating families. It's just not right and in the long run is likely to generate enemies of the US and hurt our security.HughFreakingDillon said:
I gotta say dude, I find the way this is going down to be appalling, and find your indifference to it equally so. this is not faux outrage. this is children in fucking prison by the government of the US. with the president blaming the party not in power for it, all the while cozying up to a murderous dictator. the time for outrage, if it wasn't before, is now.PJPOWER said:
Damn, I knew I left something out.OnWis97 said:
You forgot to make a Tide Pods joke.PJPOWER said:
Give them xboxes and they would just be living the normal life of kids in the USA...josevolution said:I know the kids wanna be free to be outside doing what kids do having fun not being housed in empty old warehouses or tent city's ....
You're right though - It's just not right and can lead to nothing good for America.
Actions have consequences.Edward Abbey had an interesting thought on that:"... if we must meddle, as we have always done, let us meddle for a change in a constructive way. Stop every campesino at our southern border, give him a handgun, a good rifle, and a case of ammunition, and send him home. He will know what to do with our gifts and good wishes. The people know who their enemies are. "Abbey was liberal to radical on several issues but rather (seemingly, anyway) conservative on immigration. He wrote an article for NY Times that they refused to publish. I'm not 100% in agreement with Abbey here (any Abbey fan will tell you almost none agree with everything the man wrote and those who claim to are probably full of beans) but here it is your your consideration:
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Put pressure on the countries where these folks are coming from with sanctions , that’s the crux of the situation most if not all of the countries in Central America have terrible governance at the top so people have to flee ..what else can we attribute this situation too, so no I don’t have the answer on how to send them back or where too ..jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Are you more angry at the way the kids are tested or that they are separated from their parents?josevolution said:Good morning my thoughts are with the kids and not anyone’s opinion of the situation , if you find this thread to be useless that’s ok I’ll be here to remind everyone that America is now storing children in tent city’s in Texas outdoors in the heat of the day !!
while separating them from their parents I beleieve is a new practice, children have been “stored” in literal cages before with little outcry from the public.
Im not saying I like what’s happening, I just find it interesting that no one had a problem with it 4 years ago, but now Trump is evil for doing the same thing.
I linked an article the other day that talked about for even a former Obama staff member used pictures from 2014 and passed them on as child cruelty from Trump.0 -
https://amp.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5
Yeah Obama did it too but they at least had a policy on how to process the kids from what the article states orange Baffoon does not ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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