I have a question about guns

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    edited April 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.
    I have a hard time getting a pro-gun person define what responsible gun ownersip and handling means. 
    Are these people friends and family?

    I have a gun nut brother who will talk about responsible gun handling. I’ve seen things with him and my nephew that I would call irresponsible, though. It seems like there’s a lot of individual variation, as well as supporting irresponsible gun handling in the name of 2nd A pride. The common human flaw applies where we think other people are the problem and not ourselves. 
    That sucks bud. What exactly are they doing?  You every say anything to him or is it his way or the highway?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    This literally takes five seconds for me to put on and take off. I never understood why people don’t lock up their firearms or put them in safes. 
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  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    Nice broad stroke right there.  
    Who says America is “deserving” of guns?  It is a constitutional right. 
    That was my point. American people are allowed guns just by being American.
    Why are you living your lives so threatened by things? 
    In the rest of the world we worry about grey hairs and putting on a few pounds, not people killing us all the time.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    edited April 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    Nice broad stroke right there.  
    Who says America is “deserving” of guns?  It is a constitutional right. 
    That was my point. American people are allowed guns just by being American.
    Why are you living your lives so threatened by things? 
    In the rest of the world we worry about grey hairs and putting on a few pounds, not people killing us all the time.
    I don't live in a war zone so I'm hardly thinking about being killed all the time but I do like to hunt and target shoot and have a few firearms  just in case.  Nothing wrong with being prepared in my eyes.  
    Do any americans actually think they might be killed all the time or are we generalizing?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
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  • mcgruff10
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    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
    He's one asshole that ran his mouth.  I' m not sure how he represents the masses.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
    He's one asshole that ran his mouth.  I' m not sure how he represents the masses.
    Where are the “responsible” masses condemning his “responsible” advocacy?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
    He's one asshole that ran his mouth.  I' m not sure how he represents the masses.
    He’s not just an asshole, he’s a fucking sitting board member of the NRA. It’s amazing how far you “responsible” gun owners will go to defend the insanity.
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  • mcgruff10
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
    He's one asshole that ran his mouth.  I' m not sure how he represents the masses.
    He’s not just an asshole, he’s a fucking sitting board member of the NRA. It’s amazing how far you “responsible” gun owners will go to defend the insanity.
    Who exactly defended him?  I think he s a piece of shit. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
    He's one asshole that ran his mouth.  I' m not sure how he represents the masses.
    He’s not just an asshole, he’s a fucking sitting board member of the NRA. It’s amazing how far you “responsible” gun owners will go to defend the insanity.
    Who exactly defended him?  I think he s a piece of shit. 
    It’s not that anyone defended him, it’s that the “responsible” gun owners, pro gun politicians and pro gun advocacy groups have been silent and it’s deafening. But a deranged dem shoots up a repube baseball game and my god the outrage, by both sides. If a “responsible” gun owner acts on Shithead Ted’s advocacy, you’ll have blood on your hands.
     
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is it “responsible” for a “responsible” gun owner and NRA board member, Ted Shithead Nugent, to openly advocate for the shooting of dems onsite like rabid coyotes? Is that fucking “responsible” advocacy for gun rights? Further, where are all the “responsible” repubes and gun owners condemning such talk, on a mass media platform no less? Where are the “responsible” ones? The gun rights crowd and the NRA are the most irresponsible advocates out there. “Responsible” my fucking ass.
    He's one asshole that ran his mouth.  I' m not sure how he represents the masses.
    He’s not just an asshole, he’s a fucking sitting board member of the NRA. It’s amazing how far you “responsible” gun owners will go to defend the insanity.
    Who exactly defended him?  I think he s a piece of shit. 
    Defended him by minimizing the importance of his words. As an NRA board member, he invited people to shoot liberals, and no one is really batting an eye. Are the responsible NRA members calling for his censure? Calling for the NRA to repudiate his words? Calling for him to lost his board position. 

    In a word, no. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Someone should ask patriotic Shithead Ted how he feels about this:

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    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mace1229 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
    Do you think that she’s not? 
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  • Smellyman
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    edited April 2018
    mace1229 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
    Do you think that she’s not? 
    It's like when people say 'why don't Muslim leaders speak out against terrorism more and stand up to crazy fundamentalists'.  The entire right wing mouthpieces are crazies at fox, breitbart, infowars and so much more psycho sources, but they won't speak out against them because that is actually what they watch and where they get their 'news'.  Or internet memes.
  • brianlux
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    edited April 2018
    Going back to the "responsible gun owners" discussion a little way back, I have a question or two.  Why does America need so many gun owners in the first place, responsible or not?  Seriously?  Or three.  Why are there so many gun owners in America when so many other countries get along fine without them?
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  • mace1229
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    Smellyman said:
    mace1229 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
    Do you think that she’s not? 
    It's like when people say 'why don't Muslim leaders speak out against terrorism more and stand up to crazy fundamentalists'.  The entire right wing mouthpieces are crazies at fox, breitbart, infowars and so much more psycho sources, but they won't speak out against them because that is actually what they watch and where they get their 'news'.  Or internet memes.
    So now your comparing Laura Ingraham to Muslim Terrorists? Why do we need to speak out against her? Does the left speak out against anything crazy they talk about on The View?   They’ve said some weird stuff on that show, but t I don’t consider them spokeswomen for anyone.
    funny how you think all conservatives watch only fox and bow down to anyone on that channel. Not really accurate, when you consider that 3 million views is a big night for that program and roughly half the country is conservative.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mace1229 said:
    Smellyman said:
    mace1229 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
    Do you think that she’s not? 
    It's like when people say 'why don't Muslim leaders speak out against terrorism more and stand up to crazy fundamentalists'.  The entire right wing mouthpieces are crazies at fox, breitbart, infowars and so much more psycho sources, but they won't speak out against them because that is actually what they watch and where they get their 'news'.  Or internet memes.
    So now your comparing Laura Ingraham to Muslim Terrorists? Why do we need to speak out against her? Does the left speak out against anything crazy they talk about on The View?   They’ve said some weird stuff on that show, but t I don’t consider them spokeswomen for anyone.
    funny how you think all conservatives watch only fox and bow down to anyone on that channel. Not really accurate, when you consider that 3 million views is a big night for that program and roughly half the country is conservative.
    Yeah, she’s a spokesperson for the right. Has been for a long time. Her television show is by no means her only area of influence, and probably not the largest one. 

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/lifestyle/style/laura-ingraham-was-trump-before-trump-but-is-she-made-for-tv/2017/10/24/d1481916-b50e-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited April 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    Nice broad stroke right there.  
    Who says America is “deserving” of guns?  It is a constitutional right. 
    Not all gun ownership is protected by the 2A... Connecticut successfully banned sales of all AR 15 style weapons after Sandy Hook and it was held up and passed over by the SCOTUS... 

    I don't think this is talked about enough
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    Nice broad stroke right there.  
    Who says America is “deserving” of guns?  It is a constitutional right. 
    The GOP is currently putting forward an amendment to the Constitution. This one requires that the budget be balanced, a particularly amusing irony, given the budget they just passed. 

    If if they can make one amendment, they could make another. In fact, once the Constitution had the first amendment, you completely lost the argument that the document is inviolable. 
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