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March For Our Lives - Parkland Students Demanding Action

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,711
    Good to see this back up and running for kids sake (other other living beings!  :smile:  )
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    http://www.tmz.com/2018/03/29/laura-ingraham-losing-advertisers-david-hogg-cyberbullying-tripadvisor/
    Another Fox idiot putting foot in mouth , if she was part of my family she would not be welcome to easter diner or any diner ever again screw you ugly human ....
    Article from the NYT on this issue. 

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/business/media/laura-ingraham-david-hogg.amp.html

    It describes Ingraham as “apologizing under pressure”, which is an interesting turn of phrase. Seems she now “regrets” her comments. Easy to regret them when your funding is pulled. 
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    brianwpbrianwp Posts: 125

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    brianwp said:

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

    I agree.

    It's odious that Ingraham says that she apologized "in the spirit of the Holy Week". What kind of Christian is she to have said those things in the first place? It seems to me that if you ask yourself "when exactly is the right time to make fun of a teen who was the victim of a mass shooting for his college acceptance stats?", you should be able to answer "never". 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,597
    brianwp said:

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

    This has been the repube party’s playbook since Bush I when they realized they couldn’t win in the arena of ideas, that the conservative philosophy of trickle down, discrimination and state sanctioned religion doesn’t appeal to the majority, but to name a few. Thank Steve Atwater, Willy Horton, Dukakis in a tank, swift boating of Kerry after the sliming of McCain, etc, etc. Its  all they have, to appeal to the most debased amongst us because their policies don’t stand the test of time as a regression of society.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    brianwp said:

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

    Fuckin' A.

    Hey!  Assholes!  Leave them kids alone.

    As to repube, Senor Max, is that like a merkin?
    =)
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,597
    hedonist said:
    brianwp said:

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

    Fuckin' A.

    Hey!  Assholes!  Leave them kids alone.

    As to repube, Senor Max, is that like a merkin?
    =)
    I’m not sure, ask baller?
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,823
    brianwp said:

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

    It’s also a symptom of a large segment of the population putting “owning libs” above everything else.
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Why exactly was Miley Cyrus there? 
    I guess to sing & show support why is she not allowed? 
    But her? She's probably just using it to further her career.
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    OnWis97 said:
    brianwp said:

    When you have to resort to personal attacks on children that have been through this, it means you don’t have a legitimate counter-argument and you know you’re on the losing side of this debate.

    It’s also a symptom of a large segment of the population putting “owning libs” above everything else.
    It has become the dominant ideological pursuit of the right.  Opposition to real and perceived liberalism has eclipsed every other issue for most of the Republican and Libertarian parties.
    They don't stand for anything as much as they stand against liberals, and that's just sad.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    Why exactly was Miley Cyrus there? 
    I guess to sing & show support why is she not allowed? 
    But her? She's probably just using it to further her career.
    I think there were many celebrities at the rallies, and maybe the same could be said for all of them. Is there any reason in particular you would single her out?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,294
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,236
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,294
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
    Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul' - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AxBnloQgjTOe55XXCWQVceg
    its creeps like this idiot that really need to get ridiculed ...
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,542
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
    Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul' - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AxBnloQgjTOe55XXCWQVceg
    its creeps like this idiot that really need to get ridiculed ...
    That terrible ted what a mans man he is
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,542
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
    Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul' - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AxBnloQgjTOe55XXCWQVceg
    its creeps like this idiot that really need to get ridiculed ...

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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,358
    Can someone please explain why an adult would 'attack' the Parkland survivors? I/we can't even imagine what these kids went through. It does not matter to me if the student was caught in the crossfire, sitting in the next classroom, or in the bathroom down the hall when this horrific event took place. Their lives are forever changed.
    Idiots, leave these kids alone. Let them grieve, protest, mobilize, etc in their own way.
    Shame on you Ted Nugent.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,597
    Can someone please explain why an adult would 'attack' the Parkland survivors? I/we can't even imagine what these kids went through. It does not matter to me if the student was caught in the crossfire, sitting in the next classroom, or in the bathroom down the hall when this horrific event took place. Their lives are forever changed.
    Idiots, leave these kids alone. Let them grieve, protest, mobilize, etc in their own way.
    Shame on you Ted Nugent.
    Or if they were home sick for the day. Christ, it’s like all that matters are guns. Ted Nugent doesn’t have kids does he?
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    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
    Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul' - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AxBnloQgjTOe55XXCWQVceg
    its creeps like this idiot that really need to get ridiculed ...

    Lol
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    ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    I wound up in the middle of the Seattle march. Amazing scenes, as someone not from the U.S. All of the kids involved should be proud of themselves.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    EODM's Jesse Hughes Apologizes After March For Our Lives Tirade

    "I was not attempting to impugn the youth of America and this beautiful thing that they accomplished. I truly am sorry," singer says

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eodms-jesse-hughes-apologizes-for-march-for-our-lives-slam-w518592

    What a tool, I don't buy this "apology" for one second.


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,597
    dignin said:

    EODM's Jesse Hughes Apologizes After March For Our Lives Tirade

    "I was not attempting to impugn the youth of America and this beautiful thing that they accomplished. I truly am sorry," singer says

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eodms-jesse-hughes-apologizes-for-march-for-our-lives-slam-w518592

    What a tool, I don't buy this "apology" for one second.


    Fuck him
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    dignin said:

    EODM's Jesse Hughes Apologizes After March For Our Lives Tirade

    "I was not attempting to impugn the youth of America and this beautiful thing that they accomplished. I truly am sorry," singer says

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eodms-jesse-hughes-apologizes-for-march-for-our-lives-slam-w518592

    What a tool, I don't buy this "apology" for one second.



    The only thing missing from what he said is the item left unspoken: "Please continue to support me!"

    (The true motivation behind such a meaningless apology)
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    dignin said:

    EODM's Jesse Hughes Apologizes After March For Our Lives Tirade

    "I was not attempting to impugn the youth of America and this beautiful thing that they accomplished. I truly am sorry," singer says

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eodms-jesse-hughes-apologizes-for-march-for-our-lives-slam-w518592

    What a tool, I don't buy this "apology" for one second.


    “I was not attempting to impugne the youth...”. 

    Well, what the hell were you trying to do when you called them “vile abusers” and “pathetic and disgusting”? 
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    brianwpbrianwp Posts: 125

    Didn’t know much about him until recently. Found this article from 2015. Big Trump supporter and birther. 

    I’m actually more surprised now at the apology than the original remarks (note the ironic headline)

    http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-devil-and-jesse-hughes-the-donald-trump-supporting-drug-hoovering-frontman-for-eagles-of-death-metal-will-not-apologize-for-anything/

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,711
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
    Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul' - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AxBnloQgjTOe55XXCWQVceg
    its creeps like this idiot that really need to get ridiculed ...
    Ted Nugent is either the worlds most brilliant anti-gun NRA infiltrator (by making the NRA look so ridiculous he is spoiling their image) or he's the world's biggest idiot.  Not calling him names.  Just throwing a few options out there.  
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,294
    brianlux said:
    I hope these kids don’t loose hope and stay on message specially with the opposition trying to shut them down ..
    Agreed. They have the power and support, just need to channel it in the right direction.
    Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul' - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AxBnloQgjTOe55XXCWQVceg
    its creeps like this idiot that really need to get ridiculed ...
    Ted Nugent is either the worlds most brilliant anti-gun NRA infiltrator (by making the NRA look so ridiculous he is spoiling their image) or he's the world's biggest idiot.  Not calling him names.  Just throwing a few options out there.  
    He deserves to be called idiot creep asshole as far as I’m concerned , same with the other idiots attacking these kids even poster here who has been diminishing these kids 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    Yay for children using their 1st Amendment rights!!!
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
    I’ll probably join them if an event is organized in my city.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    PJPOWER said:
    Yay for children using their 1st Amendment rights!!!
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
    I’ll probably join them if an event is organized in my city.
    Exploitation!


    ;)
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2018
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Yay for children using their 1st Amendment rights!!!
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
    I’ll probably join them if an event is organized in my city.
    Exploitation!


    ;)
    Well I was told here that using children to further a political agenda is not exploitation, so I guess it’s not.
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