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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    I’ve said it before, the repubes can’t win the policy debate so they’re resorting to scorched earth tactics instead, damaging our democracy and causing irreparable harm. Look at what Obama had to clean up.
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  • CM189191
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Look no further than the damage caused by repubes just saying no to Obama for 8 years. We’re on our 4th potential government shut down because we don’t have a budget. 4 times in a year and they control every branch. Purposely making government dysfunctional is another avenue to Facism. It’s not hysteria. Nor should it be normalized.
     
    H 2 the M gets it!

    AND THEY STOLE A goddamn SUPREME COURT SEAT

    this is not normal times
    Exactly. As well as packing the judiciary with conservative picks, qualified and not. 

    Not to mention the GOP blocked 36 judicial nominations during the first five years of Obama's presidency, the same total as the previous 40 years combined.

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Look no further than the damage caused by repubes just saying no to Obama for 8 years. We’re on our 4th potential government shut down because we don’t have a budget. 4 times in a year and they control every branch. Purposely making government dysfunctional is another avenue to Facism. It’s not hysteria. Nor should it be normalized.
     
    H 2 the M gets it!

    AND THEY STOLE A goddamn SUPREME COURT SEAT

    this is not normal times
    Don't worry about it, cause he's not literally Hitler and they aren't literally brown shirts. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    dignin said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Look no further than the damage caused by repubes just saying no to Obama for 8 years. We’re on our 4th potential government shut down because we don’t have a budget. 4 times in a year and they control every branch. Purposely making government dysfunctional is another avenue to Facism. It’s not hysteria. Nor should it be normalized.
     
    H 2 the M gets it!

    AND THEY STOLE A goddamn SUPREME COURT SEAT

    this is not normal times
    Don't worry about it, cause he's not literally Hitler and they aren't literally brown shirts. 
    But the good people on the other side march with tiki torches and shout “the Jews will not replace us” though.
     
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,871
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I love it whenever someone's view aligns with someone else's that automatically means "they get it!". LOL
    You get it!!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    It’s not hard to see.

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/31/the-12-early-warning-signs-of-fascism/

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  • josevolution
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    We have to be very concerned with how this administration with the help of GOP are slowly dismantling our Democracy they are being very subtle in ways that the uneducated will never realize till it's too late ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,871
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372634-pentagon-planning-grand-military-parade-for-trump-report

    The Pentagon has reportedly begun planning a military parade at the request of President Trump.

    Trump repeatedly has expressed an interest in holding a display of America’s military might, and upped his calls for a parade after witnessingthe Bastille Day celebrations on a trip to France last summer.

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  • dignin
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    josevolution said:
    We have to be very concerned with how this administration with the help of GOP are slowly dismantling our Democracy they are being very subtle in ways that the uneducated will never realize till it's too late ...
    jose doesn't need a revolution to get it!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Gern Blansten said:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372634-pentagon-planning-grand-military-parade-for-trump-report

    The Pentagon has reportedly begun planning a military parade at the request of President Trump.

    Trump repeatedly has expressed an interest in holding a display of America’s military might, and upped his calls for a parade after witnessingthe Bastille Day celebrations on a trip to France last summer.

    Nothing dictatory about that. Normal presidents do this stuff all the time.
  • CM189191
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    Gern Blansten said:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372634-pentagon-planning-grand-military-parade-for-trump-report

    The Pentagon has reportedly begun planning a military parade at the request of President Trump.

    Trump repeatedly has expressed an interest in holding a display of America’s military might, and upped his calls for a parade after witnessingthe Bastille Day celebrations on a trip to France last summer.

    This is sad and terrifying .

    Much like his display of battle flags in the oval office

    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538008/
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    Gern Blansten said:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372634-pentagon-planning-grand-military-parade-for-trump-report

    The Pentagon has reportedly begun planning a military parade at the request of President Trump.

    Trump repeatedly has expressed an interest in holding a display of America’s military might, and upped his calls for a parade after witnessingthe Bastille Day celebrations on a trip to France last summer.

    He has a small dick.
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  • Lizard
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    when I hear trump wants a military parade the first picture that comes to mind is Kim Jong Un
    Ugggh

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited February 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the headlines I see when I google "trump treason" are laughable and fear mongering at its finest. "in dictator move...." is one of the funniest. But hey, I guess I'm a trump supporter now, right?
    But he makes a lot of "dictator moves". I'm not sure I see the benefit of blowing of any of his comments, be they serious or not. All of them speak to his general thinking. Even jokes have a kernel of truth, and since you mentioned context... the context of Trump in particular saying shit like this actually does mean something more than if someone else said it.
    Pretty sure nobody is accusing you of being a Trump supporter, lol. 
    I have been called a Trump apologist in the past for no other reason than exhibiting some objectivity, so who knows what's next.

    Obama reversed his position on the Patriot Act when he was president from when he was senator. I didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit over it. 

    I didn't say blow them off. I said don't jump to hysterics every time he says something stupid. it is important to call him out on his bullshit in a rational way, but all this constant over-reaction will desensitize everyone to everything. The boy who cried wolf, as it were. 
    But Obama didn't regularly and repeatedly display the traits and actions of a dictator. That comparison actually kind of proves my point. If Trump only said this, or just one thing in particular, and no other things that make him seem like a fascist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone understands the context in which Trump said this specific comment - we're not all idiots. But the fact that he was "making a funny" in this one instance really isn't the point.
    not sure how it proves your point when I wasn't countering your point to begin with. Again, I said don't blow it off, but it's not as hysterical as everyone is making it out to be. there are checks and balances to what he can do. Of course Obama didn't act like this; for one, he seems like a likeable guy, two, even if he wasn't, he is infinitely smarter than Trump and knew what to say in public and what not to. 

    and yes, we would be having this conversation if he only said one thing like this. we have been having this conversation since the first stupid thing he said. it just so happens that the topic of conversation changes because he says things like this quicker than we can forget the last one. 

    there is a very small subsection of supporters that actually take trump seriously at his every word. everyone else supports "his" agenda, but simply blows off his stupid comments as just that, stupid. they tolerate his idiocy to further their conservative agenda. 
    :confused: Er, okay... what I meant was, then, the Obama comparison doesn't work. You didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit because him doing it didn't make him suddenly seem like a dictator (of course, it was controversial - it's not like people ignored what it meant for America). I actually don't feel like anyone has been "hysterical" about it anyway TBH. And I don't see how "checks and balances" really play in here. Frankly, I think these so-called checks and balances are much less reliable than a lot of people seem to think they are. Democracy is degraded slowly through propaganda, through a bunch of little things that work on the minds of the people and on the way government is run. That only a minority of people support Trump doesn't change that fact. All the tweets, all the quips, combined with all the firings, all the attacks on the justice system and the media, the subtle but purposeful erosion of public trust in the current system ... all those thing culminate into something very dangerous that these "checks and balances" don't necessarily stop in the long run.
    how are they less reliable than people think they are? so Trump can just change the constitution on his own so he can become the ultimate ruler for all times?
    Who knows? I'm talking about the slow, insidious growth of a system that hurts everyone except those in power, be it a fascist state, a corptocracy, an oligarchy, or whatever. There is some seriously Orwellian shit going on in America right now, and I actually think it's a little naive to just assume that it's impossible for this kind of thing to happen just because of the Constitution. The Constitution isn't the end all and be all of the universe. It is fallible, and it and anything like it are always at risk. Shit falls apart eventually. Trump could very well be the beginning of the slow fall of America or the profound transformation of American into something worse. It happens to every society eventually, so I'm not too sure why some assume it's suddenly impossible just because of the Constitution. And no, I'm not paranoid. I'm just looking at it objectively.
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  • rgambs
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    Lizard said:
    when I hear trump wants a military parade the first picture that comes to mind is Kim Jong Un
    Ugggh

    It's pathetic, isn't it?
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Lizard said:
    when I hear trump wants a military parade the first picture that comes to mind is Kim Jong Un
    Ugggh

    Any dictator comes to mind.



  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Grand military parade... 

    Nothing to see here, folks
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    The Constitution and our democracy is built on trust of the system we created and holding those values built into the words on paper in high regard. Trust in a one on one relationship isn’t a physical thing, it’s subjective. The same goes for the trust within a society. An attack on democracy means you attack the trust. trump’s attack on the systems and the values they represent is an attack on our trust. He looks the other way with Russian meddling, he attacks the legislative process, he accuses law enforcement that is a check in the system, of corruption, he trashes judges and court of appeals, he attacks due process, we’re a country of immigrants and his agenda is xenophobic, we’re supposed to a country of opportunity, but he’s funneling money to the top which restricts movement at the lower end. The upside to his ineptitude is that he is doing less damage than if he was smart and skillful. Right now is a historic opportunity for our democracy. I’m hopeful. 
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    I can’t help but wonder if the same thoughts some of you all have about the parade also existed when France did their military parade?  Or is it just a Trump thing?
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