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Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls.
The rules don't know him? That was funny.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.Degeneratefk said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls.
The rules don't know him? That was funny.
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I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules.Halifax2TheMax said:
In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.Degeneratefk said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls.
The rules don't know him? That was funny.
That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Or come in second. 11-5 and missing it is bullshit. But that said, BB LOST his starting QB, has never had big money/name, complete game, position players and he goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs. Since then? 9 straight AFC east titles and last year 28-3. Fuck Vince Lombardi.Degeneratefk said:
I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules.Halifax2TheMax said:
In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.Degeneratefk said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls.
The rules don't know him? That was funny.
That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Or come in second. 11-5 and missing it is bullshit. But that said, BB LOST his starting QB, has never had big money/name, complete game, position players and he goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs. Since then? 9 straight AFC east titles and last year 28-3. Fuck Vince Lombardi.Degeneratefk said:
I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules.Halifax2TheMax said:
In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.Degeneratefk said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls.
The rules don't know him? That was funny.
That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth.
Can't compare eras.
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Well, it’s hard not to when you era began in 2001 and here it is 2017. 16 years of unbridled success. Not without its controversy, mind you. But stick um? Remember that? Kelvin Winslow getting injections on the sideline between plays? Jerry rice admitting to basically cheating ? Romanowski and his tackle box full of pills? In the grasp not being called or the fumble that never was? Aaron ouch my collarbone hurts Rodgers admitting he prefers balls over inflated? (And they are). Mike Tomlin mad all the time?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Or come in second. 11-5 and missing it is bullshit. But that said, BB LOST his starting QB, has never had big money/name, complete game, position players and he goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs. Since then? 9 straight AFC east titles and last year 28-3. Fuck Vince Lombardi.Degeneratefk said:
I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules.Halifax2TheMax said:
In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.Degeneratefk said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls.
The rules don't know him? That was funny.
That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth.
Can't compare eras.
I'm not a Pats fan... but I'm not a hater either. I respect them- how can you not?
That said... you can't compare eras.
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Why is it bullshit? One year the AFC had a lot of good teams. The pats 5 losses were all costly. I think they lost 3 different tie breakers that hear.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Geez Scott, because a team with a 7-9 record or 8-8 beat out 11-5. Math is not your strong suite?Degeneratefk said:Why is it bullshit? One year the AFC had a lot of good teams. The pats 5 losses were all costly. I think they lost 3 different tie breakers that hear.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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And dude? I’m over it. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the NFL. First and foremost, their a business.Degeneratefk said:Why is it bullshit? One year the AFC had a lot of good teams. The pats 5 losses were all costly. I think they lost 3 different tie breakers that hear.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
add BB to halifax’s list of man crushes.If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
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Amongst the Ani said:Montana and Walsh will always be linked. TB and BB will as well. Doesn’t matter what they do after they split up.
halfax would like to be linked to brady.
literally.If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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Jealous?Wobbie said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.Degeneratefk said:
You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.Degeneratefk said:This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb. I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
add BB to halifax’s list of man crushes.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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And, if BB wanted to fuck the Patriots by trading away their future at QB, he would have traded Garoppolo to the jets and Brisset to the Bills. But BB wanted to see both flourish somewhere and not be devoured by ineptitude. BB shows respect where earned.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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