Donald Trump

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  

This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.

MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  

This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.

Why the insistence to pretty up trump supporters? Nearly all of them absolutely condone his behavior. They say he "says what I'm thinking". They support his bigotry and all his ugliness. They aren't supporting him out of some forced opposition to Democrats. 

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  

This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.

Why the insistence to pretty up trump supporters? Nearly all of them absolutely condone his behavior. They say he "says what I'm thinking". They support his bigotry and all his ugliness. They aren't supporting him out of some forced opposition to Democrats. 

It’s not “prettying up” Trump supporters...it is educating you on who they actually are. They do no “absolutely condone his behavior”. This is the biggest misconception. There is a reason why his approval ratings never got much above 40% before the election and haven’t climbed after the election. His voters were given a choice between different kinds of “ugliness” and made a choice about which “ugliness” will be more productive and/or helpful in the long run. They like Trump’s agenda but do not like his ugliness. That being said his ugliness is useful in exposing the ugliness that exists everywhere. In 2020 Trump’s ugliness vs his results will be taken into account. This will then be compared to an opponent who hopefully will not have the baggage of Clinton ugliness. Again the voters will make a choice. Just like in Alabama if Republicans feel the ugliness factor is too great compared to the alternative they will stay home. Everyone should finally chill out and recognize that the deplorables are capable of making this decision.

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Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg

What a giant mess.

And yet he is winning

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?

Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.

It’s unfortunate that the pit is the only place you manage to feel this way and that it doesn’t carry over into your world view. But being a fan of Howard Stern, Donald Trump and Steve Bannon, the perfect trifecta of poison that you consume, willingly, it’s not surprising.
 

I’m not a fan of Steve Bannon but I don’t believe in silencing anybody. If you had a Sirius channel I would still keep my subscription.

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  

This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.

Why the insistence to pretty up trump supporters? Nearly all of them absolutely condone his behavior. They say he "says what I'm thinking". They support his bigotry and all his ugliness. They aren't supporting him out of some forced opposition to Democrats. 

It’s not “prettying up” Trump supporters...it is educating you on who they actually are. They do no “absolutely condone his behavior”. This is the biggest misconception. There is a reason why his approval ratings never got much above 40% before the election and haven’t climbed after the election. His voters were given a choice between different kinds of “ugliness” and made a choice about which “ugliness” will be more productive and/or helpful in the long run. They like Trump’s agenda but do not like his ugliness. That being said his ugliness is useful in exposing the ugliness that exists everywhere. In 2020 Trump’s ugliness vs his results will be taken into account. This will then be compared to an opponent who hopefully will not have the baggage of Clinton ugliness. Again the voters will make a choice. Just like in Alabama if Republicans feel the ugliness factor is too great compared to the alternative they will stay home. Everyone should finally chill out and recognize that the deplorables are capable of making this decision.

You live in Canada, wtf do you know about trump voters/supporters and red state America? 

A guy who sexually assaulted/harassed children and believes homosexuals are evil and the abolition of slavery and womens right to vote were bad ideas just lost by 1.5% when he should have been beat by 80%

Stay in Ontario, bro.

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  

This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.

Why the insistence to pretty up trump supporters? Nearly all of them absolutely condone his behavior. They say he "says what I'm thinking". They support his bigotry and all his ugliness. They aren't supporting him out of some forced opposition to Democrats. 

It’s not “prettying up” Trump supporters...it is educating you on who they actually are. They do no “absolutely condone his behavior”. This is the biggest misconception. There is a reason why his approval ratings never got much above 40% before the election and haven’t climbed after the election. His voters were given a choice between different kinds of “ugliness” and made a choice about which “ugliness” will be more productive and/or helpful in the long run. They like Trump’s agenda but do not like his ugliness. That being said his ugliness is useful in exposing the ugliness that exists everywhere. In 2020 Trump’s ugliness vs his results will be taken into account. This will then be compared to an opponent who hopefully will not have the baggage of Clinton ugliness. Again the voters will make a choice. Just like in Alabama if Republicans feel the ugliness factor is too great compared to the alternative they will stay home. Everyone should finally chill out and recognize that the deplorables are capable of making this decision.

You live in Canada, wtf do you know about trump voters/supporters and red state America? 

A guy who sexually assaulted/harassed children and believes homosexuals are evil and the abolition of slavery and womens right to vote were bad ideas just lost by 1.5% when he should have been beat by 80%

Stay in Ontario, bro.

BS44325 said:

Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be. 

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg

What a giant mess.

And yet he is winning

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?

Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.

It’s unfortunate that the pit is the only place you manage to feel this way and that it doesn’t carry over into your world view. But being a fan of Howard Stern, Donald Trump and Steve Bannon, the perfect trifecta of poison that you consume, willingly, it’s not surprising.
 

I’m not a fan of Steve Bannon but I don’t believe in silencing anybody. If you had a Sirius channel I would still keep my subscription.

But you are a fan of Team Trump Treason and Howard Stern as evidence by their absence in your statement. I’m not surprised. Listen to a little Rushbo here and there? Maybe some Michael Savage? Ollie North? So, what’s the big world evil that needs Team Trump Treason’s attention today? Other than Team Mueller?

I listen to Howard Stern every day. Never miss it. The other ones no. Never listen to any of them.

Explains a lot.

Tiki said:

I haven't listened in many years, but Howard Stern isn't the problem.  
It's this traitor.

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  

This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.

MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 

Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be.