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  • unsung
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    unsung said:
    How long before they come out against creepy joe biden too?

    Or creepy Rand Paul?
    Hmmmmm, I wonder what might make your neighbor blind side tackle you? I wonder what it could be, particularly if your attorney claims it wasn’t a yard dispute and neither side is talking. Hush, I'd like to buy a clue.
    Considering his neighbor is a mentally unstable democrat it isn't a surprise.

    Now back to Al Franken, all of you were screaming for Trump to not get elected due to locker rooom talk, this guy actually did something.  Are you going to demand his resignation or are all of you just full of shit?
  • unsung
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    brianlux said:
    Franken made a bad choice, did a dumb thing, no doubt about it.  Of course. much worse has is and will be going on out there in the world of political and other public figures.  But this isn't a liberal/conservative or a partisan issue.  It's a cultural issue.  

    Bottom line for me is, I vote for the best person or the least offensive person, but either way, I RARELY have looked to politicians as role models.  Really rarely. Really really really rarely. 
    Credibility.  Find some.

    If it were a Republican the mobs would be out here.  You know it.
  • dignin
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    unsung said:
    brianlux said:
    Franken made a bad choice, did a dumb thing, no doubt about it.  Of course. much worse has is and will be going on out there in the world of political and other public figures.  But this isn't a liberal/conservative or a partisan issue.  It's a cultural issue.  

    Bottom line for me is, I vote for the best person or the least offensive person, but either way, I RARELY have looked to politicians as role models.  Really rarely. Really really really rarely. 
    Credibility.  Find some.

    If it were a Republican the mobs would be out here.  You know it.
    Yeah, that thread about Roy Moore and his penchant for teenage girls is really blowing up.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    unsung said:
    How long before they come out against creepy joe biden too?

    Or creepy Rand Paul?
    Hmmmmm, I wonder what might make your neighbor blind side tackle you? I wonder what it could be, particularly if your attorney claims it wasn’t a yard dispute and neither side is talking. Hush, I'd like to buy a clue.
    Considering his neighbor is a mentally unstable democrat it isn't a surprise.

    Now back to Al Franken, all of you were screaming for Trump to not get elected due to locker rooom talk, this guy actually did something.  Are you going to demand his resignation or are all of you just full of shit?
    You know Randy Paul? Not surprising dreaming of Indianer and all. Or is it Kentucky is a lot like ‘bama?

    Being fiscally responsible and for deficit reduction and the like, I’d like to know where that 15 mil went. You and Roy can wait, I guess?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Credibility?

    Bshshahahahahahahaha! Hilarious!
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,703
    unsung said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting if more people come out with allegations against Franken.  

    She accepted his apology and said that she doesn't think it is something that he should resign for.
    Odd, this doesn't sound like she is ok with it.

    http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
    Odd that you aren't referencing the LIVE interview TODAY where she said she accepted his apology and didn't think he should resign.

    Educate yourself please.
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  • JimmyV
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    We had the local news on last night and they reported Tweeden as saying something like "I accept his apology but, at the same time, he could have apologized long before this." Haven't seen that reported anywhere else though so it could be wrong.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,703
    unsung said:
    brianlux said:
    Franken made a bad choice, did a dumb thing, no doubt about it.  Of course. much worse has is and will be going on out there in the world of political and other public figures.  But this isn't a liberal/conservative or a partisan issue.  It's a cultural issue.  

    Bottom line for me is, I vote for the best person or the least offensive person, but either way, I RARELY have looked to politicians as role models.  Really rarely. Really really really rarely. 
    Credibility.  Find some.

    If it were a Republican the mobs would be out here.  You know it.
    This is NOTHING like Roy Moore.  Nothing like Trump's 25 accusers.

    Get over yourself.
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  • josevolution
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    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    unsung said:
    How long before they come out against creepy joe biden too?

    Or creepy Rand Paul?
    Hmmmmm, I wonder what might make your neighbor blind side tackle you? I wonder what it could be, particularly if your attorney claims it wasn’t a yard dispute and neither side is talking. Hush, I'd like to buy a clue.
    Considering his neighbor is a mentally unstable democrat it isn't a surprise.

    Now back to Al Franken, all of you were screaming for Trump to not get elected due to locker rooom talk, this guy actually did something.  Are you going to demand his resignation or are all of you just full of shit?
    Yes he should resign along with Moore and yes the biggest sexual predator of them all the one & only Orange bafoon when you agree with this then I'll take you seriously otherwise your a joke too like all the sympathizers of Moore & Orange bafoon..
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,703
    Yeah I think Franken should offer to resign if tRump does.  
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  • unsung
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Credibility?

    Bshshahahahahahahaha! Hilarious!
    You're right, hypocritical is a better word.
  • PJPOWER
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    edited November 2017
    KC138045 said:



    “What a dumbass frat boy...oh wait, it’s Al Frankten...”
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    If Trump or Weinstein or Moore had reacted to their allegations the way Franken did to his, we'd likely be having a much different conversation in this country. But they didn't. It isn't hypocritical to point that out.
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  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    brianlux said:
    Franken made a bad choice, did a dumb thing, no doubt about it.  Of course. much worse has is and will be going on out there in the world of political and other public figures.  But this isn't a liberal/conservative or a partisan issue.  It's a cultural issue.  

    Bottom line for me is, I vote for the best person or the least offensive person, but either way, I RARELY have looked to politicians as role models.  Really rarely. Really really really rarely. 
    Credibility.  Find some.

    If it were a Republican the mobs would be out here.  You know it.
    Franken has invited an investigation, and has apologized, even though he claims not to remember things the way the accuser did. He owned a mistake, even if it was a misinterpretation or whatever, and will work to make amends.

    Trump and Moore deny all the evidence, smear the accusers, and double down, while being disgusting human beings in numerous other aspects.

    Both sides are not the same. 
  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    I don't understand why all these people wait years and years before bringing this stuff up. What the perp does is not right, but waiting 10, 15, 20, 30, years to call them out.....I really don't know if the press should be using the word "brave" for these people.

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  • tbergs
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    even flow - question mark said:
    I don't understand why all these people wait years and years before bringing this stuff up. What the perp does is not right, but waiting 10, 15, 20, 30, years to call them out.....I really don't know if the press should be using the word "brave" for these people.
    Since you asked https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/since-you-asked-roy-moore-here-is-why-victims-of_us_5a0724e5e4b0cc46c52e6ae6
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    even flow - question mark said:
    I don't understand why all these people wait years and years before bringing this stuff up. What the perp does is not right, but waiting 10, 15, 20, 30, years to call them out.....I really don't know if the press should be using the word "brave" for these people.

    A couple of things to this:

    1. The timing is better for these victims. There is more support lent to these people now versus then. I'm in full support of coming forward with these items whenever the victim is prepared to do so.

    2. This is going to sound contrasting to my previous item. Memories get distorted over time. With no specific case in mind, I get concerned over false allegations.

    Not that memory was a factor in it... I know of a case involving adult friends where 'guilt' led to rape allegations. The rape accusations were dropped and people moved forward, but a man's reputation was damaged- he's been somewhat tainted by people wanting to believe the worst.

    A rape allegation never truly goes away. 
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  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    tbergs said:
    even flow - question mark said:
    I don't understand why all these people wait years and years before bringing this stuff up. What the perp does is not right, but waiting 10, 15, 20, 30, years to call them out.....I really don't know if the press should be using the word "brave" for these people.
    Since you asked https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/since-you-asked-roy-moore-here-is-why-victims-of_us_5a0724e5e4b0cc46c52e6ae6

    Thanks for that. Aside from the child's point of view in the excuses provided, I do not agree with the rest of them. I don't understand why people would stifle that kind of stuff. Maybe it was the way I was raised to call people out on things that don't gel. I am glad these people are speaking up, I just don't understand sitting on it. I guess piling on is easier then getting to the meat of the transgression yourself.

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  • eddiec
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    even flow - question mark said:
    I don't understand why all these people wait years and years before bringing this stuff up. What the perp does is not right, but waiting 10, 15, 20, 30, years to call them out.....I really don't know if the press should be using the word "brave" for these people.
    These women are making accusations against men in powerful positions. It often doesn't end well. It is easy to have your life ruined because of the smear campaign that follows. I guess many felt it wasn't worth it at the time. At least these women finally feel it is safe to come out with the accusations.


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