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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
    Oh, that's true. That is what Mudhoney's problem was in Missoula when they opened for PJ. It was so loud that the sound waves were literally making people feel sick. Many people said that if it had gone on any longer they would have started to panic and been forced to walk out of the show. I also found Judas Priest to be borderline painful, to the point where I couldn't even focus on anything - I don't remember much of anything they did on stage because I was too overwhelmed by the loudness. I thought you meant sound quality, not loudness.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
    Oh, that's true. That is what Mudhoney's problem was in Missoula when they opened for PJ. It was so loud that the sound waves were literally making people feel sick. Many people said that if it had gone on any longer they would have started to panic and been forced to walk out of the show. I also found Judas Priest to be borderline painful, to the point where I couldn't even focus on anything - I don't remember much of anything they did on stage because I was too overwhelmed by the loudness. I thought you meant sound quality, not loudness.
    kind of the whole package. if you are talking strictly sound quality, as long as it isn't shit, then yes, I agree, feel trumps sound. 
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  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    I was on the rail at MSG.  After 2 songs of Royal Blood, I left.  The bass was vibrating my ears and my stomach.  It was terrible. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    CopperTom said:
    I was on the rail at MSG.  After 2 songs of Royal Blood, I left.  The bass was vibrating my ears and my stomach.  It was terrible. 
    Ear plugs...  Ever since I saw Dillinger Escape Plan last year my ears have not been the same.  I'm always packing ear plugs because some bands only know how to play at 11.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Remember, all the bands are wearing ear plugs.    I don't need them for Pearl Jam but definitely for QOTSA.  A lot of people were wearing them at QOTSA. I think people are catching on that you can damage your hearing at these shows. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    bootlegger10 said:
    Remember, all the bands are wearing ear plugs.    I don't need them for Pearl Jam but definitely for QOTSA.  A lot of people were wearing them at QOTSA. I think people are catching on that you can damage your hearing at these shows. 
    Hearing protection is a must. 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    http://www.decibelcar.com/menugeneric/87.html

    Fun list of the effects of varying volume levels.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    PJ_Soul said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Gosh, you guys are making me worry about their show not being very good. :frowning: Few things are worse than a club/theatre band playing an arena. Mudhoney hammered and clashed and bashed and horribled that lesson into me some time ago, lol.

    I think we all prefer club shows.   If Pearl Jam played club shows for 10 years and then graduated to arenas we would all have the same fear that it wouldn't translate as well in an arena.  PJ were big from the beginning so we never really got used to them in small venues.   QOTSA is a 5 piece with a huge sound so I can't imagine they would be terrible in an arena. 
    That's true I guess.
    I like club shows when the band plays a club best. But I don't think every band is better in a club. I think Pearl Jam excels in arenas. That is where they are BEST. I would not want PJ to be demoted to being a club/theatre band because they are best at getting the most energy out of an arena. And I would be stoked to see them in a really small venue for the novelty of it, but I still don't consider it my venue of choice for PJ. I understand why they went acoustic for Benny Hall, and thank goodness they did. Any other small venue examples for PJ outside of their first 6 months or whatever? I saw them in Missoula - that was around 6000 or 7000 or something, and I think that is about as small as they ought to go normally. I guess I kind of assumed the same would be true of QOTSA. I suppose I will find out how they do in an arena in the few months!
    I saw Pearl Jam do one bar show.  The Commodore in Vancouver in 2000.  Holds about 1000 people.   It was pretty cool seeing them in a bar, and the show was good, but it doesn't crack my top concert list.     If you get towards the front of bigger venues, you still see pretty good, but the energy of 20000 or 40000 people is amazing.  I'll complain about stadium shows, but if you're at the front of a stadium show, its amazing :)
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Talk about Kyuss, Them Crooked Vultures, Eagles of Death Metal or any other related QOTSA related band......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Feet Don't Fail Me Now is just phenomenal.  Can't drive in the car more than 10 minutes without turning up this song to 11.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    edited October 2017
    I was thinking today, how amazing the last six songs in Portland were: 

    I Appear Missing 
    Villians of Circumstance
    Little Sister 
    Sick Sick Sick 
    Go With the Flow 
    Encore: Song For The Dead

    The band seemed to hit another gear during I Appear Missing, and never looked back. Despite Josh hurting his leg, the band really brought the house down in the back end of that night. Portland was an awesome awesome show
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
    To anyone on here, I can't recommend enough having a set of musician's earplugs made. Mine were made in Toronto at a place called Listen Up for about $250. Best money I've ever spent - I use them at every concert (and many other loud events since I have noise-induced tinnitus), and everything just gets quieter (and not worse in quality unlike those piece of crap foam or plastic plugs).
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    benjs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
    To anyone on here, I can't recommend enough having a set of musician's earplugs made. Mine were made in Toronto at a place called Listen Up for about $250. Best money I've ever spent - I use them at every concert (and many other loud events since I have noise-induced tinnitus), and everything just gets quieter (and not worse in quality unlike those piece of crap foam or plastic plugs).
    What’s the downside to the foam ear plugs? 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Merkin Baller said:
    benjs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
    To anyone on here, I can't recommend enough having a set of musician's earplugs made. Mine were made in Toronto at a place called Listen Up for about $250. Best money I've ever spent - I use them at every concert (and many other loud events since I have noise-induced tinnitus), and everything just gets quieter (and not worse in quality unlike those piece of crap foam or plastic plugs).
    What’s the downside to the foam ear plugs? 
    Muffled sound, uneven volume reduction across frequency, discomfort after extended use because they are generically shaped rather than for your own ears, designed for single (or minimal) use, to list a few.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    benjs said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    benjs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'd be interested in the sound in an arena.  Their music is louder than most and I wonder if the sound would actually be better in an arena.   Has anyone done both on this tour?
    I saw Queens open for NIN in an arena, and the sound was infinitely better than every other time I saw them in a theatre. The overall feel wasn't the same, mind you, but the sound was way better. 
    Overall feel trumps sound IMO, but only marginally. Both are so important. Anyway, I think they are using over half the arena in Vancouver, so big floor, and I'm thinking maybe 10,000 tix? That is just a guess though. It even occurred to me that QOTSA might not sell out or at least come close. Huh, I guess I'm out of touch, lol..... Shows with a bunch of empty seats... hmm. I don't think I've ever seen an arena show where that even happened before TBH. I can imagine it isn't so hot as far as vibe goes.
    yes, but when a band like Queens is so fucking loud that it hurts to be there, sound trumps feel. Ministry almost made me, literally, go deaf. My ears were ringing for 5 days after that show. 
    To anyone on here, I can't recommend enough having a set of musician's earplugs made. Mine were made in Toronto at a place called Listen Up for about $250. Best money I've ever spent - I use them at every concert (and many other loud events since I have noise-induced tinnitus), and everything just gets quieter (and not worse in quality unlike those piece of crap foam or plastic plugs).
    What’s the downside to the foam ear plugs? 
    Muffled sound, uneven volume reduction across frequency, discomfort after extended use because they are generically shaped rather than for your own ears, designed for single (or minimal) use, to list a few.
    Cool, I use them on the reg as I get them free from work. I was wondering if there were any physical downsides besides the sound quality. I don’t get the discomfort much (I usually only have them in for 2-3 hours). I agree about the muffled sound, but it’s never taken away from my enjoyment of a show. I can still usually hear well enough if the mix is decent. 
  • bramnieskens
    bramnieskens The Netherlands Posts: 101
    Hi guys, 
    does anyone know how to get my hands on one of the limited edition posters at their shows? 
    Just queue up and hope for the best or are there enough posters available? 
    So they make posters for every show they play or just US tours? 
    All tips ‘n tricks are welcome 
    thanks

    2007: Nijmegen
    2010: Nijmegen
    2012: Amsterdam 1
    2013: Los Angeles 1 & 2
    2014: Gold Coast
    2018: Amsterdam 1 & 2, Prague, Krakow, Berlin

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    bramnieskens said:
    Hi guys, 
    does anyone know how to get my hands on one of the limited edition posters at their shows? 
    Just queue up and hope for the best or are there enough posters available? 
    So they make posters for every show they play or just US tours? 
    All tips ‘n tricks are welcome 
    thanks
    If you absolutely want to / have to have it, get there early. That’s really about the only advice worth offering IMO. 

    There seemed to be plenty available up to, and during Royal Blood’s sets in Boston & Portland, but if you REALLY want the poster I wouldn’t leave anything to chance. If it’s an awesome design, it could go pretty quickly. 
  • bramnieskens
    bramnieskens The Netherlands Posts: 101
    Merkin Baller said:
    bramnieskens said:
    Hi guys, 
    does anyone know how to get my hands on one of the limited edition posters at their shows? 
    Just queue up and hope for the best or are there enough posters available? 
    So they make posters for every show they play or just US tours? 
    All tips ‘n tricks are welcome 
    thanks
    If you absolutely want to / have to have it, get there early. That’s really about the only advice worth offering IMO. 

    There seemed to be plenty available up to, and during Royal Blood’s sets in Boston & Portland, but if you REALLY want the poster I wouldn’t leave anything to chance. If it’s an awesome design, it could go pretty quickly. 
    Thank you! 
    Unfortunately we don’t have Royal Blood as a support act here in Amsterdam but I’ll queue up before the doors open and I’ll go back to the pub after I’ve bought my poster ;)
    are there previews available? Or is the artist unknown until the night of the show?

    2007: Nijmegen
    2010: Nijmegen
    2012: Amsterdam 1
    2013: Los Angeles 1 & 2
    2014: Gold Coast
    2018: Amsterdam 1 & 2, Prague, Krakow, Berlin

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    bramnieskens said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    bramnieskens said:
    Hi guys, 
    does anyone know how to get my hands on one of the limited edition posters at their shows? 
    Just queue up and hope for the best or are there enough posters available? 
    So they make posters for every show they play or just US tours? 
    All tips ‘n tricks are welcome 
    thanks
    If you absolutely want to / have to have it, get there early. That’s really about the only advice worth offering IMO. 

    There seemed to be plenty available up to, and during Royal Blood’s sets in Boston & Portland, but if you REALLY want the poster I wouldn’t leave anything to chance. If it’s an awesome design, it could go pretty quickly. 
    Thank you! 
    Unfortunately we don’t have Royal Blood as a support act here in Amsterdam but I’ll queue up before the doors open and I’ll go back to the pub after I’ve bought my poster ;)
    are there previews available? Or is the artist unknown until the night of the show?
    Yes, QOTSA’s Twitter & Facebook pages posted images of each night’s poster early afternoon, day of the show. For example: 

    https://www.facebook.com/QOTSA/posts/10155887345732806

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