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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,339
    Oh, by the way, how’s that brilliantly brilliant wall coming along in all its brilliance?
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  • CM189191
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    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
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    BS44325 said:
    You see this is how it works...

    Clinton and the DNC pay Fusion GPS to make up a dossier based on Russian Intel
    This dossier is then pushed out through the media by the likes of David Corn and Mother Jones
    And the very same day Clinton says this...

    https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/793254986641764356

    That is called collusion with Russia to interfere in an election

    Roger Stone talking to Guccifer 2.0
    Peter Smith working with Russia hackers 
    Trump Data Guru: head of Cambridge Analytica reaching out to Julian Assange 
    Trump himself looking in the camera and asking Russia for help. 
    And Trump Jr. meeting Russian officials to receive dirt on Clinton.


    Trump: actively sought and accepted Russian subversion efforts.  

    DNC: actively investigated and gathered opposition on Trump's Russian subversion efforts.

    You: BOTH SIDES!


    ...get real...
    Money only changed hands on one side. 
    LoL, if you truly believe that, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in.....

    Mueller has numerous money laundering specialists investigating tRump, Jr, manafort, etc. 

    You've been suckered by the tRussia propaganda machine. PT Barnum is embarrassed for you.
    You seem to be so certain as to what Mueller’s specialists are investigating. Like I said follow the evidence where it leads...if it leads to the fact that Manafort was working with the Podesta group on behalf of Russian interets then so be it. If it leads to further investigation of Uranium One so be it. In the last hour Mueller’s own FBI informant was released from his Loretta Lynch enforced NDA to testify before congress. I’m non-partisan when it comes to the draining of the swamp.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/gag-order-lifted-doj-says-informant-can-speak-to-congress-on-uranium-one-russia-bribery-case.html
    You should really read your posts out loud to yourself before you hit send. Mueller is two steps ahead of your what-about-ism. He's going to start rounding up tRump associates. Meanwhile tRumpeters will start complaining about uranium, podesta and Clinton. Mueller's response: I looked into it already, tRump's the useful idiot here. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    I guess the crooked Hillary Dossier isn't helping king kumquat. Even a Fox poll has him way down.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/25/trump-approval-rating-fox-news-244181
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    Quote of the day:

    "People don't understand, I went to an Ivy League college. I was a nice student," Trump told reporters Wednesday. "I did very well. I'm a very intelligent person." Later, pointing to his head, he added: "One of the great memories of all time."
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    tbergs said:
    Quote of the day:

    "People don't understand, I went to an Ivy League college. I was a nice student," Trump told reporters Wednesday. "I did very well. I'm a very intelligent person." Later, pointing to his head, he added: "One of the great memories of all time."
    71 and still taking about where he went to college. What a guy!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    What Trump or BS or JC won’t tell you.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/25/poll-donald-trump-under-water-indiana/797998001/

    Hence the flurry of brilliance and not the ethical brilliance of “draining the swamp.”
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  • brianlux
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    BS44325 said:
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    Kat said:
    I feel like the dossier was likely shopped around after the GOP exit. They had the info, why not find a new place to sell the research.
    What you “feel” is incorrect. Steele was hired by Fusion AFTER the DNC/Clinton began funding. Sorry.
    WHOA!  A little off topic, but everything I learned and later taught in human serves cringes at the idea of telling someone their feeling are "incorrect.  OUCH!
    Yes. Many are teaching the concept of subordinating “facts” to “feelings”. It certainly is a massive problem in the education system. I teach the exact opposite which is that feelings are irrelevant to the facts. No safe spaces. Your feelings shall not be spared. Ouch.
    Subordinating facts to feeling has zero to do with what I was talking about.  Feeling have nothing to do with facts.   

    First though, let's clarify what we both mean by "feelings".  To my understanding feeling are what you feel- pain, happiness, anger, love, ennui, etc.   Some people, however, use the word "feeling" as in "belief".  Where I would say, "I believe we are going to have a war any day now," someone else might say, "I feel like we are going to have a war any day now."  The latter us of "feel" is grammatically incorrect though somewhat common in usage.

    So, if you mean that feelings (as in "beliefs") are being substituted for fact you may be right (though it would be more clear to say "beliefs" rather than "feelings").   

    But the things we feel-- pain, anguish, perturbation-- when we feel them, it is a fact that we are feeling them.  (What we do with those feelings is another story.)  And even when we believe someone is feeling something in a way that we don't agree with, I don't believe we have the right to say "I'm sorry, that is an incorrect feeling".  If two people react to a situation with different feelings, as a general rule, there's no reason to assume either one or both of those feelings is incorrect.  You feel what you feel, I feel what I feel. 

    Assuming we agree that feelings are only those things we feel, I don't believe a feeling can be incorrect and in fact, I would say it is inappropriate to tell another person that what feel is incorrect. 

    Now of course in what Kat said, she used the word feel to mean "believe" (no worries, Kat, we know what you mean.  So that might make all I've said about fee/believe irrelevant, haha! 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I have a feeling, a feeling deep inside, that Trump’s the swamp that needs a draining from way inside, I got a feeling, a feeling Trump don’t feel, oh yea, I got a feeling......
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  • brianlux
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I have a feeling, a feeling deep inside, that Trump’s the swamp that needs a draining from way inside, I got a feeling, a feeling Trump don’t feel, oh yea, I got a feeling......
    All the pedantic bullshit aside, I can dig that.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Let's also be objective and acknowledge BS for doing about as well as someone might do defending Trump.

    Don't get me wrong... I think Trump is a corn riddled turd and I don't necessarily agree with him... but BS has done a good job with a challenging situation- standing up to popular opinion in this forum. 

    His articulation on the matter is far better than "Yee haw"... "Git 'r done"... and "I reckon he's gunna make 'Murica great again"... and "Heil Hitler"... that stand as the most common supporters' expressions of support.

    With that said... I think he will have crow to eat at some point. I'm hoping sooner than later. The Trump family are insects. Seeing them on every homepage and news scroll is nauseating.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    had a dream last night that Donald was kidnapped and hung in public by a crane. a few friends and I had heard about it prior to, got beer, and watched it from a balcony of a friend's close by. 

    that settles it: no more Homeland and McDonald's that close to bedtime. 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Was it oppo research by DNC or an attempt by the FBI/Comey to get the FISA warrant approved to spy on Trump campaign?
    Remember the first warrant was denied, FISA warrants are only denied when the subject has no pulse.
    "By comparison, since 1979 to date, the court has approved 40,117 warrants but only rejected 21 requests. That's a rejection rate of 0.052 percent."
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    Was it oppo research by DNC or an attempt by the FBI/Comey to get the FISA warrant approved to spy on Trump campaign?
    Remember the first warrant was denied, FISA warrants are only denied when the subject has no pulse.
    "By comparison, since 1979 to date, the court has approved 40,117 warrants but only rejected 21 requests. That's a rejection rate of 0.052 percent."
    Or a foreign intelligence service picking up Russian oligarchs and trump campaign officials colluding to throw an election and passing the information on to US intelligence?
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  • PJPOWER
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    “A Facebook page linked to Russia helped organize anti-Trump rallies in Charlotte and New York.”
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryancbrooks/this-russian-campaign-turned-against-trump-in-the-days?utm_term=.qoy3x4adx#.kmV5Z6BoZ

    Remind me again who the Russians are fooling?
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Let's also be objective and acknowledge BS for doing about as well as someone might do defending Trump.

    Don't get me wrong... I think Trump is a corn riddled turd and I don't necessarily agree with him... but BS has done a good job with a challenging situation- standing up to popular opinion in this forum. 

    His articulation on the matter is far better than "Yee haw"... "Git 'r done"... and "I reckon he's gunna make 'Murica great again"... and "Heil Hitler"... that stand as the most common supporters' expressions of support.

    With that said... I think he will have crow to eat at some point. I'm hoping sooner than later. The Trump family are insects. Seeing them on every homepage and news scroll is nauseating.
    I actually acknowledged that pages and pages ago. but I still don't believe he's defending trump. I believe what he's doing is highlighting how and why Trump happened, and that's it's not all the fault of the Trump voter. the harder the pendulum swings one way, it sways equally as hard on the way back. 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Let's also be objective and acknowledge BS for doing about as well as someone might do defending Trump.

    Don't get me wrong... I think Trump is a corn riddled turd and I don't necessarily agree with him... but BS has done a good job with a challenging situation- standing up to popular opinion in this forum. 

    His articulation on the matter is far better than "Yee haw"... "Git 'r done"... and "I reckon he's gunna make 'Murica great again"... and "Heil Hitler"... that stand as the most common supporters' expressions of support.

    With that said... I think he will have crow to eat at some point. I'm hoping sooner than later. The Trump family are insects. Seeing them on every homepage and news scroll is nauseating.
    I actually acknowledged that pages and pages ago. but I still don't believe he's defending trump. I believe what he's doing is highlighting how and why Trump happened, and that's it's not all the fault of the Trump voter. the harder the pendulum swings one way, it sways equally as hard on the way back. 

    You are correct. I didn't quite know how to frame it... so I got lazy and said 'defending'.
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  • CM189191
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    PJPOWER said:
    “A Facebook page linked to Russia helped organize anti-Trump rallies in Charlotte and New York.”
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryancbrooks/this-russian-campaign-turned-against-trump-in-the-days?utm_term=.qoy3x4adx#.kmV5Z6BoZ

    Remind me again who the Russians are fooling?
    you really don't understand how russian propaganda works, do you? 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “A Facebook page linked to Russia helped organize anti-Trump rallies in Charlotte and New York.”
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryancbrooks/this-russian-campaign-turned-against-trump-in-the-days?utm_term=.qoy3x4adx#.kmV5Z6BoZ

    Remind me again who the Russians are fooling?
    you really don't understand how russian propaganda works, do you? 
    Evidently it starts with buying Hillary Clinton.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,339
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “A Facebook page linked to Russia helped organize anti-Trump rallies in Charlotte and New York.”
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryancbrooks/this-russian-campaign-turned-against-trump-in-the-days?utm_term=.qoy3x4adx#.kmV5Z6BoZ

    Remind me again who the Russians are fooling?
    you really don't understand how russian propaganda works, do you? 
    Evidently it starts with buying Hillary Clinton.
    7Xs X 4Xs + recusal + non-implemented Russian sanctions + “I don’t know any Russians” + “nothing to hide” = impeachment. That and follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape.
     
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