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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,792
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
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  • The Juggler
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    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.

    Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.

    Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.


    And here’s the thing, why would a campaign hire oppo research specifically as it relates to Russia? Because it was “rumored” or “whispered” or because lips were flapping about trump’s sexual preferences while in Moscow for the miss universe pageant? We’re not talking about hookers and blow in Atlantic City for a reason. So Hillary just decides to tell the DNC to get her dirt on trump and Russia, I don’t care, make it up if you have to? Problem for Trump is, you can’t mske this shit up. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.

    Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.


    And here’s the thing, why would a campaign hire oppo research specifically as it relates to Russia? Because it was “rumored” or “whispered” or because lips were flapping about trump’s sexual preferences while in Moscow for the miss universe pageant? We’re not talking about hookers and blow in Atlantic City for a reason. So Hillary just decides to tell the DNC to get her dirt on trump and Russia, I don’t care, make it up if you have to? Problem for Trump is, you can’t mske this shit up. 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.

    Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.


    And here’s the thing, why would a campaign hire oppo research specifically as it relates to Russia? Because it was “rumored” or “whispered” or because lips were flapping about trump’s sexual preferences while in Moscow for the miss universe pageant? We’re not talking about hookers and blow in Atlantic City for a reason. So Hillary just decides to tell the DNC to get her dirt on trump and Russia, I don’t care, make it up if you have to? Problem for Trump is, you can’t mske this shit up. 

    We'll know all this and more as soon as Bobby and his team finish up....
    Exactly.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And we all know it’s not about a PTape.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    edited October 2017
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.

    Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.


    Well right. I mean, building the dossier is basically doing a private investigation into bad shit Trump was doing. I'm not actually sure why anyone is bothered by this, and I know that collusion is not the right term to use. Another false equivalency being built by the right.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    so i've been working in and around the construction industry for the last couple years. I can tell you firsthand, Mexico does indeed send its best. DT does not know what he says.  I wish this racist pig could be made to eat his shit.
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    Mexicanos = Bad
    Murricanos = Good

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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407

    Someone Put Up A Plaque To Mark The Spot Where Trump Bragged About Groping Women


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    stuckinline said:

    Someone Put Up A Plaque To Mark The Spot Where Trump Bragged About Groping Women


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  • josevolution
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    No matter what he does he will be known as president predator , pathological liar , racist , narcissistic but never as a good president or honest president or caring president ! 
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    josevolution said:
    No matter what he does he will be known as president predator , pathological liar , racist , narcissistic but never as a good president or honest president or caring president ! 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,792
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
    No.
    lol, ok. 

    I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton. 
    I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
    I'm not comparing the two things. I'm comparing the reaction that Trump gets for doing things in relation to the reaction others get/would get for doing the same thing. 

    By and large Trump gets what he deserves, but there have been instances where I think "um....that's really not a big deal.....it's only a big deal because it's Trump". 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-responds-to-calif-billionaire-urging-impeachment/ar-AAu77xB?li=BBnb4R7

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    That dossier?   ALL TRUE
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I'd like to remind you all that I was Tiki before all of that shit in Charlottesville went down. 
    I actually changed my name in here (with administrative help) from thetikibomb cause I thought that was too much.

    Charlottesville 2013 was my 5th PJ show, maybe 8 or nine rows up right next to Mikey, and it was amazing.  

    Another reason to impeach that sorry assed "so-called" President?  He's down with the white Supremacists.  He's BARELY a generation and a half down from being a full fledged Nazi, and it turns out that xenophobia and flat out RACISM is hard to flush down the toilet when you're in a hurry.   He's truly dangerous. 

    and the PTAPE too.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    stuckinline said:

    Someone Put Up A Plaque To Mark The Spot Where Trump Bragged About Groping Women


    The only thing that would make this plaque better would be an inverted flag.
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