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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    Why didn't they call a timeout before the fg attempt? They could've had the ball with 40 seconds or so and 2 timeouts. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    edited September 2017
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

    he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

    I can always count on you!
    Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

    he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

    I can always count on you!
    Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

    read the article
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    If Philly had a player with manning's career they'd swap Billy Penn with his statue.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Ugh.  Lions have won 2 road games in 23 years on MNF.  Hope the Giants come back and win, I love messing with my buddy who is a Lions fan.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    How can the let flowers keep playing?!
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.


    far be it from me to disagree with the juggler.

    plenty of mediocre QBs have won SBs but Eli might be the only one with two.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

    he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

    I can always count on you!
    Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

    read the article
    No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

    The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    What in the fuck
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    Marshall almost gives us a big first down. Then he loses it. And it's almost intercepted. Then the Lions come back and run a punt return for a touchdown. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    edited September 2017
    Come on NFL gods. Give us that first down
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    short.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Cliffy6745 said:
    If Philly had a player with manning's career they'd swap Billy Penn with his statue.
    Damn right. Also not the point. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    Should have punted there. Still a lot of time. Have to trust the defense
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

    he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

    I can always count on you!
    Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

    read the article
    No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

    The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.
    Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

    Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.


    far be it from me to disagree with the juggler.

    plenty of mediocre QBs have won SBs but Eli might be the only one with two.
    He is the only one with two. That's why he's so intriguing to me. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited September 2017
    igotid88 said:
    Come on NFL gods. Give us that first down
    Fuck this. You're team has gotten plenty of help from the "NFL Gods" over the years. You're asking them to help you in a week 2 game against the Lions now? Ha...the hell??


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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:

    I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

    Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

    Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

    Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

    The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

    he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

    I can always count on you!
    Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

    read the article
    No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

    The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.
    Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

    Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

    halifax dreams of being eiffel towered by tom brady and big sloppi.

    igot has the same dream, but with eli and donnie baseball.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    Eli has been doing his job. His receivers can't hold on to the ball
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    No bueno.

    Next week I'll be walking a top 3 golf course in the world rather than watching this slop 

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