New York Giants Official Thread

igotid88

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

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igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

there are a lot of factors that go into it. Receivers catching/dropping balls. Running backs making plays. Defenses playing well. Tipped passes getting intercepted or falling on the floor. 

igotid88

Looks like we're gonna go 0-4 to start. We're not beating Tampa and Philly

igotid88

Giants should ask the NFL to not let them play MNF or SNF games for awhile

Cliffy6745

igotid88 said:

Giants should ask the NFL to not let them play MNF or SNF games for awhile

I fucking hate these prime time games. Fucks up my sleep 

igotid88

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

Giants should ask the NFL to not let them play MNF or SNF games for awhile

I fucking hate these prime time games. Fucks up my sleep 

More for the Giants record in these games than how late they are

The Juggler

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

there are a lot of factors that go into it. Receivers catching/dropping balls. Running backs making plays. Defenses playing well. Tipped passes getting intercepted or falling on the floor. 

Are you his agent?

igotid88

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

there are a lot of factors that go into it. Receivers catching/dropping balls. Running backs making plays. Defenses playing well. Tipped passes getting intercepted or falling on the floor. 

Are you his agent?

No. Just watched a lot of the games. Are you blaming Eli for tonight's game? 

igotid88

6 things that hurt us. The interception that led to a touchdown. Not calling a timeout before the field goal attempt at the half. Marshall dropping what would have been a huge first down. Offensive line sucks again. Defense did not play well enough. And special teams giving up a touchdown on the punt return.

igotid88

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

there are a lot of factors that go into it. Receivers catching/dropping balls. Running backs making plays. Defenses playing well. Tipped passes getting intercepted or falling on the floor. 

Are you his agent?

If Eli is your team's quarterback in the Super Bowl against the Pats. You guys would have won.

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

Giants should ask the NFL to not let them play MNF or SNF games for awhile

I fucking hate these prime time games. Fucks up my sleep 

move west.

Wobbie

igotid88 said:

6 things that hurt us. The interception that led to a touchdown. Not calling a timeout before the field goal attempt at the half. Marshall dropping what would have been a huge first down. Offensive line sucks again. Defense did not play well enough. And special teams giving up a touchdown on the punt return.

that's it?

if your aunt harriet had balls, she'd be your uncle harry.

igotid88

https://twitter.com/MattHarmon_BYB/status/909983830320201728

igotid88

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:

6 things that hurt us. The interception that led to a touchdown. Not calling a timeout before the field goal attempt at the half. Marshall dropping what would have been a huge first down. Offensive line sucks again. Defense did not play well enough. And special teams giving up a touchdown on the punt return.

that's it?

if your aunt harriet had balls, she'd be your uncle harry.

obviously the most important was/is the offensive line. But any of those other things don't happen. We have a better shot

igotid88

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:

6 things that hurt us. The interception that led to a touchdown. Not calling a timeout before the field goal attempt at the half. Marshall dropping what would have been a huge first down. Offensive line sucks again. Defense did not play well enough. And special teams giving up a touchdown on the punt return.

that's it?

if your aunt harriet had balls, she'd be your uncle harry.

that's how it usually works. Unless Harry always felt like Harriet all his/her life

igotid88

https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/909975556837519360

Wobbie

love ya, igot!

hate your team.

igotid88

Marshall needs to get his shit together and come to play next week. 

igotid88

Eli with a 72% completion with a bad offensive line 

igotid88

I put the over/under of the Eagles sacking Eli at 10

igotid88

https://twitter.com/SI_ExtraMustard/status/909987851068231680