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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    benjs said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Nice post above Benjs
    I was wrong, I just scrolled down a little and the source on the graph was there.
    The reason I went off on it was because I was wondering why people weren't agreeing that it was just numbers and lines with no examples or a source. I see it now as I only looked at it once initially.
    So yes Benjs thanks for that and I still think that even with the source that the pay inequity is not as large as some people make it out to be.

    On what grounds would you like to question the data above?
    As a layperson I don't necessarily understand
    You could have stopped right there.

    Census collects data a number of ways, not just phone calls. Including door-to-door visits, industrial classifications, and state tax & finance records.

    Giving false data is just another example of how you are an outlier that should be thrown out from the data set.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,435
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    benjs said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Nice post above Benjs
    I was wrong, I just scrolled down a little and the source on the graph was there.
    The reason I went off on it was because I was wondering why people weren't agreeing that it was just numbers and lines with no examples or a source. I see it now as I only looked at it once initially.
    So yes Benjs thanks for that and I still think that even with the source that the pay inequity is not as large as some people make it out to be.

    On what grounds would you like to question the data above?
    On the grounds that your honesty states my basic statistical understanding (several university-level statistics courses for a professional degree in Structural Engineering) tells me that this graph is far more than "dots, lines and statements".


    As a layperson I don't necessarily understand the reasoning of a census especially by phone.
    In fact one let alone many could treat such calls as spam and give skewed results.
    I remember in the day telling telemarketers I was an astronaut and made 35K on my rotary phone.
    Imagine the fun I have now when such a person calls me.
    So I understand the source but I just do not meet or see anyone in the flesh stating that as a female they make less than a male doing the same task.
    Celebs excluded.
    I'd encourage looking through the links posted about data collection and error correction methods used. Some involve math, others are much more straightforward, such as 51,000 of the 95,000 households involving interviews. Many are also asked over the span of four months, given an eight months break, and asked the same questions again. Given the survey is hundreds of questions long, they're able to identify answers which have changed dramatically over this time span, which is used to gauge the reliability of the responses.

    As an aside, I also don't think that anecdotal evidence when told by a victim or witness of an action is above lying, so maybe you should question everything rather than just what's convenient to your arguments.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,983
    Watch Hillary Clinton Make Surprise Appearance at Tribeca Film Festival
    Former Secretary of State talks about efforts made to prevent elephant poaching at 'The Protectors' screening
    http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/watch-hillary-clinton-make-surprise-appearance-at-tribeca-w478326

    A great issue and it reminded me of Raju, the elephant in India who shed tears at being rescued from a horrible existence. He had chains on his ankles that became embedded in his skin and had to be removed. I keep up on his progress...it was such a sad and also happy story. He's doing great now. This movie about the ivory poaching sounds good...again, a great issue to get behind.




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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    I'm not a Hillary Clinton fan but her interview today was great. 

    Makes me wonder what could have been.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh0jorewioc

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,987
    it wouldn't be what it is today, but I imagine just a lot of fake smiles and the same type of rhetoric we get from the right. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,952
    dignin said:
    I'm not a Hillary Clinton fan but her interview today was great. 

    Makes me wonder what could have been.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh0jorewioc

    We probably would be in a position where our politicians just talked a lot, blamed the other party and nothing got done....oh wait.....

    But at least we'd have less tweets, kids could actually learn a bit about real US history if the president decided to speak about it, and...I assuming a bit on this one...there would have been less presidential golf played.  Oh and Bill Clinton would be getting BJs in the white house instead of at Ihop.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    does Hillary know she may have something to do with this?
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_EUROPE_MIGRANTS_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-07-03-07-30-35
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://www.axios.com/hillary-on-trump-debate-back-up-you-creep-2476103600.html

    If she did this maybe I would have reconsidered my vote, this would have been great, I may have looked past all her flaws and crookedness.

    Her question to America during the second debate: "Well, what would you do? Do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly invading your space? Or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly: 'Back up you creep, get away from me. I know you love to intimidate women, but you can't intimidate me, so back up.'"

    Hilliary reflects on her interactions with Trump and admits she should have said or done something instead of nothing and so did Comey admit the same. Is there anyone else Im forgetting?

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    https://www.axios.com/hillary-on-trump-debate-back-up-you-creep-2476103600.html

    If she did this maybe I would have reconsidered my vote, this would have been great, I may have looked past all her flaws and crookedness.

    Her question to America during the second debate: "Well, what would you do? Do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly invading your space? Or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly: 'Back up you creep, get away from me. I know you love to intimidate women, but you can't intimidate me, so back up.'"

    Hilliary reflects on her interactions with Trump and admits she should have said or done something instead of nothing and so did Comey admit the same. Is there anyone else Im forgetting?


    http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/08/hillary-clinton-my-skin-crawled-as-donald-trump-stalked-me-on-debate-stage/

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Ironic, isn’t it? A young woman who went to Yale Law and as a staffer, contributed to the resignation of Nixon. Ironic, isn’t it, that this same woman would give her life to bettering the average person, not by glad handing or smarmy smoke and mirror rhetoric like trickle down but with policy, proposals, legislation, down in the trenches, support of laws that help the unwashed masses. Ironic, isn’t it, that a woman who rose to such lofty heights, rising from forcing a man from office for clear violations of law, impeachable, released 20 years of tax returns for public scrutiny. Ironic, isn’t it, that Hillary was well known on the Hill for being well prepared, having done her homework, knew the issues inside and out, and was likeable. Ironic isn’t it, that after 30 years of investigation and scrutiny and only to be cheated out of what was deservedly hers, by almost 3 million votes, she’ll witness another disgraceful failure by a man who thought he knew better? Ironic, isn’t it, that her bookends to an illustrious career of serving the common good ends with Team Trump Treason? Over email and greed? Ironic, isn’t it?
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