Hillary knows

unsung

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

How do they get so rich by serving the public?

Not that we haven't been over this a ton of times, but it is public knowledge that the Clintons got so rich namely via speaking engagements and book deals. The rest just through plain old investments (probably very well-informed ones, obviously). Their personal finances have been gone through with a fine toothed comb and everything seems on the up and up. Their wealth is the opposite of a mystery.

So why post-election hasn't she given a $200k speech?

Why has the Clinton Foundation shut down?

unsung

Halifax2TheMax said:

rssesq said:

vetted by her own state department? Perhaps that's why she won the election. Oh my bad, she got her ass handed to her

Yea, by almost 3 million votes. Now, about that widespread 3-5 million voter fraud? How's that investigation progressing?

Irrelevant. California doesn't determine the direction of the entire country.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

rssesq said:

vetted by her own state department? Perhaps that's why she won the election. Oh my bad, she got her ass handed to her

Yea, by almost 3 million votes. Now, about that widespread 3-5 million voter fraud? How's that investigation progressing?

Irrelevant. California doesn't determine the direction of the entire country.

Sounds like a bootlicking, statist answer.

rssesq

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

rssesq said:

vetted by her own state department? Perhaps that's why she won the election. Oh my bad, she got her ass handed to her

Yea, by almost 3 million votes. Now, about that widespread 3-5 million voter fraud? How's that investigation progressing?

Irrelevant. California doesn't determine the direction of the entire country.

Pete Wilson, Gray Davis, Arnold Schwarz@#$%^, Jerry Brown

wut a list.

rssesq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrwgdhBEwvE

Halifax2TheMax

Maybe Hillary wrote the piece for Wikipedia?

According to the Foundation's website, neither Bill Clinton nor his daughter, Chelsea Clinton (both are members of the governing board), draws any salary or receives any income from the Foundation. When Hillary Clinton was a board member she, too, received no income from the Foundation.[10]

In March 2015, Reuters reported that the Clinton Health Access Initiative had failed to publish all of its donors, and to let the State Department review all of its donations from foreign governments after it was spun out of the Clinton Foundation in 2010.[84] In April 2015, the New York Times reported that when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, the State Department had approved a deal to sell American uranium to a Russian state-owned enterprise Uranium One whose chairman had donated to the Clinton Foundation, and that Clinton had failed to disclose such donations.[85] The State Department "was one of nine government agencies, not to mention independent federal and state nuclear regulators, that had to sign off on the deal."[86] FactCheck.org notes that there is "no evidence" that the donations influenced Clinton’s official actions or that she was involved in the State Department's decision to approve the deal,[87] and PolitiFact concluded that any "suggestion of a quid pro quo is unsubstantiated."[86]

Or Unsung's super duper extra secret government contacts provide him with information not available to us bootlicking statists?

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

rssesq said:

vetted by her own state department? Perhaps that's why she won the election. Oh my bad, she got her ass handed to her

Yea, by almost 3 million votes. Now, about that widespread 3-5 million voter fraud? How's that investigation progressing?

Irrelevant. California doesn't determine the direction of the entire country.

I thought it was New Hampshire? Bus loads from Massachusetts? Care to update us on the investigation of the widespread voter fraud?

Halifax2TheMax

In case you have trouble falling asleep or want to feel insignificant in your contributions to your community and the world:

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/311/580/2013-311580204-0b0083da-9.pdf

Halifax2TheMax

Oh, and an incorrect answer on any of the questions therein can result in a Felony conviction. So, Is Hillary, Bill or Chelsea in prison yet?

PJ_Soul

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

How do they get so rich by serving the public?

Not that we haven't been over this a ton of times, but it is public knowledge that the Clintons got so rich namely via speaking engagements and book deals. The rest just through plain old investments (probably very well-informed ones, obviously). Their personal finances have been gone through with a fine toothed comb and everything seems on the up and up. Their wealth is the opposite of a mystery.

So why post-election hasn't she given a $200k speech?

Why has the Clinton Foundation shut down?

The Clinton Foundation has not shut down, and the last speech she did was 5 days ago and has several others already booked for April and beyond. Where in the fuck are you getting your information??

rssesq

she got sum free time

Kat

Disinformation, and it's not ok here.

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

I find it amusing that when the left stoops to the lower depths that the right generally practices, it's suddenly an outrage. Spare me the faux outrage. Lee Atwater and the politics of personal destruction is to blame. I've listened to eight years of personal attacks on Obama and Hillary, many of them delivered by Trump. Folks who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Shart he blows!

speaking as a lefty, but a lefty who can be objective about this: it's an outrage because the left seems to pride itself on being morally superior, so when they do that, they go against the very thing they profess to be.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Maxine Waters is an idiot.

John McCain is an idiot.

That isn't sexist or racist. They are just useless.

Snowflake in Chief

I feel like that was just more evidence of his mental problems. Talk about a weird little moment. I'd feel sorry for Pence if he wasn't such a shit-eating homophobe.

A friend of mine is a lawyer for the elderly. All the "idiosyncrasies" (for lack of better word) that Trump exhibits are the exact same signs his clients experience in the early stages of dementia.

Yup. I worked with someone who was going through this (he recently finally retired). A lot of the what I saw with my colleague are things I see with Trump. My colleague's ego/pride made it so he was in constant damage control mode as well as in denial, making excuses for his slip ups, his nonsensical emails, blaming mistakes and misunderstandings on other people, losing his temper, intolerance for things that should be fine, getting overly defensive, etc, etc. Very sad. Combine Trump's obvious mental decline with his innate extreme assholeism, all while in the White House, and it's a recipe for disaster.

my sister is like this. she doesn't have dementia. she's a narcissist.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Maxine Waters is an idiot.

John McCain is an idiot.

That isn't sexist or racist. They are just useless.

Snowflake in Chief

I feel like that was just more evidence of his mental problems. Talk about a weird little moment. I'd feel sorry for Pence if he wasn't such a shit-eating homophobe.

A friend of mine is a lawyer for the elderly. All the "idiosyncrasies" (for lack of better word) that Trump exhibits are the exact same signs his clients experience in the early stages of dementia.

Yup. I worked with someone who was going through this (he recently finally retired). A lot of the what I saw with my colleague are things I see with Trump. My colleague's ego/pride made it so he was in constant damage control mode as well as in denial, making excuses for his slip ups, his nonsensical emails, blaming mistakes and misunderstandings on other people, losing his temper, intolerance for things that should be fine, getting overly defensive, etc, etc. Very sad. Combine Trump's obvious mental decline with his innate extreme assholeism, all while in the White House, and it's a recipe for disaster.

my sister is like this. she doesn't have dementia. she's a narcissist.

She is nonsensical and incoherent? Big picture, Trump really does display dementia onset. He is also a raging narcissist, yes, and I can why some might confuse the two things, but I feel like his mental instability is obvious, and many, many experts have said the same, so.... I think he suffers from a profound personality disorder, yes. Much of his behaviour is about that. But I think he ALSO suffers from growing mental instability - the signs can be subtle, but having experienced them before, they are noticeable to me. Now if it's actually dementia or some other disorder, I do not know, and neither does anyone else, since he only submitted a phony account of his health before the election.
(My sister is a narcissist too, btw. It's a bummer, eh?).

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Maxine Waters is an idiot.

John McCain is an idiot.

That isn't sexist or racist. They are just useless.

Snowflake in Chief

I feel like that was just more evidence of his mental problems. Talk about a weird little moment. I'd feel sorry for Pence if he wasn't such a shit-eating homophobe.

A friend of mine is a lawyer for the elderly. All the "idiosyncrasies" (for lack of better word) that Trump exhibits are the exact same signs his clients experience in the early stages of dementia.

Yup. I worked with someone who was going through this (he recently finally retired). A lot of the what I saw with my colleague are things I see with Trump. My colleague's ego/pride made it so he was in constant damage control mode as well as in denial, making excuses for his slip ups, his nonsensical emails, blaming mistakes and misunderstandings on other people, losing his temper, intolerance for things that should be fine, getting overly defensive, etc, etc. Very sad. Combine Trump's obvious mental decline with his innate extreme assholeism, all while in the White House, and it's a recipe for disaster.

my sister is like this. she doesn't have dementia. she's a narcissist.

She is nonsensical and incoherent? Big picture, Trump really does display dementia onset. He is also a raging narcissist, yes, and I can why some might confuse the two things, but I feel like his mental instability is obvious, and many, many experts have said the same, so.... I think he suffers from a profound personality disorder, yes. Much of his behaviour is about that. But I think he ALSO suffers from growing mental instability - the signs can be subtle, but having experienced them before, they are noticeable to me. Now if it's actually dementia or some other disorder, I do not know, and neither does anyone else, since he only submitted a phony account of his health before the election.
(My sister is a narcissist too, btw. It's a bummer, eh?).

no, she is not nonsensical. I don't find him nonsensical. I think he thinks he can say anything and people will believe him, and he doesn't give a shit, or he even believes his own lies because his ego won't let him be wrong.

yes, many "experts" have claimed that, but none of them have examined him personally. big difference when just going off watching someone on tv.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Maxine Waters is an idiot.

John McCain is an idiot.

That isn't sexist or racist. They are just useless.

Snowflake in Chief

I feel like that was just more evidence of his mental problems. Talk about a weird little moment. I'd feel sorry for Pence if he wasn't such a shit-eating homophobe.

A friend of mine is a lawyer for the elderly. All the "idiosyncrasies" (for lack of better word) that Trump exhibits are the exact same signs his clients experience in the early stages of dementia.

Yup. I worked with someone who was going through this (he recently finally retired). A lot of the what I saw with my colleague are things I see with Trump. My colleague's ego/pride made it so he was in constant damage control mode as well as in denial, making excuses for his slip ups, his nonsensical emails, blaming mistakes and misunderstandings on other people, losing his temper, intolerance for things that should be fine, getting overly defensive, etc, etc. Very sad. Combine Trump's obvious mental decline with his innate extreme assholeism, all while in the White House, and it's a recipe for disaster.

my sister is like this. she doesn't have dementia. she's a narcissist.

She is nonsensical and incoherent? Big picture, Trump really does display dementia onset. He is also a raging narcissist, yes, and I can why some might confuse the two things, but I feel like his mental instability is obvious, and many, many experts have said the same, so.... I think he suffers from a profound personality disorder, yes. Much of his behaviour is about that. But I think he ALSO suffers from growing mental instability - the signs can be subtle, but having experienced them before, they are noticeable to me. Now if it's actually dementia or some other disorder, I do not know, and neither does anyone else, since he only submitted a phony account of his health before the election.
(My sister is a narcissist too, btw. It's a bummer, eh?).

no, she is not nonsensical. I don't find him nonsensical. I think he thinks he can say anything and people will believe him, and he doesn't give a shit, or he even believes his own lies because his ego won't let him be wrong.

yes, many "experts" have claimed that, but none of them have examined him personally. big difference when just going off watching someone on tv.

Have you read the transcripts of his speeches?? Those seem pretty fucking nonsensical and incoherent to me. He can't even form a full sentence most of the time.
I know that they haven't examined him, but with all the evidence put together, I think it's a pretty safe bet, and apparently the experts think so too (and no, not "experts". Just experts, lol - they understand the importance of examinations, but there is no reason to go all or none. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.... Honestly, a lot of the signs seem pretty undeniable. Are you saying that you think he is all there mentally??

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Maxine Waters is an idiot.

John McCain is an idiot.

That isn't sexist or racist. They are just useless.

Snowflake in Chief

I feel like that was just more evidence of his mental problems. Talk about a weird little moment. I'd feel sorry for Pence if he wasn't such a shit-eating homophobe.

A friend of mine is a lawyer for the elderly. All the "idiosyncrasies" (for lack of better word) that Trump exhibits are the exact same signs his clients experience in the early stages of dementia.

Yup. I worked with someone who was going through this (he recently finally retired). A lot of the what I saw with my colleague are things I see with Trump. My colleague's ego/pride made it so he was in constant damage control mode as well as in denial, making excuses for his slip ups, his nonsensical emails, blaming mistakes and misunderstandings on other people, losing his temper, intolerance for things that should be fine, getting overly defensive, etc, etc. Very sad. Combine Trump's obvious mental decline with his innate extreme assholeism, all while in the White House, and it's a recipe for disaster.

my sister is like this. she doesn't have dementia. she's a narcissist.

She is nonsensical and incoherent? Big picture, Trump really does display dementia onset. He is also a raging narcissist, yes, and I can why some might confuse the two things, but I feel like his mental instability is obvious, and many, many experts have said the same, so.... I think he suffers from a profound personality disorder, yes. Much of his behaviour is about that. But I think he ALSO suffers from growing mental instability - the signs can be subtle, but having experienced them before, they are noticeable to me. Now if it's actually dementia or some other disorder, I do not know, and neither does anyone else, since he only submitted a phony account of his health before the election.
(My sister is a narcissist too, btw. It's a bummer, eh?).

no, she is not nonsensical. I don't find him nonsensical. I think he thinks he can say anything and people will believe him, and he doesn't give a shit, or he even believes his own lies because his ego won't let him be wrong.

yes, many "experts" have claimed that, but none of them have examined him personally. big difference when just going off watching someone on tv.

Have you read the transcripts of his speeches?? Those seem pretty fucking nonsensical and incoherent to me. He can't even form a full sentence most of the time.
I know that they haven't examined him, but with all the evidence put together, I think it's a pretty safe bet, and apparently the experts think so too (and no, not "experts". Just experts, lol - they understand the importance of examinations, but there is no reason to go all or none. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.... Honestly, a lot of the signs seem pretty undeniable. Are you saying that you think he is all there mentally??

No, I haven't read the transcripts to his speeches. But watching his speeches, he's not a good public speaker. that's obvious. he speaks on the fly based on the reactions he gets from the crowd. Nothing about him is conventional, but I don't think you can jump from that to "out of his mind". I'm saying it's impossible to know by just watching a guy on a podium. diagnoses like that take many person-to-person conversations and tests. at this point, all they can do is speculate. and consider that many a leader that has not been liked has been smeared with the "mentally unstable" tag. Maybe these folks are non-partisan, maybe they aren't. who knows. I don't know anything about dementia and the signs of it. So I can't comment on that.

I put experts in quotations because I don't think many "experts" worth their salt would make a comment like that without doing actual in-person testing on the guy.

oftenreading

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Maxine Waters is an idiot.

John McCain is an idiot.

That isn't sexist or racist. They are just useless.

Snowflake in Chief

I feel like that was just more evidence of his mental problems. Talk about a weird little moment. I'd feel sorry for Pence if he wasn't such a shit-eating homophobe.

A friend of mine is a lawyer for the elderly. All the "idiosyncrasies" (for lack of better word) that Trump exhibits are the exact same signs his clients experience in the early stages of dementia.

Yup. I worked with someone who was going through this (he recently finally retired). A lot of the what I saw with my colleague are things I see with Trump. My colleague's ego/pride made it so he was in constant damage control mode as well as in denial, making excuses for his slip ups, his nonsensical emails, blaming mistakes and misunderstandings on other people, losing his temper, intolerance for things that should be fine, getting overly defensive, etc, etc. Very sad. Combine Trump's obvious mental decline with his innate extreme assholeism, all while in the White House, and it's a recipe for disaster.

my sister is like this. she doesn't have dementia. she's a narcissist.

She is nonsensical and incoherent? Big picture, Trump really does display dementia onset. He is also a raging narcissist, yes, and I can why some might confuse the two things, but I feel like his mental instability is obvious, and many, many experts have said the same, so.... I think he suffers from a profound personality disorder, yes. Much of his behaviour is about that. But I think he ALSO suffers from growing mental instability - the signs can be subtle, but having experienced them before, they are noticeable to me. Now if it's actually dementia or some other disorder, I do not know, and neither does anyone else, since he only submitted a phony account of his health before the election.
(My sister is a narcissist too, btw. It's a bummer, eh?).

no, she is not nonsensical. I don't find him nonsensical. I think he thinks he can say anything and people will believe him, and he doesn't give a shit, or he even believes his own lies because his ego won't let him be wrong.

yes, many "experts" have claimed that, but none of them have examined him personally. big difference when just going off watching someone on tv.

Have you read the transcripts of his speeches?? Those seem pretty fucking nonsensical and incoherent to me. He can't even form a full sentence most of the time.
I know that they haven't examined him, but with all the evidence put together, I think it's a pretty safe bet, and apparently the experts think so too (and no, not "experts". Just experts, lol - they understand the importance of examinations, but there is no reason to go all or none. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.... Honestly, a lot of the signs seem pretty undeniable. Are you saying that you think he is all there mentally??

No, I haven't read the transcripts to his speeches. But watching his speeches, he's not a good public speaker. that's obvious. he speaks on the fly based on the reactions he gets from the crowd. Nothing about him is conventional, but I don't think you can jump from that to "out of his mind". I'm saying it's impossible to know by just watching a guy on a podium. diagnoses like that take many person-to-person conversations and tests. at this point, all they can do is speculate. and consider that many a leader that has not been liked has been smeared with the "mentally unstable" tag. Maybe these folks are non-partisan, maybe they aren't. who knows. I don't know anything about dementia and the signs of it. So I can't comment on that.

I put experts in quotations because I don't think many "experts" worth their salt would make a comment like that without doing actual in-person testing on the guy.

Any expert qualified to make a diagnosis should already be aware that making a diagnosis on a public figure based only on public statements and who you haven't personally examined contravenes accepted medical ethics; specifically, the so-called Goldwater Rule. There will always be someone who believes that their personal ethics demand that they speak up. Fine, speak up and raise your concerns. Just don't pretend you can make a diagnosis.

rssesq

it would be akin to someone saying this one is bat shit crazy because of ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orYcAiFqknU