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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,255
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    Some can't be woman enough to be their man. It's a Trump thing.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    Or they ain't getting any?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited August 2017
    Dem Party Platform

    vote our corporate servant devoid of principles and policies candidate or vote for them Republican/Trump Supporting/White Supremacist/Nazis

    brilliant strategy, even I may cast a vote for Mama June instead of the Republican/Nazi
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,255
    JC29856 said:
    Dem Party Platform

    vote our corporate servant devoid of principles and policies candidate or vote for them Republican/Trump Supporting/White Supremacist/Nazis

    brilliant strategy, even I may cast a vote for Mama June instead of the Republican/Nazi
    Yea, sure you will.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    In particular  black female democrats elected to the senate
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Bentleyspop said:
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    In particular  black female democrats elected to the senate
    Good point. I think you're on to something.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited August 2017
    Astroturf and campaign advertising

    Ignoring what democrats (and republicans if you will) actually do for non-whites, and ignoring their sudden outrage over white supremacy, what have they said to actually  help non-whites.
    What have they said about the disease that impacts non whites disproportionately?
    What have they said about the disproportionate incarceration rate of non whites?
    What have they said about the disproportionate number of non white children in poverty?
    What have they said about the abuse of low wage workers here and or around the world?

    Silence speaks louder than words!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    Astroturf and campaign advertising

    Ignoring what democrats (and republicans if you will) actually do for non-whites, and ignoring their sudden outrage over white supremacy, what have they said to help actually non-whites.
    What have they said about the disease that impacts non whites disproportionately?
    What have they said about the disproportionate incarceration rate of non whites?
    What have they said about the disproportionate number of non white children in poverty?
    What have they said about the abuse of low wage workers here and or around the world?

    Silence speaks louder than words!
    Again, nice try. Have you seen the unemployment rate lately? Please point to one accomplishment of Trump and the republican held congress on any one of the concerns, issues rather, that you raised. I'll go make my breakfast.

    Desperado, you've got the weight on your shoulders........
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it. Any real legislation proposed by a democrat won't make it to the floor for a vote. You know this goes right up Mitch McConnell's ass. I wonder if he's contemplating retirement?

    What are republicans doing to fight racism, seeing that they have all three branches of government and could certainly garner democrat support for legitimate, helpful legislation?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,255
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
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  • mrussel1
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    I always knew Corey Booker was a racist...

    JC slept through the part of history when progressives pushed through an entire generation of civil rights acts.  

    Your post is absurd and intended to be provocative as usual.  Unfortunately it is also clumsy  dereft of historical perspective,  and therefore laughable. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,374
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    benjs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
    Why would it be unconstitutional?  There is no protection for monuments in any of the amendments.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,255
    benjs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
    I'm not sure I follow? I was responding to JC's response of Political Campaign 101, as referenced to Booker introducing legislation to remove confederate statues from the capitol building. Without having read the bill, I'll assume it directs the Architect of the Capitol to have them removed, as the Architect is responsible for the care and upkeep as directed by the congress. Please clarify.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422
    mrussel1 said:
    I always knew Corey Booker was a racist...

    JC slept through the part of history when progressives pushed through an entire generation of civil rights acts.  

    Your post is absurd and intended to be provocative as usual.  Unfortunately it is also clumsy  dereft of historical perspective,  and therefore laughable. 
    Oddly enough the post was also missing the the usual blaming of Barack Obama and Kamala Harris
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    This is the typical response (and those like it) when one cannot discuss and address the issue(s) raised. As I have pointed out in the past Democrats are experts at using race and gender as weapons to deflect from real issues. When one cannot address the real issue because any reply would completely lack merit ones simply play "virtual twister" in attempta to misrepresent and/or re-frame the argument(s) issues put forth.
    Let me illustrate:
    In this post I'm asking where do democrats stand on these issues raised? (real issues not statues). I'm not even asking for action, I'm simply asking for words, lip service, the lowest bar to measure one's position on the issues facing non whites.
     
    Ignoring what democrats (and republicans if you will) actually do for non-whites, and ignore their sudden outrage over white supremacy, what have they said to actually help non-whites
    What have they said about the disease that impacts non whites disproportionately?
    What have they said about the disproportionate incarceration rate of non whites?
    What have they said about the disproportionate number of non white children in poverty?
    What have they said about the abuse of low wage workers here and or around the world?
    (are these valid arguments made by non-whites? I certainly think so)

    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism
    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html
    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Reply:I always knew Corey Booker was a racist...
    JC slept through the part of history when progressives pushed through an entire generation of civil rights acts.  
    Your post is absurd and intended to be provocative as usual.  Unfortunately it is also clumsy  dereft of historical perspective,  and therefore laughable. 

    Since there are little if any actions that Democrats have taken to help with racism and the daily struggles that face non whites, Im pointing out this bill that Booker introduced to help deal with racism. (I'm ignoring the fact that seldom if ever at all, are statues the reason or cause of racism, I will admit thou this is the first time I have heard of such a claim, plus that this bill does nothing to help the four issues I raised above) Lets look to the symptoms of real racism not overblown reactions to protests and demonstrations over statues. 

    So what we have in the above reply is either an attempt to use race to deflect from the issues raised because any opposing argument is without merit or its simply ones opinion. Since its silly and pointless to argue someones opinion, we can only argue or discuss the basis on which their opinion is formed. For the sake of argument, lets assume that the post was not an attempt to re-fame or misrepresent and say it was an opinion. So I ask this, ignoring the initial post (for context) leading up to the post that was replied to, how does one conclude or suggest "Corey Booker is/was a racist" by pointing out a bill introduced by Booker? I'm eager to hear the responses!

    I would love nothing more than to discuss where democrats stood on civil rights acts and where they stood against racism and segregation "historically" but before we can do that we need to discuss how we go from A (booker bill) to B (booker is racist), otherwise I'm just signing on for more virtual twister of endless misrepresentations, which I also admit russ is pretty good at(see KKK/funeral).
     
    One more thing I almost forgot, it is entirely possible that one only viewed/read the Booker post and did not view/read my initial post about those four issues raised. Maybe that is the aim, misrepresent and re-frame and hope that others don't read up and view previous posts for perspective, ie, inviting more virtual twister players to further your misrepresentations. 

    Im certain a reply, if anyone replies, will if do exactly what I just mentioned, misrepresent and re-frame the point of this about misrepresenting and re-framing an argument. I'll reiterate it again in bold: how does one conclude or suggest "Corey Booker is/was a racist" by pointing out a bill introduced by Booker?
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    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,374
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    benjs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
    I'm not sure I follow? I was responding to JC's response of Political Campaign 101, as referenced to Booker introducing legislation to remove confederate statues from the capitol building. Without having read the bill, I'll assume it directs the Architect of the Capitol to have them removed, as the Architect is responsible for the care and upkeep as directed by the congress. Please clarify.
    Sorry, I should've been more clear. What I'm wondering is whether a statue representing a movement could be seen as 'expression'. Regardless of the disgusting nature of that movement, the statue itself does not harm people - people misconstrue its existence as freedom to act akin to the Confederate South. 

    As far as JC's statement goes, I think we're in agreement, Halifax. I frankly don't give a shit whether Booker's concern about these statues are out of the goodness of his heart, or to prop up his own name: if I want to make society better by moving in a certain direction, and another person wants to move in that direction for other reasons, the outcome of betterment of society remains, no matter how disingenuous it is. That's of literally no concern to me. 
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