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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    The Dem party.  Do they have a candidate that they think can beat President Trump yet?


  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Dem party.  Do they have a candidate that they think can beat President Trump yet?


    Bob Menendez

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Menendez

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,229
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Dem party.  Do they have a candidate that they think can beat President Trump yet?


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  • JC29856
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    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trump-bent-becoming-tyrant-and-liberals-have-never-looked-more-helpless-stop-him

    Debate over identity politics elides the truth about what really brought us to this precipice.

    And too many of us who know this are clueless about how to stop him, at least partly because we’re obsessed with secondary, almost irrelevant developments. Sometimes it seems as if we’d do anything but confront the most important challenge. Let me try, starting with how liberals have been dodging the full truth.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    what would compel Pelosi to make this statement???

    San Francisco — Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement denouncing the violent protests carried out this weekend in Berkeley, California:

    “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.  The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.

    “In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech.  Non-violence is fundamental to that right.  Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.”

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    what would compel Pelosi to make this statement???

    San Francisco — Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement denouncing the violent protests carried out this weekend in Berkeley, California:

    “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.  The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.

    “In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech.  Non-violence is fundamental to that right.  Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.”

    Human decency? Something Trump doesn't possess.
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  • The Juggler
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    JC29856 said:
    what would compel Pelosi to make this statement???

    San Francisco — Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement denouncing the violent protests carried out this weekend in Berkeley, California:

    “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.  The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.

    “In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech.  Non-violence is fundamental to that right.  Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.”

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    JC29856 said:
    what would compel Pelosi to make this statement???

    San Francisco — Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement denouncing the violent protests carried out this weekend in Berkeley, California:

    “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.  The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.

    “In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech.  Non-violence is fundamental to that right.  Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.”

    Wow, I never thought I would agree with Nancy Pelosi on anything!  If the eclipse and hurricane weren't signs of the apocalypse, this totally is! Lol
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited August 2017
    litmus test

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348651-kamala-harris-announces-she-will-co-sponsor-single-payer-health-insurance

    Kamala Harris announces she will co-sponsor single-payer healthcare


    single payer and Medicare for all are not synonymous!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    JC29856 said:
    litmus test

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348651-kamala-harris-announces-she-will-co-sponsor-single-payer-health-insurance

    Kamala Harris announces she will co-sponsor single-payer healthcare


    single payer and Medicare for all are not synonymous!
    What is antifa's stance on trumpcare?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,229
    The Juggler said:
    JC29856 said:
    litmus test

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348651-kamala-harris-announces-she-will-co-sponsor-single-payer-health-insurance

    Kamala Harris announces she will co-sponsor single-payer healthcare


    single payer and Medicare for all are not synonymous!
    What is antifa's stance on trumpcare?
    3D can't Trumpet Trump so he builds him/herself up by tearing down women and minorities. Sound familiar? Angry white person scared of the change swirling about them. Willing to bet khakis in the closet and tikis in the shed.
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  • JC29856
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    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/

    Senator Kamala Harris said on Wednesday that she will co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders’ anticipated single-payer health care bill. This makes Harris the first Senator to publicly announce support for the Medicare-for-all bill, which Sanders has said he’ll introduce in September. 

    fyi single payer is not the same as Medicare for all
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/

    Senator Kamala Harris said on Wednesday that she will co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders’ anticipated single-payer health care bill. This makes Harris the first Senator to publicly announce support for the Medicare-for-all bill, which Sanders has said he’ll introduce in September. 

    fyi single payer is not the same as Medicare for all
    Too bad Texas declined Medicare expansion.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    JC29856 said:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,559
    Three times a lady
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    California progressives.


    California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to mass protests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.

    They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/06/30/california-single-payer-organizers-are-deceiving-their-supporters-its-time-to-stop/
    California goes national!
    anyone remember how progressive democrats in Cali called for single payer when they knew it wouldn't pass under GOP control?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    spineless sellouts and moral compasses

    https://newrepublic.com/article/143650/killed-single-payer-california

    What Killed Single-Payer In California?

    If single-payer can't pass with Democratic super-majorities in the Golden State, that raises serious questions about any national effort.


    California goes National
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Bernie Sanders Knows His Medicare-For-All Bill Won't Pass. That's Not The Point

    http://www.npr.org/2017/08/11/542676994/bernie-sanders-knows-his-medicare-for-all-bill-wont-pass-thats-not-the-point

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325814-sanders-says-he-will-introduce-medicare-for-all-bill
    "Well, you know, it's a goal. In this Congress, we won't pass it," Welch said after the town hall. "But I think we have to do keep the goal out there, because we need in this country, like any industrialized country, a healthcare system that's affordable, accessible and universal."

    Sound familiar?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Bernie tried this in 2013, no co-sponsors then. It may have had a better chance at passing when Democrats had control over house and Senate for that short four month period under Obama. 

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1782

    "co-sponsors, there are no fu(king co-sponsors"

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