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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    The Obstructionist Democrats have given us (or not fixed) some of the worst trade deals in World History. I am changing that fast!  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-IN-AQBwF0

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Stop defending him.
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  • Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
  • Tiki said:
    dignin said:

    John Oliver: 'Fucking Idiot' Trump Managed To Screw Up Disavowing Nazis

    “Nazis are a lot like cats. If they like you, it’s probably because you’re feeding them.”


    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/john-oliver-trump-nazis_us_599134aee4b090964297f4b0

    He was particularly good last night.

    John Oliver is boring at best.  He is one angry dude.
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Heading to Washington this morning. Much work to do. Focus on trade and military. #MAGA 


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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Stop defending him.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
    Isn't it obvious?
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    Anyone see the pick of the guy Nazi wearing an 82nd Airborne hat at the Nazi parade?

    You know, the same group that stormed the beaches of Normandy to defeat the fucking Nazis?
  • Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
    Isn't it obvious?

    Ok.  So if someone disagrees with your stance what do you consider them.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I hope he handles that Guam missile launch tomorrow better than he handled the NAZIS marching in the streets over the weekend.

    Hopelessly unprepared, and unqualified.


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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Stop defending him.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Anyone see the pick of the guy Nazi wearing an 82nd Airborne hat at the Nazi parade?

    You know, the same group that stormed the beaches of Normandy to defeat the fucking Nazis?
    They don't  claim to be geniuses
    Just racist bigoted anti-Semitic homophobes
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,120
    Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
    Isn't it obvious?

    Ok.  So if someone disagrees with your stance what do you consider them.
    Do you actually pay attention or understand what it is that you write? Jeez!

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    Tiki said:
    Stop defending him.
    This.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Bring something to the table bot.

    Stop defending him.
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  • This is getting cray cray.  The defeaning shouts of NAZI !  is getting louder and louder.  It is not normal to shout until someone accepts your position.  President Trump a Nazi? cmon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    g under p said:
    Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
    Isn't it obvious?

    Ok.  So if someone disagrees with your stance what do you consider them.
    Do you actually pay attention or understand what it is that you write? Jeez!

    Peace

    I do yes.  People are starting to shut down any side of discussion on here until others agree with their stance.  There is some serious suppression going on.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,120
    Let's see 36 hours no mention from the President of the Nazi white supremacist group's violence. On the the other hand in less than an hour he calls out the CEO of Merck an African American businessman.

    What do think those white supremacists are thinking or feeling today? 

    For me I think they're saying the MFing President has our backs.....high fives.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,937
    Merck CEO drops off presidential council and tRump blasts him in a tweet about 10 minutes after the announcement.

    The CEO is African-American.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
    Isn't it obvious?

    Ok.  So if someone disagrees with your stance what do you consider them.
    A disagreeable.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    PJFan, Trumpito is a fucking moron. The shouts should get louder.  He encouraged that reckless racist behavior (in addition to every other good goddamned thing he's done incompetently since he was sworn in) and now he's up to his shriveled Titleists in it.   

    BTW, and this is the first and last time I'll address it, (Kat cut me a little slack), no one gives a shit what you think.  

    Stop defending him.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    I don't recall any of these progressive organizations protesting dapl? nor do I remember much coverage of the dapl protests on my cable TV boxes? hmmm?

    I wonder who funds all these progressive organizations?

    Democracy for America, Working Families Party, Resist Here, Progressive Change Campaign Committee, OurRevolution, People's Action, Courage Campaign, #AllOfUs, United We Dream, MoveOn.org, Pantsuit Nation, Town Hall Project, iAmerica, #MarchForTruth, UltraViolet, IfNotNow, People Power, CREDO, Center for American Progress Action Fund, Brand New Congress, SEIU, CODEPINK, Peoples Climate Movement, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, CPD Action, Stand Up America, Emerge America, National Domestic Workers Alliance, Moms Rising, RISE Stronger, Democracy Spring, FIRM, Demos, Sunrise Movement, Spread The Vote, Stand.earth, Our Climate, People For the American Way, Food & Water Watch, NextGen America, Action Together Network, New Leaders Council, Run for Something, Corporate Accountability International, Moms Demand Action
    Corporations are threatened by losing money, and are encouraged by potential profit - so they work to act in ways which produce profit, like working via lobbyists to not taint their reputation, yet curry favour with members of government.
     
    Lobbyists are simple: they're threatened by policies which lose their employers money, and are encouraged by policies which gain their employers money - so they influence until their employers are supported according to their intended goals.

    Members of government are threatened by lack of public support (necessary to win votes) and lack of corporate support (necessary to profit), and are encouraged by potential profit. 

    You have a cycle which exists because America's population is proud/naive/uneducated/oblivious (pick any) enough that the threat of lack of public support can be subdued by simply lying and hiding self-serving actions which far favour corporate support over public support, since the public can be fooled, and corporate favour yields greater compensation. How do you break this cycle, when the only threat is minuscule due to a people who have taught the powers that be, that they do not need to consider them? 

    The more I think about this, the more precarious and finite the American empire seems to be. 
    Agree with everything except I think you may be overstating the public support needed by members of govt. Ignoring gerrymandering for the moment, govt members only need 25% support (if that) to be elected or re-elected, sometimes 0% when they run unopposed.

    Anyway, so what can be done about this? We know its impossible to take money out of politics, never happening (we cant take money out of concert tickets let alone politics). If you cant take money out of the equation its likely you cant take out lobbyists either.
    Would you agree that next best is to educate on what goes on behind the scenes? Shouldn't we know who the Soros's and Koch's are and what they are up to? All things being equal its safe to say if you're on the same side as Soros or Koch, you probably should reconsider your position.
    Shouldn't those that support the groups I listed in another post know what they are supporting, counter-protesting and protesting?
    What is the goal? to raise awareness that white supremacists are racist?
    Well were standing up to whats right... well where were you standing as we dropped (and continue to) drop 100,000 bombs on brown people in other countries, where are you standing when while residents of Michigan still have poisonous water, did you stand against pipelines and fracking, etc etc.
    Im not saying people shouldnt protest or counter-protest, Im saying they should know who they are standing with when they do.
    They arent protesting for change they protesting awareness (the womens march) and they are conveniently being used as photo-ops for political agenda.
  • g under p said:
    Any comment from Ben Carson regarding Charlottesville? Can someone go wake him up and ask him what is like working for a racist, white nationalist? Please.
     

    I know you would prefer to have a different President but now you've gone from disagreeing with President Trump to he's a white nationalist?
    Isn't it obvious?

    Ok.  So if someone disagrees with your stance what do you consider them.
    Do you actually pay attention or understand what it is that you write? Jeez!

    Peace

    I do yes.  People are starting to shut down any side of discussion on here until others agree with their stance.  There is some serious suppression going on.
    There is a reason for that: the recent incident is not up for discussion. Nazis and nazi supporters do not have a voice and never should have a voice.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited August 2017
    Freedom of speech, yes.
    Freedom to intimidate?  Not really covered by the 1st amendment.
    Smells like terrorism.



    Stop defending him.

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,120
    Any bets on whether or not the President will call the white supremacist group's and the violence from Saturday?

    Well the President is human right, that said I think he will call them out if ONLY, Half ass and Half hearted that's his style. If he doesn't call them out in ANY WAY that will certainly be the last time I'll call him President.

    Peace
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  • ^^^

    You're missing the point TB.  Who is supporting Nazis on here?  No one.  There are people on here that perceive others that do and shout at them and say their opinions and thoughts don't count. As I said Nazis and their supporters should never have a voice but just to be a normal guy and get labelled as one because I'm not going around calling everyone a Nazi is crazy.

  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited August 2017
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