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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    No.  That shit was always there. Ignoring it does not make it go away.

    Then please explain what you meant, because in the context of the conversation, your post and the one to which you replied, it seems that you are applauding the Nazis' new found victory over the censorship that society has imposed on them.

    This is a serious topic and I don't think you want to be banned for shamelessly trolling it.

    Now I appear to applauding Nazis'.  Good grief.
    Perhaps if you took the time to write your thoughts out in a mature and thoughtful manner, and clarified your responses when asked, you wouldn't be in such a position.
    Any reader of the English language would have to be quite inventive and liberal in interpreting your post to mean anything else.
    So until I do I appear to be a dick, troll and a Nazi supporter. Got it.
    They were your words, if you are not a native English speaker then I will retract my interpretation, otherwise I don't know what else you could have meant.
    Feel free to explain what you meant, that would be a refreshing change of pace for you.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Eventually people no matter what they believe in will find a place to express it. It is only natural.  Wrong or right.  
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    edited August 2017
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    I'm not complaining at all when I say this.  I get called a dick and troll for even being perceived as having anything but hate for President Trump.  It's a very odd feeling.
    No, you get called a troll because you inject Trump into every topic with posts that only rarely make sense.
    You respond with unrelated posts that aren't relevant or even cogent and the clear intent is to flamebait, which is clearly stated as being against the forum posting rules.
    An example is when you posted this in the Concept of God thread: "I guess to put in context what god is as a non-believer through a believers eyes would be like trying to explain that President Trump is real and that many people believe in him.  Yet so many don't and can't get that fact through some heads."
    It's trickier to strictly define such Trump trolling within the Trump thread, but the overall intent is clear, you enjoy the discomfort that most of us have with Trump, and you seek to increase and remind us of that comfort as often as you can.  That is trolling.
    Hear hear
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    As I said.  It's a very odd feeling.  This thread should be re-named to "Only post here if you hate Trump and only have bad things to say about him or else thread".


  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    Eventually people no matter what they believe in will find a place to express it. It is only natural.  Wrong or right.  
    And do you believe that expression or lack thereof occurs at random, or are there societal and circumstantial factors that precipitate the expression or lack thereof?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    I believe that at the end of the day people need to express or at least divulge what they think.  Some go about it the wrong way though.  

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,888
    dignin said:
    JC29856 said:
    Kat said:
    Michael, still here‏ @Home_Halfway

    This is Heather Heyer. She was killed by the Nazi who ran people over in #Charlottesville.

    She died fighting white supremacy. Remember her.






    Do we care that an innocent was murdered or do we continue to co-opt her death to vindicate our political beliefs?
    Nice try, nobody here short of a few members who are in the cult of Donald buy your BS.

    But keep trying to justify your vote for Trump. 
    It was a vote swap...remember?  Seems like a good idea about now.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:
    JC29856 said:
    Kat said:
    Michael, still here‏ @Home_Halfway

    This is Heather Heyer. She was killed by the Nazi who ran people over in #Charlottesville.

    She died fighting white supremacy. Remember her.






    Do we care that an innocent was murdered or do we continue to co-opt her death to vindicate our political beliefs?
    Nice try, nobody here short of a few members who are in the cult of Donald buy your BS.

    But keep trying to justify your vote for Trump. 

    tell me what I'm selling?
    tell me why Im justifying a vote?
    tell me what I think is wrong with the president to feel the need to justify?

    I'm always trying to learn more about myself.
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,968
    Since the alt-right attribute their inspiration to trump themselves...

    Ex-KKK Leader David Duke Says White Supremacists Will ‘Fulfill’ Trump’s Promises

    “We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump.”

    As the official start of the “Unite the Right” rally kicked off in Charlottesville, Virginia, former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke said the gathering of white supremacists, neo-Nazis and far-right individuals pointed to a future fulfillment of President Donald Trump’s “promises.”

    “This represents a turning point for the people of this country,” said Duke in video uploaded to Twitter by Indianapolis Star photojournalist Mykal McEldowney. “We are determined to take our country back. We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in, that’s why we voted for Donald Trump. Because he said he’s going to take our country back. That’s what we gotta do.”

    In a tweet, Trump condemned “hate” and “violence” in response to clashes at the rally on Saturday, though he did not call out white supremacists in particular.

    Duke responded to Trump’s tweet by stating that Trump should “remember” that “White Americans’ were the ones to put him in office.

    Duke, a former KKK Grand Wizard, has long connected his message of white supremacy to ideas espoused by the president.

    continued at
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-duke-charlottesville-rally-trump_us_598f3ca8e4b0909642974a10?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    ^^^
    That guy and group are nuts.  We all know that.  They use President Trump for their voice.  That still doesn't make what the believe in true.  Let me get this straight, the press now wants President Trump to call out white supremacy?  Is that why people are angry now?

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I believe that at the end of the day people need to express or at least divulge what they think.  Some go about it the wrong way though.  

    You didn't answer my question.
    What makes people express or divulge, and what makes them refrain from doing so?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    That guy and group are nuts.  We all know that.  They use President Trump for their voice.  That still doesn't make what the believe in true.  Let me get this straight, the press now wants President Trump to call out white supremacy?  Is that why people are angry now?

    Do you not think that he should?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    That guy and group are nuts.  We all know that.  They use President Trump for their voice.  That still doesn't make what the believe in true.  Let me get this straight, the press now wants President Trump to call out white supremacy?  Is that why people are angry now?

    you're trying too hard to take away their "I told you so moment", don't. Let them have it, someone was killed, emotions and fervor is running high. You can't and won't win this one.
    look for the paradox and hypocrisy then point it out once the dust settles and the facts present themselves.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    JC29856 said:
    Kat said:
    Michael, still here‏ @Home_Halfway

    This is Heather Heyer. She was killed by the Nazi who ran people over in #Charlottesville.

    She died fighting white supremacy. Remember her.






    Do we care that an innocent was murdered or do we continue to co-opt her death to vindicate our political beliefs?
    Nice try, nobody here short of a few members who are in the cult of Donald buy your BS.

    But keep trying to justify your vote for Trump. 
    It was a vote swap...remember?  Seems like a good idea about now.
    Oh yeah, silly me, I forgot. Well that should make it all okay then.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    That guy and group are nuts.  We all know that.  They use President Trump for their voice.  That still doesn't make what the believe in true.  Let me get this straight, the press now wants President Trump to call out white supremacy?  Is that why people are angry now?

    you're trying too hard to take away their "I told you so moment", don't. Let them have it, someone was killed, emotions and fervor is running high. You can't and won't win this one.
    look for the paradox and hypocrisy then point it out once the dust settles and the facts present themselves.
    Ah yes, that elusive 3D chess that only a Trump supporter (you) can understand. 
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I believe that at the end of the day people need to express or at least divulge what they think.  Some go about it the wrong way though.  

    You didn't answer my question.
    What makes people express or divulge, and what makes them refrain from doing so?
    Rules.  Like this forum.  Everyone must follow them (myself included).  It we stray untoward we are stopped.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    JC29856 said:
    Kat said:
    Michael, still here‏ @Home_Halfway

    This is Heather Heyer. She was killed by the Nazi who ran people over in #Charlottesville.

    She died fighting white supremacy. Remember her.






    Do we care that an innocent was murdered or do we continue to co-opt her death to vindicate our political beliefs?
    Nice try, nobody here short of a few members who are in the cult of Donald buy your BS.

    But keep trying to justify your vote for Trump. 
    It was a vote swap...remember?  Seems like a good idea about now.
    tell me why I think its a bad idea now?

    I'm always willing to learn more about myself.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    JC29856 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    That guy and group are nuts.  We all know that.  They use President Trump for their voice.  That still doesn't make what the believe in true.  Let me get this straight, the press now wants President Trump to call out white supremacy?  Is that why people are angry now?

    you're trying too hard to take away their "I told you so moment", don't. Let them have it, someone was killed, emotions and fervor is running high. You can't and won't win this one.
    look for the paradox and hypocrisy then point it out once the dust settles and the facts present themselves.
    The guy who believes in the Pizza Gate and Seth Rich conspiracies is telling the blind Trump supporter here to let the dust settle and wait for the facts to present themselves.

    After yesterday I needed a laugh. Thank you.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    That guy and group are nuts.  We all know that.  They use President Trump for their voice.  That still doesn't make what the believe in true.  Let me get this straight, the press now wants President Trump to call out white supremacy?  Is that why people are angry now?

    Do you not think that he should?

    That is a question that does not need an answer.  
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I believe that at the end of the day people need to express or at least divulge what they think.  Some go about it the wrong way though.  

    You didn't answer my question.
    What makes people express or divulge, and what makes them refrain from doing so?
    Rules.  Like this forum.  Everyone must follow them (myself included).  It we stray untoward we are stopped.
    So what has changed that Nazis no longer feel constrained by those rules?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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