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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,671
    edited July 2017
    rgambs said:
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
    In Chicago I saw actual signs on some vendors that that say they won't even provide ketchup, and others that did provide it, but under a sign that stated it was a crime, lol ... In fact, I was under the impression that this whole no-ketchup-on-hotdogs thing was born out of Chicago! So I'm so sure about that assumption you're making about the Midwest.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Been to a few stadiums where the dog vendors only carry mustard packets.  (As stated before my brother always asks/puts ketchup on his.  I laugh at him when he has to go to the concession stand and get ketchup.) 
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
    In Chicago I saw actual signs on some vendors that that say they won't even provide ketchup, and others that did provide it, but under a sign that stated it was a crime, lol ... In fact, I was under the impression that this whole no-ketchup-on-hotdogs thing was born out of Chicago! So I'm so sure about that assumption you're making about the Midwest.
    Chicago isn't really a Midwestern city.  I mean, geographically it is obviously in the Midwest, but the mindset is entirely different from a city like Cleveland, Des Moines, or Detroit.

    They had ketchup at all the vendors in Europe...
    :confused:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,671
    edited July 2017
    rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
    In Chicago I saw actual signs on some vendors that that say they won't even provide ketchup, and others that did provide it, but under a sign that stated it was a crime, lol ... In fact, I was under the impression that this whole no-ketchup-on-hotdogs thing was born out of Chicago! So I'm so sure about that assumption you're making about the Midwest.
    Chicago isn't really a Midwestern city.  I mean, geographically it is obviously in the Midwest, but the mindset is entirely different from a city like Cleveland, Des Moines, or Detroit.

    They had ketchup at all the vendors in Europe...
    :confused:
    Yeah, but Europeans know nothing about hotdogs. :lol:;)

    FWIW, tons of people put the crap on their hotdogs, and it is indeed available at most vendors. That doesn't mean that it's right. =)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
    In Chicago I saw actual signs on some vendors that that say they won't even provide ketchup, and others that did provide it, but under a sign that stated it was a crime, lol ... In fact, I was under the impression that this whole no-ketchup-on-hotdogs thing was born out of Chicago! So I'm so sure about that assumption you're making about the Midwest.
    Chicago isn't really a Midwestern city.  I mean, geographically it is obviously in the Midwest, but the mindset is entirely different from a city like Cleveland, Des Moines, or Detroit.

    They had ketchup at all the vendors in Europe...
    :confused:
    Yeah, but Europeans know nothing about hotdogs. :lol:;)

    FWIW, tons of people put the crap on their hotdogs, and it is indeed available at most vendors. That doesn't mean that it's right. =)
    I am not sure you should discredit the inventors of the hotdog so casually!
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,195
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    ketchup on hot dogs? are your crazy? that's as bad as ketchup and scrambled eggs!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,671
    edited July 2017
    rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
    In Chicago I saw actual signs on some vendors that that say they won't even provide ketchup, and others that did provide it, but under a sign that stated it was a crime, lol ... In fact, I was under the impression that this whole no-ketchup-on-hotdogs thing was born out of Chicago! So I'm so sure about that assumption you're making about the Midwest.
    Chicago isn't really a Midwestern city.  I mean, geographically it is obviously in the Midwest, but the mindset is entirely different from a city like Cleveland, Des Moines, or Detroit.

    They had ketchup at all the vendors in Europe...
    :confused:
    Yeah, but Europeans know nothing about hotdogs. :lol:;)

    FWIW, tons of people put the crap on their hotdogs, and it is indeed available at most vendors. That doesn't mean that it's right. =)
    I am not sure you should discredit the inventors of the hotdog so casually!
    Nah, they invented frankfurters. The Americans took their idea and named them hotdogs (and lowered the quality of the wiener in most cases, which is why they are so cheap) ... and this topping argument is super American, hahaha! I never heard anyone debating hotdog toppings until I started talking to a bunch of Yankees, and I realized there was actually a debate about it. :lol:
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    The primary flavor components of ketchup and relish are the same, sugar and vinegar.

    You people have me all twisted up over here.
    I can tell you one thing for sure, the Midwest does not follow this rule, and nobody I know has even heard of it!
    In Chicago I saw actual signs on some vendors that that say they won't even provide ketchup, and others that did provide it, but under a sign that stated it was a crime, lol ... In fact, I was under the impression that this whole no-ketchup-on-hotdogs thing was born out of Chicago! So I'm so sure about that assumption you're making about the Midwest.
    I'm pretty sure if the word ketchup is so much as uttered at Gene and Judes (well known hot dog stand outside of Chicago) they will literally throw you out lol.  If not, you'd want to leave for being ridiculed and shamed. 
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    i'm a total pizza snob and the best pizza i've had in many years was in ithaca. incredible x 10
    https://www.markspizzeria.com/ithaca
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    So it's a Chicago thing I have gathered.
    Another city that thinks they own a food that was invented in another country lol

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mcgruff10 said:
    ketchup on hot dogs? are your crazy? that's as bad as ketchup and scrambled eggs!
    Add some high potency hot sauce and ketchup is welcome on my eggs occasionally.
    Eggs (hotdogs too!) are a strong umami profile, which is enhanced with salt and sugar and balanced by sour, which happen to be the dominant flavors of tomato ketchup.  Add hot sauce and you have a very balanced flavor combination.
    It's funny, eggs, hotdogs and fries are the only things I use ketchup on, and there's rules against two of them.
    I feel like some of these food rules aren't based on sound kitchen logic, or any logic at all.

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Taste drives it for me.  Wasn't a rule in my family buy good sense prevailed.  ;)

    Pizza rocks without any ketchup nor mustard.

    (BTW, good hot sauce is an acceptable addition to any meal.)
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Taste drives it for me.  Wasn't a rule in my family buy good sense prevailed.  ;)

    Pizza rocks without any ketchup nor mustard.

    (BTW, good hot sauce is an acceptable addition to any meal.)
    Now we have some common ground!  
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    rgambs said:
    Taste drives it for me.  Wasn't a rule in my family buy good sense prevailed.  ;)

    Pizza rocks without any ketchup nor mustard.

    (BTW, good hot sauce is an acceptable addition to any meal.)
    Now we have some common ground!  
    Hello!  I put that on almost everything.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:
    rgambs said:
    Taste drives it for me.  Wasn't a rule in my family buy good sense prevailed.  ;)

    Pizza rocks without any ketchup nor mustard.

    (BTW, good hot sauce is an acceptable addition to any meal.)
    Now we have some common ground!  
    Hello!  I put that on almost everything.
    :clap:

    I make my own and use it almost every day!  
    Best cure for bad pizza.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,671
    edited July 2017
    rgambs said:
    So it's a Chicago thing I have gathered.
    Another city that thinks they own a food that was invented in another country lol

    Well, I know people in Canada who have never been to Chicago who know ketchup shouldn't go on hotdogs... I don't know where they figured that out. ;)
    For me, well, the question is somewhat moot. I think ketchup is pretty disgusting in any case and I don't put it on anything. It is the worst condiment on the market. I said it was gauche at best to put ketchup on hotdogs more because I think ketchup is gauche, period. :lol:
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    No ketchup on hot dogs is definitely not a Chicago thing.  It's part of the hot dog etiquette from the National Hot Dog & Sausage Council.