America's Gun Violence

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    HesCalledDyer said:
    unsung said:
    dignin said:
    Oh my.


    Well, he is correct.
    He is... if we're still living in the 1790's.

    But this is 2017 and the government has drones.  You don't take a knife to a gun fight and expect to win.  I'd say the same follows for bringing guns to a drone fight.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I give up.  This quote system is terrible on mobile.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:
    I give up.  This quote system is terrible on mobile.
    Yes it is. It helps if you press Return to get out of the original post first. But don't backspace, or you'll get back in the post and you can't get out. 

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    unsung said:
    I give up.  This quote system is terrible on mobile.
    Fake News!  User error!!!
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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    So much denial from so many people in one thread 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    riley540 said:
    So much denial from so many people in one thread 
    You are going to actually have to be specific...
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,555
    edited June 2017
    riley540 said:
    So much denial from so many people in one thread 


    Guns and denial go hand in hand: 'if someone wants to kill someone, they're going to find a way no matter what'. 'Guns make us safer' etc. 
    Post edited by Go Beavers on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:
    riley540 said:
    So much denial from so many people in one thread 


    Guns and denial go hand in hand: 'if someone wants to kill someone, they're going to find a way no matter what'. 'Guns make us safer' etc. 
    Guns make me safer from hunger.  Still chowing down on the deer that a gun helped me harvest last winter :)
  • mickeyrat
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    unsung said:
    I give up.  This quote system is terrible on mobile.


    tab key to advance it to next line. seems quote function has cursor in the next space available of the quote. you need to advance cursor out of quote before typing your response.
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  • ponytd
    ponytd Nashville Posts: 671
    Go Beavers said:
    riley540 said:
    So much denial from so many people in one thread 


    Guns and denial go hand in hand: 'if someone wants to kill someone, they're going to find a way no matter what'. 'Guns make us safer' etc. 
    I disagree with the "if someone wants to kill someone, they're going to find a way no matter what". Yes, some people do use it as a denial, but I consider it more a statement of fact. People that want to hurt/kill others, will use whatever means necessary, i.e. gun, car, bomb, knife, etc. I do agree though that the "guns make us safer" comment as a denial though. They don't.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Stabbing or beating someone to death is much more personal and takes much more coldness than shooting someone. I'd be willing to bet that if you eliminated guns, you'd see the murder and suicide rates drop precipitously. Guns make both much too easy. Not that I'm advocating for the elimination of guns, mind you.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,555
    The truth on the first statement looks more like "people can be aggressive and impulsive, and if they have access to a gun, they're more likely to kill or injure someone". Even planned attacks where it's hard to get firearms have fewer deaths. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    There's no question that it's easier to kill large numbers of people with firearms than with pretty much any other weapon that is available to the general public. You might really want to kill someone, or many someones, but realistically your chances of carrying it out successfully are far lower without guns.  
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited June 2017
    PJPOWER said:
    Go Beavers said:
    riley540 said:
    So much denial from so many people in one thread 


    Guns and denial go hand in hand: 'if someone wants to kill someone, they're going to find a way no matter what'. 'Guns make us safer' etc. 
    Guns make me safer from hunger.  Still chowing down on the deer that a gun helped me harvest last winter :)
    No one is gonna take your hunting rifle, don't worry. But there is this thing called the supermarket that doesn't require a gun to keep you safe from hunger.
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  • ponytd
    ponytd Nashville Posts: 671
    Totally agree with all those statements. And I guess you could classify that statement as more defensive, than denial. It kind of holds truths on both sides of the argument. But like you said Halifax, guns are the easiest choice
  • unsung
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    He is... if we're still living in the 1790's.

    But this is 2017 and the government has drones.  You don't take a knife to a gun fight and expect to win.  I'd say the same follows for bringing guns to a drone fight.
    Once people get past the brainwashing everything gets much clearer.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Stabbing or beating someone to death is much more personal and takes much more coldness than shooting someone. I'd be willing to bet that if you eliminated guns, you'd see the murder and suicide rates drop precipitously. Guns make both much too easy. Not that I'm advocating for the elimination of guns, mind you.
    i dunno man, you haven't seen me play call of duty. i am badass with a knife. i leave bodies erwhere i go!
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419
    Guns don't kill people

    Gun owners kill people.......

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    unsung said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He is... if we're still living in the 1790's.

    But this is 2017 and the government has drones.  You don't take a knife to a gun fight and expect to win.  I'd say the same follows for bringing guns to a drone fight.
    Once people get past the brainwashing everything gets much clearer.
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  • my2hands
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    unsung said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    He is... if we're still living in the 1790's.

    But this is 2017 and the government has drones.  You don't take a knife to a gun fight and expect to win.  I'd say the same follows for bringing guns to a drone fight.
    Once people get past the brainwashing everything gets much clearer.
    Care to elaborate?
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