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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

    Man Celebrating 21st Birthday Kills Himself Minutes After Accidentally Killing His Best Friend, Police Say - TIME https://apple.news/AejklQ_b8QCC23Gg7jEYHuA
    at's 
    Having a firearm in your household exponentially increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt or killed with it.
    that's like saying if you have a fireplace in your home your chances of having a fire will increase.  It's a pretty obvious statement Del.  

    I have lots of beer in my house, my chances of getting drunk are increased. ;)
    the whole point of this, though, is that people argue they keep guns in their house for protection, when so often the opposite occurs; they end up shooting themselves or someone they care about instead of a big bad boogeyman. 
    I guess it is a matter of risk and mediating those risks.  Having draino in the house increased the risk of a child drinking draino...that’s why you lock it up or keep it out of reach...Taking appropriate measures to prevent accidents mitigates many of the associated risks.  
    but if you store the gun properly and safely, there's pretty much zero chance of it helping you in a break in. 

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4g8777
    Evidently you missed the quick access safe discussion we had a while back.  There are plenty of options out there that provide quick access as well as safe storing.  Bedside biometric or coded handgun safes have been around a while now.  Most gun owners I know have some variant of them.
    I did miss that, and that's great. But I'd like to see stats on what percentage of gun owners actually have them, and how affordable such a thing really is. 
    My handgun is stored in one.  In addition every single rifle and shotgun I own has a trigger lock and is stored in a safe.

    You are in the minority 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,891
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

    Man Celebrating 21st Birthday Kills Himself Minutes After Accidentally Killing His Best Friend, Police Say - TIME https://apple.news/AejklQ_b8QCC23Gg7jEYHuA
    at's 
    Having a firearm in your household exponentially increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt or killed with it.
    that's like saying if you have a fireplace in your home your chances of having a fire will increase.  It's a pretty obvious statement Del.  

    I have lots of beer in my house, my chances of getting drunk are increased. ;)
    the whole point of this, though, is that people argue they keep guns in their house for protection, when so often the opposite occurs; they end up shooting themselves or someone they care about instead of a big bad boogeyman. 
    I guess it is a matter of risk and mediating those risks.  Having draino in the house increased the risk of a child drinking draino...that’s why you lock it up or keep it out of reach...Taking appropriate measures to prevent accidents mitigates many of the associated risks.  
    but if you store the gun properly and safely, there's pretty much zero chance of it helping you in a break in. 

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4g8777
    Evidently you missed the quick access safe discussion we had a while back.  There are plenty of options out there that provide quick access as well as safe storing.  Bedside biometric or coded handgun safes have been around a while now.  Most gun owners I know have some variant of them.
    I did miss that, and that's great. But I'd like to see stats on what percentage of gun owners actually have them, and how affordable such a thing really is. 
    My handgun is stored in one.  In addition every single rifle and shotgun I own has a trigger lock and is stored in a safe.

    You are in the minority 
    Yeah I just don’t understand it.  It literally takes two seconds to lock up your firearm. Fucking irresponsible and lazy as hell 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Another “legal” gun and “responsible” gun manufacturer, owner, buyer or seller that won’t suffer any consequences as another couple of families are left to pick up the pieces.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/los-angeles-sal-castro-middle-school-shooting/index.html
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,111
    12 years old??!!
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2018
    Another “legal” gun and “responsible” gun manufacturer, owner, buyer or seller that won’t suffer any consequences as another couple of families are left to pick up the pieces.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/los-angeles-sal-castro-middle-school-shooting/index.html
    By California state law, the owners may actually be liable here.  Regardless, the law didn’t stop the loss of life...so what would have?  CA has some of the most strict gun laws in the United States...

    “Firearms must be kept locked up when children may be present. The 2008 California Dangerous Weapons Control Law modified California Penal Code §12035 defining criminal storage of a firearm as keeping "any loaded firearm within any premises that are under his or her custody or control and he or she knows or reasonably should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm." A person may be charged with a crime, if he or she keeps a loaded firearm, and the child takes the firearm to a public place or causes injury.[68]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,300
    PJPOWER said:
    Another “legal” gun and “responsible” gun manufacturer, owner, buyer or seller that won’t suffer any consequences as another couple of families are left to pick up the pieces.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/los-angeles-sal-castro-middle-school-shooting/index.html
    By California state law, the owners may actually be liable here.  Regardless, the law didn’t stop the loss of life...so what would have?  CA has some of the most strict gun laws in the United States...

    “Firearms must be kept locked up when children may be present. The 2008 California Dangerous Weapons Control Law modified California Penal Code §12035 defining criminal storage of a firearm as keeping "any loaded firearm within any premises that are under his or her custody or control and he or she knows or reasonably should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm." A person may be charged with a crime, if he or she keeps a loaded firearm, and the child takes the firearm to a public place or causes injury.[68]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California

    Orange bafoon has stated multiple times if there was a good guy shutting bullets in the other direction lives could of been saved , so maybe another 12 yr old with gun could of prevented this girl from shutting the students ...makes sense no lol 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    Another “legal” gun and “responsible” gun manufacturer, owner, buyer or seller that won’t suffer any consequences as another couple of families are left to pick up the pieces.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/los-angeles-sal-castro-middle-school-shooting/index.html
    By California state law, the owners may actually be liable here.  Regardless, the law didn’t stop the loss of life...so what would have?  CA has some of the most strict gun laws in the United States...

    “Firearms must be kept locked up when children may be present. The 2008 California Dangerous Weapons Control Law modified California Penal Code §12035 defining criminal storage of a firearm as keeping "any loaded firearm within any premises that are under his or her custody or control and he or she knows or reasonably should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm." A person may be charged with a crime, if he or she keeps a loaded firearm, and the child takes the firearm to a public place or causes injury.[68]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California

    Orange bafoon has stated multiple times if there was a good guy shutting bullets in the other direction lives could of been saved , so maybe another 12 yr old with gun could of prevented this girl from shutting the students ...makes sense no lol 
    Or maybe if someone would have gone outside and fired a shotgun in the air like Biden suggested? Lol
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,550
    Another “legal” gun and “responsible” gun manufacturer, owner, buyer or seller that won’t suffer any consequences as another couple of families are left to pick up the pieces.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/los-angeles-sal-castro-middle-school-shooting/index.html
    Guns don't wound and kill people

    The children  of gun owners wound and  kill people
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,014
    I thought it was kind of funny. I don't think you have to be anti-gun to find that story amusing.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2018
    mace1229 said:
    I thought it was kind of funny. I don't think you have to be anti-gun to find that story amusing.
    Oh, don’t get me wrong, I think it’s funny as hell!  I just don’t think it makes any sense in relation to “gun violence”.  Maybe it would be cool in a “America’s funniest” thread :)
    Just strikes me as odd that it was posted here...unless the underlying mentality behind the post is that they hate all guns and all hunters as some others have eluded to here.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    and this is why you can't have a reasonable conversation with a gun nut....

    you went from 0mph to OMG YOU WANT TO BAN ALL GUNS in 3 seconds flat

    looney tunes, drink in more of that NRA/Russia kool-aid
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    and this is why you can't have a reasonable conversation with a gun nut....

    you went from 0mph to OMG YOU WANT TO BAN ALL GUNS in 3 seconds flat

    looney tunes, drink in more of that NRA/Russia kool-aid
    And here comes crazy...What does this have to do with NRA/Russia?  Aren’t you the anti-hunter from the other day?  Do you think that hunters and shotguns/hunting rifles should be legal?  Come on, be honest, you obviously have someone else on your side here.
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    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

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    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,014
    I laughed that he got hurt.
    Until I read further down and saw he was airlifted out, then I felt a little bad for laughing. 
    Still funny though.
    It's fine to post a story like that, it adds humor to a thread like this.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
    And you therefor approve of the ownership of shotguns and hunting rifles, dually noted.  And here I thought you were against people owning guns.  I guess I was wrong about you.
    Here, I’ll post another funny hunting article :)
    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
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    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
    And you therefor approve of the ownership of shotguns and hunting rifles, dually noted.  And here I thought you were against people owning guns.  I guess I was wrong about you.
    Here, I’ll post another funny hunting article :)
    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
    Sorry, but I don't find anyone getting shot in the face funny. Glad you revealed your responsible nature as a gun owner by finding humor in that. Guess I wasn't wrong about you.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,828
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
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    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
    And you therefor approve of the ownership of shotguns and hunting rifles, dually noted.  And here I thought you were against people owning guns.  I guess I was wrong about you.
    Here, I’ll post another funny hunting article :)
    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
    You’re not doing your cause any favours. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    and this is why you can't have a reasonable conversation with a gun nut....

    you went from 0mph to OMG YOU WANT TO BAN ALL GUNS in 3 seconds flat

    looney tunes, drink in more of that NRA/Russia kool-aid
    And here comes crazy...What does this have to do with NRA/Russia?  Aren’t you the anti-hunter from the other day?  Do you think that hunters and shotguns/hunting rifles should be legal?  Come on, be honest, you obviously have someone else on your side here.
    you don't want to know what I think

    I only have reasonable solutions that have been proven to work in other countries

    from what I've gathered, common logic isn't your strong suit
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
    And you therefor approve of the ownership of shotguns and hunting rifles, dually noted.  And here I thought you were against people owning guns.  I guess I was wrong about you.
    Here, I’ll post another funny hunting article :)
    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
    You’re not doing your cause any favours. 
    What is my cause?
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
    And you therefor approve of the ownership of shotguns and hunting rifles, dually noted.  And here I thought you were against people owning guns.  I guess I was wrong about you.
    Here, I’ll post another funny hunting article :)
    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
    Sorry, but I don't find anyone getting shot in the face funny. Glad you revealed your responsible nature as a gun owner by finding humor in that. Guess I wasn't wrong about you.
    Meh, you are just being a snowflake.  I find Darwin nominees funny.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    and this is why you can't have a reasonable conversation with a gun nut....

    you went from 0mph to OMG YOU WANT TO BAN ALL GUNS in 3 seconds flat

    looney tunes, drink in more of that NRA/Russia kool-aid
    And here comes crazy...What does this have to do with NRA/Russia?  Aren’t you the anti-hunter from the other day?  Do you think that hunters and shotguns/hunting rifles should be legal?  Come on, be honest, you obviously have someone else on your side here.
    you don't want to know what I think

    I only have reasonable solutions that have been proven to work in other countries

    from what I've gathered, common logic isn't your strong suit
    Not that I don’t want to, I just really do not care what anti-hunters think.
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    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    Jesus dude, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning. But I do love how you staunch pro-gunners immediately resort to "you hate all hunters and want all guns banned" in almost every response. Talk about a credibility gap. For the record, if it'll lower your blood pressure, I don't hate hunters and I don't want to see all guns banned. And, the story fits this thread title as I'm willing to bet that a goose getting blown out the sky by a shotgun in a state in America is pretty violent. And no, I'm not happy the hunter got hurt but I'm laughing that you're so butt hurt by my post.
    Just trying to understand your stance.  Glad you are a supporter of hunting and owning hunting rifles and shotguns because 

    To clarify, I approve of hunting for eating or rodent/pest/population control but not for "sport" or "trophy" hunting.
    And you therefor approve of the ownership of shotguns and hunting rifles, dually noted.  And here I thought you were against people owning guns.  I guess I was wrong about you.
    Here, I’ll post another funny hunting article :)
    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/duck-hunting-protester-gets-accidentally-shot-face-video/
    Sorry, but I don't find anyone getting shot in the face funny. Glad you revealed your responsible nature as a gun owner by finding humor in that. Guess I wasn't wrong about you.
    Meh, you are just being a snowflake.  I find Darwin nominees funny.
    Ah, the intelligence of the snowflake retort.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
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    I didn’t realize we were engaged in an intelligent conversation here, you have yet to engage in any kind of intelligent debating in this thread.  Does the word “snowflake” “trigger” you?
    No hard feelings since you are a stated supporter of hunters owning guns.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously trying to understand your stance...So you are against hunting or?  How does this article have anything to do with “gun violence” in the context of this thread?  Last time I checked, geese are not endangered, so where do you really stand on hunting?  You post legitimate articles related to gun violence in reference to school shootings, mass shootings, accidental shootings, and then this random one of a hunter that was probably following all applicable laws and a freak occurrence?  It somewhat undermines your credibility in the debate in general.  People say that “no one wants all guns banned” and then you post something like this where a hunter was using a shotgun to shoot a goose and are happy he got hurt?  
    So be honest, you want all guns banned and hate hunters. Just come out and say it so that I can stop giving you any credibility and respect.
    and this is why you can't have a reasonable conversation with a gun nut....

    you went from 0mph to OMG YOU WANT TO BAN ALL GUNS in 3 seconds flat

    looney tunes, drink in more of that NRA/Russia kool-aid
    And here comes crazy...What does this have to do with NRA/Russia?  Aren’t you the anti-hunter from the other day?  Do you think that hunters and shotguns/hunting rifles should be legal?  Come on, be honest, you obviously have someone else on your side here.
    you don't want to know what I think

    I only have reasonable solutions that have been proven to work in other countries

    from what I've gathered, common logic isn't your strong suit
    Not that I don’t want to, I just really do not care what anti-hunters think.
    that's fine, I don't care what pro-stupid people think either
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