RIP Chris Cornell

dimitrispearljam · May 2017

man,,this is so fuckin sad.....all the best to his family..

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shecky · May 2017

rgambs said:

I really don't want to be disrespectful to Chris, his family, or his legacy, but I have had a nagging thought since the beginning of this terrible news.

Is it possible that it was an accident? I'm not explaining what I mean, some folks will get what I mean and some won't, but it just keeps circling the back of my mind and I haven't heard anyone else suggest it.
I don't judge what people do when they aren't hurting anyone else, so I don't see it as disrespectful, but I suppose some might.
It's just hard to wrap the mind around, scrambling for answer is a natural tendancy, but I guess it doesn't do a damn bit of good.

"Is it possible that it was an accident?"
Yes, that's been my belief all along.
It seems evident to me that Chris accidentally, and carelessly, took too many of his anti-anxiety pills.
Have you noticed on TV commercials for medications like this that, at the end of the ad when the announcer is hurriedly reading the possible side effects of the medication that, "thoughts of suicide" are mentioned?
To me, the worst part of this tragedy is that people are so sure that Chris committed suicide and he isn't able to defend himself.
I will always believe that his death was simply a horrible, horrible accident.

brianlux · May 2017

dimitrispearljam said:

this is a must read article https://thefirsttenwords.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/its-not-what-you-think/

Excellent article, thanks for posting it Dimitri. What he says about depression is right on. Good words to encourage getting help. I did and it's the only reason I'm still here. Others have done the same. Many of us can and have risen above depression. Like Henry Rollins says, "Hack or pack". Better to hack.

And all said with do respect for those who didn't make it. Could just have easily been me so I'm no one to criticize.

Brannigans law · May 2017

juanceraolo said:

Brannigans law said:

juanceraolo said:

facepollution said:

For me at the moment I'm finding it hard to reconcile the messages of strength in songs like Times Of Trouble with the reality of how he died. I'm worried my feelings towards his music will forever be altered.

Feeling the same way. It will be utterly impossible not to think "he is not here anymore" while listening to his voice. I hope one day we could separate things. This man was a ton of answers for me, now I am full of questions.

What have recently happened has nothing to do with what he has done at others moments in his life. In some way yes, but I feel, i don't know, he wasn't clean, he couldn't think properly. I mean, I have no idea, it's just too sad.

You are over complicating things. Whether he did this on his own omission or under the influence of perception drugs, does not change the person he was or the songs 's wrote at the time.

Sorry dude, may my english is not good enough, but is not that what I said? I mean, Im gonna try to keep enjoying and watching his whole movie instead of get stuck with last picture.

Anyway, I go with your words too. Thanks.

No worries, was my fault drank a bit to much last night, Sorry.

ringurla · May 2017

dimitrispearljam said:

this is a must read article https://thefirsttenwords.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/its-not-what-you-think/

Thanks for it. I know we all have our thoughts around it all the time and sharing what we think (with respect) with others here, it's a ground cable, a way to feel "better", if I could use that word. It's something we all do trying to find an answer, trying to reach to some peaceful place and its valid, its ok.
He does belong to a movement that has its own phantoms and darkness revolving around, and its easy to recall what happened to others in the past. But reading what his wife said, it makes me feel that this has more to do with an accidental thing, than the terribles stories we are used to. Before that, I was totally lost with 10 questions in my head. With pills stuff around, now I have 8. (metaphorically speaking)

Just in case, Im not trying to tell others what to think. I am all the time pondering it over, I change my mind each morning. But at the same time, paying attention to what his inner circle says, it may avoid us more suffering than we actually are struggling with.

Thanks for being on the other side of my monitor.

THEBIBLEISTEN · May 2017

Just got Singles reissue today on vinyl. Spinning it now.....Birth Ritual is just incredible. Chris, I never knew ya but thanks for the gifts.

hedonist · May 2017

juanceraolo said:

dimitrispearljam said:

this is a must read article https://thefirsttenwords.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/its-not-what-you-think/

Thanks for it. I know we all have our thoughts around it all the time and sharing what we think (with respect) with others here, it's a ground cable, a way to feel "better", if I could use that word. It's something we all do trying to find an answer, trying to reach to some peaceful place and its valid, its ok.
He does belong to a movement that has its own phantoms and darkness revolving around, and its easy to recall what happened to others in the past. But reading what his wife said, it makes me feel that this has more to do with an accidental thing, than the terribles stories we are used to. Before that, I was totally lost with 10 questions in my head. With pills stuff around, now I have 8. (metaphorically speaking)

Just in case, Im not trying to tell others what to think. I am all the time pondering it over, I change my mind each morning. But at the same time, paying attention to what his inner circle says, it may avoid us more suffering than we actually are struggling with.

Thanks for being on the other side of my monitor.

I think you said earlier that English isn't your first language? Allow me to say that your eloquence is appreciated. Beautiful words and sentiments in what is a tough time for many, in different ways.

Last part, perfection, and what I have felt so many times over my existence in this community.

morello · May 2017

"His music and voice will never be forgotten, and will never be replicated or replaced. He gave us all a gift, and for that, I am thankful. He will always be one of my favorite singers and songwriters, along with being a huge musical influence. Thank you for your gift, Chris Cornell. I pray that your family, friends, bandmates and fans may find some peace in the difficult days ahead."

Thank-you Matt & again thank-you everyone for writing out your pat of how you're processing this. RIP Chris & peace to family, friends, bandmates and fans from me too.

mfc2006 · May 2017

morello said:

"His music and voice will never be forgotten, and will never be replicated or replaced. He gave us all a gift, and for that, I am thankful. He will always be one of my favorite singers and songwriters, along with being a huge musical influence. Thank you for your gift, Chris Cornell. I pray that your family, friends, bandmates and fans may find some peace in the difficult days ahead."

Thank-you Matt & again thank-you everyone for writing out your pat of how you're processing this. RIP Chris & peace to family, friends, bandmates and fans from me too.

Big hugs to you, Jenny.

facepollution · May 2017

dimitrispearljam said:

man,,this is so fuckin sad.....all the best to his family..

Just heart breaking, what his family must be going through......

cp3iverson · May 2017

I never understood the outrage at the Scream album. With a voice like that it would be a crime NOT to experiment with other genres. I didnt go back to it a lot but i always thought it was so interesting and that he should keep experimenting.

One hell of a gift. Such a cool guy. When i cut my hair in the mid 90s i used his new hairdo for inspiration lol.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · May 2017

dimitrispearljam said:

this is a must read article https://thefirsttenwords.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/its-not-what-you-think/

Really good piece of writing. From this article;

We feel like shit because of mistakes we have made in life or because of the state of the world or because we aren’t perfect.

You might think grunge is about anger, but that’s not completely true. Yes, it can sound that way, but it’s really about depression and cynicism. Those two go hand-in-hand, along with their nasty little sister, anxiety. When the three of them get going, they just eat hope as quickly as it can be summoned. That leaves despair and despair is exhausting, not just for those who experience it, but for the people around it as well. So we keep it to ourselves because we don’t want to be a burden.

Spiritual_Chaos · May 2017

I still can't understand this

animus · May 2017

There's a void I didn't expect.

mwplum · May 2017

rgambs said:

I really don't want to be disrespectful to Chris, his family, or his legacy, but I have had a nagging thought since the beginning of this terrible news.

Is it possible that it was an accident? I'm not explaining what I mean, some folks will get what I mean and some won't, but it just keeps circling the back of my mind and I haven't heard anyone else suggest it.
I don't judge what people do when they aren't hurting anyone else, so I don't see it as disrespectful, but I suppose some might.
It's just hard to wrap the mind around, scrambling for answer is a natural tendancy, but I guess it doesn't do a damn bit of good.

This is what I've thought as well. I would never want to presume anything, but I just can't comprehend him taking his life intentionally. I've been fortunate to see him many times in the past few years with Soundgarden, Solo, ToTD, and Mad Season SE. In all of those shows he was so charismatic, full of life, and would (especially in his solo shows) express love about his wife and kids.

I know that we can never fully understand each other's inner demons. Unfortunately I have first hand experience with this as one of my best friends committed suicide when he was 15. He hung himself in his closet with a belt, and did not leave a letter. It's been 21 years since then, and I still think about him everyday. He was exceptionally outgoing, a total extrovert, hilarious, tall, good looking, had a great girlfriend, and by all outward actions seemed completely happy. I can't fathom what he was dealing with, or why he felt he needed to take such action, but have come to peace with the fact that I'll never know. I guess the point is that may people who are experiencing severe depression can get very good at putting on an "outside mask" to conceal their issues.

However, given the added dimension of family in this case; Chris's love and devotion to his wife and kids, I am having a hard time accepting that this was intentional. Based on the limited information we know about this horrible tragedy, it is my personal belief that what you are suggesting seems very plausible, especially if exacerbated by the medication.

I've been prescribed Ativan regularly for nearly 4 years now, and have experienced times where my balance, agility, and cognitive function has been impaired, not by excessive doses, but (I believe) because of taking it on an empty stomach or times when I've been excessively tired. I am not trying to speculate, but this could have been caused by a combination of the medication and the personal act you are alluding to (if he was on the phone with his wife, it could also explain why she knew so quickly to check on him). The combination of the act and the medication could have placed him in an accidental situation where he did not have the motor skills to escape under his own power.

Like you, I would never judge someone for engaging in personal acts that do not harm others, so I mean this with all respect. I just truly hope that over time, his family gets more answers, and eventually (after a long time), may be able to find peace.

withflyingcolors · May 2017

It's been four days and I'm still sitting here thinking this is a bad dream.

bootlegger10 · May 2017

It very sad to read about how so many in this thread (including myself) have known someone who has committed suicide. Hopefully some good will come out of this and people will be more open to talk about it and watch out for their friends and family.

brianlux · May 2017

bootlegger10 said:

It very sad to read about how so many in this thread (including myself) have known someone who has committed suicide. Hopefully some good will come out of this and people will be more open to talk about it and watch out for their friends and family.

I really is sad- not to be sensationalist, but it's almost epidemic. I've known four, three close friends, one I sort of knew. Painful.

Release EV · May 2017

withflyingcolors said:

It's been four days and I'm still sitting here thinking this is a bad dream.

Totally agree. I have felt this more than i ever thought i would. I long for the day i celebrate his music again instead of wallowing in it.

Squirrel Jam · May 2017

withflyingcolors said:

It's been four days and I'm still sitting here thinking this is a bad dream.

Me too. I have woken up every morning since then with an awful feeling as I remember he's gone. I just had another melt down just from reading about the tributes other musicians are doing. I know this sounds lame but I never realized how much I loved him until he walked out on stage during Mike's show with the Seattle Symphony recently. That was the first and only time I got to see him perform, and I will never forget it. When he sang "Call Me a Dog" it was so beautiful and sad I wept. That's when I remembered how much his voice--as much as Ed's and Mike's guitar--and his lyrics got me through some really rough times in my life. I couldn't get a ticket to see the Temple of the Dog reunion here in Seattle, but even though I was bummed I just assumed I would get a chance to see him again someday. I'm still in shock. I don't know what's worse, if it was an accident or if he was really suffering that much and no one knew. I keep thinking "if only his bodyguard had checked on him sooner...if only he could have been resuscitated..." And now I keep having panic attacks that something bad is going to happen to Ed. I've dealt with depression and anxiety my entire life and the thought that he could have been in that much pain and despair just breaks my heart. I still can't believe he's gone. My brain is having a really hard time processing this. I"m so grateful we have this community so at least I can come here for comfort. For what it's worth, I'd say I hope that he's not resting in peace but instead rocking the fuck out somewhere.

RIP Chris Cornell

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