RIP Chris Cornell

rgambs

tbergs said:

rgambs said:

tbergs said:

Not trying to be rude, but can people just stop with the speculative guessing about what happened, especially as it relates to the "misadventure" comments. Speculating it was an accident is one thing, but taking it beyond that is disrespectful and unnecessary. I don't get why anyone would bring up such things. It's gossip unless something comes out otherwise. Have some respect. We're all obviously at a loss and looking for an answer, but unless we ever get one, these speculations are no better than that random stranger writer who tried to point out there were all these signs Chris exhibited during the concert that night.
 

Not everyone shares your opinion.  It's that simple.

Thanks for reiterating my point, it's your opinion on his death. Leave it to your personal conversations. This thread is for mourning, remembering and celebrating the brilliant artist Chris was, not for people to bring their conspiracy theories and speculation around his death.

Some people like to discuss things.  That's all.  There's a lot to think about, digest, and discuss.  As long as it's done respectfully I don't see any reason to stifle honest, respectful discourse.  

THEBIBLEISTEN

Can we be respectful, who cares about money or bad timing, someone lost their life. What is wrong with you?

my2hands

3days said:

I don't have the experience or the knowledge of Ativan that some people have, and I'm not writing this to demonize it's usage. 

I took prescribed Ativan 3 times, over 1 week, about 10 years ago, to get through an important presentation. I took two small doses to see how it would affect me first, in the days leading up to the presentation. The day of, I took the fullest prescribed amount, 2 pills (can't remember the dosage). I felt confident based on the test runs earlier in the week.

The presentation went well, and I went home an hour afterward much relieved. Then things started to go bad. I began to feel increasingly rotten (mentally and physically). I felt cold all over, which makes sense. Lots of bad memories began to seep into my head; some were from childhood, and I hadn't thought about them in years. I was almost drunken drowsy, irrationally irritable and depressed. So, I went to bed (in the afternoon) angry, and with tears in my eyes.

I woke up 3 to 4 hours later foggy, but with a completely different attitude. I wasn't depressed, I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, and I was glad that the presentation was successful. I had dinner, and had a pleasant evening. 

Needless to say, I decided that Ativan wasn't right for me.I guess I'm writing this as a caution. Despite having a good night's sleep, and experimenting per Dr's instruction, I had a bad experience with it. Doesn't mean that everyone does, or that it isn't useful, but be please be careful.

Mind and mood altering drugs can be very powerful and dangerous... especially one's made in a lab

Spiritual_Chaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcB3htOLw4

dimitrispearljam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9L4EuSA31U

dimitrispearljam

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tbergs said:

Not trying to be rude, but can people just stop with the speculative guessing about what happened, especially as it relates to the "misadventure" comments. Speculating it was an accident is one thing, but taking it beyond that is disrespectful and unnecessary. I don't get why anyone would bring up such things. It's gossip unless something comes out otherwise. Have some respect. We're all obviously at a loss and looking for an answer, but unless we ever get one, these speculations are no better than that random stranger writer who tried to point out there were all these signs Chris exhibited during the concert that night.
 

I agree 100%.

23scidoo

https://youtu.be/x5tkbbeL4SU

HesCalledDyer

So I've had a few days to look back, listen to some tunes, and reflect on the unexpected passing of Chris Cornell.  I've never really been into Soundgarden as most of you are, the only album I had was Superunknown.  I couldn't name an Audioslave song if someone was waving a billion dollars in front of me.  And the only solo songs I know are Seasons (which is absolutely beautiful!) and Can't Change Me. I'm probably most familiar with Temple of the Dog, which is an absolutely stellar album.

So I have listened to Superunknown, Down on the Upside, A-Sides, TOTD, and the Mad Season/Seattle Symphony this weekend.  I found a really awesome video where he performed the lyrics of Metallica's One to the music of U2's One.  Amazing!  I've just been listening and kinda taking it all in, see where my mind goes.  One of the first thoughts I had took me back to when I first saw the video for Outshined.  "Looking California but feeling Minnesota."  That line always got me.  It's a fun little way of saying I feel like shit but at least I look good.  But then it got me thinking.  Looking California. Feeling Minnesota.  Sunny and warm on the outside, cold and dead on the inside.  Things on the inside aren't always what they seem on the surface, and it came full circle.  That must've been how Mr. Cornell was feeling Wednesday night, I thought.  He wrote this song 26 years ago.  Half his life ago.  And if he's been dealing with those inner demons all that time, I can't even imagine how he felt inside.

For some reason, his death feels different than Cobain's, Staley's, or Weiland's.  I didn't really know of Andy Wood until afterwards, but I imagine this still feels different.  I guess, maybe (and there's no way to say this without sounding insensitive) I was less surprised by the others given their public perception and patterns of behavior.  Chris Cornell feels more like Robin Williams.  Out of nowhere, unexpected, surprising, seemed to have a great life surrounded by great people.  Depression, anxiety.  They're motherfuckers.  Since Robin Williams, I've been trying to understand more about depression, anxiety, bipolar, schizophrenia, etc and be more compassionate to those who suffer from any of them.  Years ago I used to belong to the "what a selfish thing to do" camp but fortunately have since learned that is just plain wrong.

Anyway, just kinda rambling right now as I'm still not quite sure how to take this. If anything, at least it's opening me up to listen to more of his music. Which is all he ever wanted to give us!

RIP Chris Cornell.  Many hearts and thoughts to the Cornell family, friends, and the entire Seattle music family.  You've all suffered entirely too much through the years.

my2hands

HesCalledDyer said:

So I've had a few days to look back, listen to some tunes, and reflect on the unexpected passing of Chris Cornell.  I've never really been into Soundgarden as most of you are, the only album I had was Superunknown.  I couldn't name an Audioslave song if someone was waving a billion dollars in front of me.  And the only solo songs I know are Seasons (which is absolutely beautiful!) and Can't Change Me. I'm probably most familiar with Temple of the Dog, which is an absolutely stellar album.

So I have listened to Superunknown, Down on the Upside, A-Sides, TOTD, and the Mad Season/Seattle Symphony this weekend.  I found a really awesome video where he performed the lyrics of Metallica's One to the music of U2's One.  Amazing!  I've just been listening and kinda taking it all in, see where my mind goes.  One of the first thoughts I had took me back to when I first saw the video for Outshined.  "Looking California but feeling Minnesota."  That line always got me.  It's a fun little way of saying I feel like shit but at least I look good.  But then it got me thinking.  Looking California. Feeling Minnesota.  Sunny and warm on the outside, cold and dead on the inside.  Things on the inside aren't always what they seem on the surface, and it came full circle.  That must've been how Mr. Cornell was feeling Wednesday night, I thought.  He wrote this song 26 years ago.  Half his life ago.  And if he's been dealing with those inner demons all that time, I can't even imagine how he felt inside.

For some reason, his death feels different than Cobain's, Staley's, or Weiland's.  I didn't really know of Andy Wood until afterwards, but I imagine this still feels different.  I guess, maybe (and there's no way to say this without sounding insensitive) I was less surprised by the others given their public perception and patterns of behavior.  Chris Cornell feels more like Robin Williams.  Out of nowhere, unexpected, surprising, seemed to have a great life surrounded by great people.  Depression, anxiety.  They're motherfuckers.  Since Robin Williams, I've been trying to understand more about depression, anxiety, bipolar, schizophrenia, etc and be more compassionate to those who suffer from any of them.  Years ago I used to belong to the "what a selfish thing to do" camp but fortunately have since learned that is just plain wrong.

Anyway, just kinda rambling right now as I'm still not quite sure how to take this. If anything, at least it's opening me up to listen to more of his music. Which is all he ever wanted to give us!

RIP Chris Cornell.  Many hearts and thoughts to the Cornell family, friends, and the entire Seattle music family.  You've all suffered entirely too much through the years.

One of the best posts I've had the pleasure of reading, ever. 

Cliffy6745

dimitrispearljam said:

this is a must read article https://thefirsttenwords.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/its-not-what-you-think/

Shots fired at Eddie...

That said, this is good.

lotsalemon

All I can do is listen to his music. I just can't watch a performance without welling up with tears. 

I agree with HesCalledDyer - this seems so much different than Layne or Cobain.

The fact that to all of us, it seemed so unexpected and out of the blue.

Above all, my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends. And to all of us, his friends whom he never met. 

P34RL J4MM3R

I've been wrestling with this for the past few days.  It's just so sad and senseless.
Here's a guy with everything going for him and he couldn't make it, how do any of us have a chance?  It's hard to rationalize this or understand this no matter what your worldview is.  Here's a guy who's experienced the highest of highs - stuff I'll never experience.  Having thousands cheer you and your bands, being beloved by thousands - That stuff I'll never experience.  Chris had that and more.  So sad.  I don't mean to be negative, I'm just still really upset.  I hope someday we can hear of some good that came out of this.
Stay Strong out there.
Chris.

Bulldog88

P34RL J4MM3R said:

I've been wrestling with this for the past few days.  It's just so sad and senseless.
Here's a guy with everything going for him and he couldn't make it, how do any of us have a chance?  It's hard to rationalize this or understand this no matter what your worldview is.  Here's a guy who's experienced the highest of highs - stuff I'll never experience.  Having thousands cheer you and your bands, being beloved by thousands - That stuff I'll never experience.  Chris had that and more.  So sad.  I don't mean to be negative, I'm just still really upset.  I hope someday we can hear of some good that came out of this.
Stay Strong out there.
Chris.

Perhaps it's the person's outlook that dictates how much of a 'chance' they have? I know people who have much less than your average American (let alone your average rock star) that live totally fulfilled and happy lives. Just because almost all of us will never lead that sort of mega-fulfilled (in theory) lifestyle, does not mean we can't find happiness and get through our battles (both big and small). This is just a really, terribly sad outcome to a seemingly fulfilled life.

Stixum

A very moving post, eh.  I hope the coming days give you some peace.  It's been a tough week for so many.

I've read every single post in this thread so far and I can't remember the last time I ever saw more love and pain all bundled up together in one place before.  That  says quite a lot right there. 

+1
I've spent a lot of time on here lately; I'm thankful for this community, both in good times and bad.

Tristelune

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XjLyj0uXEUQ

tbergs

Tristelune said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XjLyj0uXEUQ

That's a great video. Love the casual feel and effortless performance.

asgoodased

Haven't posted here in many years, but got back on cause I felt like I needed to be a part of it. Really appreciate everyone's posts here. Helps to see others with the same feelings. I posted my thoughts and memories here, not that there's much meaning to any of it. I hope this thread continues. I just don't want people to forget him and all the incredible things he made.

slightofjeff

P34RL J4MM3R said:

I've been wrestling with this for the past few days.  It's just so sad and senseless.
Here's a guy with everything going for him and he couldn't make it, how do any of us have a chance?  It's hard to rationalize this or understand this no matter what your worldview is.  Here's a guy who's experienced the highest of highs - stuff I'll never experience.  Having thousands cheer you and your bands, being beloved by thousands - That stuff I'll never experience.  Chris had that and more.  So sad.  I don't mean to be negative, I'm just still really upset.  I hope someday we can hear of some good that came out of this.
Stay Strong out there.
Chris.

It's not about "having everything going for you." It's about being sick in the head. Mental illness is no joke.

dimitrispearljam

On a cobweb afternoon
In a room full of emptiness
By a freeway I confess
I was lost in the pages
Of a book full of death
Reading how we'll die alone
And if we're good, we'll lay to rest
Anywhere we want to go

In your house I long to be
Room by room patiently
I'll wait for you there
Like a stone
I'll wait for you there
Alone

On my deathbed I will pray
To the gods and the angels
Like a pagan to anyone
Who will take me to heaven
To a place I recall
I was there so long ago
The sky was bruised
The wine was bled
And there you led me on

In your house I long to be
Room by room patiently
I'll wait for you there
Like a stone
I'll wait for you there
Alone

Alone

And on I read
Until the day was gone
And I sat in regret
Of all the things I've done
For all that I've blessed
And all that I've wronged
In dreams until my death
I will wander on

In your house I long to be
Room by room patiently
I'll wait for you there
Like a stone
I'll wait for you there
Alone

Alone

HughFreakingDillon

P34RL J4MM3R said:

I've been wrestling with this for the past few days.  It's just so sad and senseless.
Here's a guy with everything going for him and he couldn't make it, how do any of us have a chance?  It's hard to rationalize this or understand this no matter what your worldview is.  Here's a guy who's experienced the highest of highs - stuff I'll never experience.  Having thousands cheer you and your bands, being beloved by thousands - That stuff I'll never experience.  Chris had that and more.  So sad.  I don't mean to be negative, I'm just still really upset.  I hope someday we can hear of some good that came out of this.
Stay Strong out there.
Chris.

none of that means anything. it's all what's inside. memories of your highs aren't enough to get you through your lows. only faith in your future highs can do that. many of us lose that faith along the way, but hopefully we can persevere enough through it until we suddenly realize the valley is behind us.......